Hey there! I initially chose to just predict whatever the writers are implying, but felt like asking is the best way of knowing.
Would appreciate answers. Not that I won't be watching this, so you gotta ping me. Thanks, GeraldWL 13:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is my first time in the cup. As a new participant, I want to provide feedback regarding this system. I feel like this bonus system is unfair. It requires minimum of 5 Wikipedias on which the article has appeared. Now, someone one who contributes to movies, TV shows, or anything related to Westen world etc has an advantage, because these things are more popular. And someone who contributes to like Indian articles (like me) is unable to taste the bonus. Minimum 5 GA, FA, DYK in other Wikipedias are very distant things, articles in other Wikipedias don't even exist. So, there's no scope of bonus.
I have a suggestion. Instead of having a bonus point system like this, we can do this thing: Some percentage of points from the previous round will be added to the next round. Like someone has 1000+ points in Round 1. He/she will get 25% of that in the next.
The point system will have slabs like this. Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe 20:05, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can I get the DYK points for an article that I created and improved to GA? Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe 08:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Although Amakuru was kind enough to include me in this ITN nom, I don't think my contributions to the Courtenay Bartholomew article are substantial enough to claim credit, but I was curious whether it met the barest minimum standard. Guettarda (talk) 18:14, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any existing published guideline or precedent (e.g. authorship percentage) used in assessing whether a nominator has done enough work on a GA-nominated article to satisfy the condition that "All reviewed content must have been worked on significantly by you to receive points", or is it left to the judges' discretion on a case-by-case basis? I'm planning to work at some point on Atul Gawande, which was nominated for GA last year and which I reviewed at the time. I don't foresee me having a particularly large authorship percentage on it to get it to what I think would be close to GA standard. (Maybe 15% as a ballpark estimate.) That leads to a second question, which is: is there any time or other restriction on nominating an article which one has previously reviewed? Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it's just the way I do things, but I've noticed that a typical FA review from me is large (like Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/John McGraw/archive1, at 21,260 bytes) while I see a GA review of my own nomination weighing in at 855 bytes ( Talk:2003 Football League Third Division play-off Final/GA1). Both reviews are scored as 5 points in the current regime. I'm not sure these reviews should be given an equivalent amount of points. I'm not suggesting it should change this year of course, but it's certainly something that I think needs reflection before next year's WikiCup. Perhaps like the current GAN drive, some consideration needs to be given to the volume of text being reviewed at the very least, or somehow a quantitative measure of the effort being expended. I'm not suggesting that the GAN review was less onerous or complete than the FAC review, but one was around 25 times lengthier than the other yet both attracted 5 points. And certainly, from my point of view, FLC reviews are somewhere in between FA reviews and GA reviews... Interested to hear the opinions of others. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:49, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I claimed this as a DYK because I expanded it fivefold to about 29 kb of readable prose size (it was approved as a GA before running on the main page, but I believe this is fine since I expanded it 5x for DYK before the GA promotion). For some reason, I did not get 5 bonus points when I put it in my submissions page, which I would've normally gotten for an article above 5 kb of prose. I'm not sure what happened there, because I got the two other bonuses, for interwikis and for the article having existed for about 14 years. Epicgenius (talk) 19:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So, on 29 August (the last day of the penultimate round) I had an FA promoted worth 280 points. Those points were mandated to go into the penultimate round of scoring. Within the next two days, another finalist had two FAs promoted in "no-mans land", worth 800 points, which count to the final score. The cut-off for when points can be claimed seems like it needs some discussion because this is very disappointing indeed. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I claimed 108 Leonard as a GA during the first round of the Cup. Recently, it was brought to my attention that the editor who reviewed this GA is a sockpuppet of a blocked user, and the original review page for that article was deleted. As a result, the article's GA status has been invalidated, and it is still sitting at GAN.
