Template talk:JGA GOTY

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Use of color in the template

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May I ask why we need to use color here? There is no relevancy to the JGA organization that would give a valid reason for using it, like a sports franchise or something. Pinging @Izno: who normally deals with navbox policies for his opinion. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 22:47, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-29T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Dissident93","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dissident93-2017-09-29T22:47:00.000Z-Use_of_color_in_the_template","replies":["c-InflatableSupertrooper-2017-09-29T23:30:00.000Z-Dissident93-2017-09-29T22:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

WP:IDL is not a valid reason. Why wouldn't we use color here? There are literally thousands of Wikipedia templates using color, most of them not related to sports. Section 4 of MOS:NAVBOXCOLOR says default should be used if no identifiable color exists, but per subject logo and subject website the color is consistently used by the organisation is yellow/gold (and also red as secondary). InflatableSupertrooper (talk) 23:30, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-29T23:30:00.000Z","author":"InflatableSupertrooper","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-InflatableSupertrooper-2017-09-29T23:30:00.000Z-Dissident93-2017-09-29T22:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Izno-2017-09-30T14:00:00.000Z-InflatableSupertrooper-2017-09-29T23:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
"ILIKEIT" is also not a reason. Moving from the default needs something stronger than "why wouldn't we?" Inverting "default should be used if no identifiable color exists" to "non-default should be used if an identifiable color exists" is a common logical fallacy; we are not required to do anything if the guideline is silent on an option. The awards, much less the organization itself, are not one which is strongly identified by its color as one might have with a sports team (whom are literally only identifiable on a field due to the difference in jersey color)--and this is true of most awards. That we have color on sports team navboxes causes the rainbow effect on sports team articles because of colors not relevant in general or because a player has moved teams multiple times or any of a large variety of other reasons. Basically, you should have a really good reason, and you don't seem to have one. --Izno (talk) 14:00, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-30T14:00:00.000Z","author":"Izno","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Izno-2017-09-30T14:00:00.000Z-InflatableSupertrooper-2017-09-29T23:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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