Template talk:County councils of England

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Former councils

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I just wondered if we could consider putting some of the former councils into this template? I'm thinking Greater Manchester County Council, London County Council, Humberside, Avon? --Jza84 |  Talk  14:36, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-22T14:36:00.000Z","author":"Jza84","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jza84-2008-08-22T14:36:00.000Z-Former_councils","replies":["c-Jza84-2008-08-22T23:18:00.000Z-Jza84-2008-08-22T14:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

I oppose this. The list is simply too long to make it complete within the same template (six metropolitan counties; Avon, Berkshire, Cleveland, Herefordshire, Humberside, Rutland; London, Middlesex; Cumberland, Ely, Huntingdonshire, Peterborough, Westmorland; three ridings of Yorkshire, three parts of Lincolnshire, two divisions of Suffolk; any more?). There are also mergers and demergers that would make such a template unfathomable (e.g. both Hereford and Hereford and Worcester are ex-councils!). You could, I suggest, create a new template incorporating only those that are extinct, ordered either by when they were abolished or when they were created (respectively in the groupings given above, 1974, 1996, 1889, 1889, 1889). This would avoid the conflation of the extinct and the extant. Bastin 15:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Seems like a reasonable way forwards yes, like a "Former England county councils" template? I wasn't thinking of putting the former councils in with the current ones as such, such in a seperate section below the modern units. I won't lose any sleep over it, I just thought this might aid navigation for our readers. --Jza84 |  Talk  23:18, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-22T23:18:00.000Z","author":"Jza84","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jza84-2008-08-22T23:18:00.000Z-Jza84-2008-08-22T14:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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What makes a county council?

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There are 27 county councils left (i.e. two-tier top level authorities). Some unitary authorities add "county" to their name, but it is misleading to include them here. MRSC (talk) 06:46, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-13T06:46:00.000Z","author":"MRSC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MRSC-2009-09-13T06:46:00.000Z-What_makes_a_county_council?","replies":[]}}-->