I have two questions. First, would my score for Round 1 have to be decreased by 35 points, since the review was not valid in the first place? Second, can I claim this as a GA again once a legitimate review of this article is conducted? – Epicgenius (talk) 14:06, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ITN articles in recent deaths are worth 12 points... ok. I am not sure what subject to the normal requirement for substantial work on the article means, but some of the listed did not require major updates to merit the points. To me this 12 points seem easy points to get, compared to a GA, DYK or a FA review where there is really quite some time and energy involved in achieving them.
Maybe to expand and source an article to a certain point for ITN will get more points than just to nominate? And maybe also the expansion of an article at RD that exists in multiple other wikis will also get more points. Silvio Berlusconi for example could have needed some help at the time of his death, so could Luis Suarez, a Balon d'Or winner and Arnaldo Forlani a former italian prime minister now as well. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 01:44, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have you ever tried bonus points for WP:VAs?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:21, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cwmhiraeth and Frostly: Is it okay for people to "hold over" already-open GA reviews (either as nominator or as reviewer) for the WikiCup? I'm referring to cases where contestants deliberately won't address an open GAN that they nominated, or they won't complete a GA review that they started, for several weeks to save up points for the WikiCup. As seen here, one user has already expressed a concern that this could be considered gaming the rules to gain an advantage in the Cup.
DYK, ITN, FAC/FACR, and FLC all either have deadlines or expire after a certain time, so it's unlikely that this sort of situation would apply to either of these processes. I wanted to bring this up because GAN/GAR do not have deadlines or expiry dates, only a recommendation that a review be completed in several days. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:VA is a project whose primary focus is to assess and prioritize those subjects that are most vital in terms of worthiness for editorial attention. WP:CUP is the most important project on WP in terms of promoting editorial efforts. There may be controversy regarding the exact contents of the list and whether it correctly enumerates the subjects most worthy of editorial attention, but it is directionally correct on the most worthy subjects and getting better all the time. I think the problem with past proposals is that there have been attempts to seek too high of a Vital article premium. What if we simply introduced a 10%/20%/30%/40%/50% multiplier for VA5/VA4/VA3/VA2/VA1 content. At WT:VA5, we have been kicking around ways to actually begin motivating editorial improvement rather than just list what should be improved. User:Piotrus actually mentioned this more modest premium very recently (01:36, 25 January 2024) and User:The Blue Rider was the person who opened the discussion. Both are entered in this years CUP. I also argue that since this proposal is being made before the January 31 cutoff for the contest that it be considered for the 2024 contest.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:59, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How do Good article reassments count? Do they count like Good Article reviews?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do FLC reviews count for points? The main WikiCup page does not list them and the submissions pages have nowhere to submit them, but this scoring page still says they are eligible. No worries either way. – Teratix ₵ 11:35, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I nominate an article at ITN that does need editing, would I get point? What if it needed editing and I was only involved as the nominator?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see that the points for FACR, FLCR, PR and GANR are 5 points each, which seems kind of low for some of the reviews- as bigger or more technical articles are usually harder to review. In addition, they do not get any bonus point on any basis, so easier articles are more incentivised- which means the backlog in reviewing bigger articles increases. So, perhaps we can add a way for some reviews to get more points- maybe by number of words in the review or the article, or those more vital- by number of interwikis or something like that. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:42, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am just being picky, but I don't think there are situations where this would apply any more "An exception exists for content promoted or reviews completed after the end of a round, but before the start of the next. In these cases, round points may be awarded for the following round, though submissions' pages should not be updated until the start of that round." Gog the Mild (talk) 13:48, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One of my nominated articles recently got promoted to an FL but the thing is, it was made an FL on the 27th but the promotion was on the 26th. Which date would this be eligible for? Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1936 Winter Olympics medal table/archive1 Arconning (talk) 12:07, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A fiddling issue, but in WP:WC/SCO under "From DYK age" it says "For example, a DYK for an article started in 2015 will receive 10 bonus round points for age." I submitted "Truce of Malestroit" earlier today; it was started on 14 August 2015, yet I got "9 bonus points" - see my Submissions page. While I can't imagine anyone cares about a single point, I assume that one of these is wrong - probably the example(?) Maybe a coordinator wants to have a look at it? Cheers. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:55, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]