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November was rich in sadness and happiness for me, expressed in music. There are two composers on the Main page today, Siegfried Thiele and Aaron Copland. I find the response of my friend Jerome Kohl to a question on Copland's article talk promising. What do you think? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241202084800","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241202084800-December_music","replies":[]}}-->

On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208211600","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241208211600-December_music","replies":[]}}-->

Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher. - Congratulations to being elected! Could you look at Samuel Barber and tell me if you miss something in his infobox? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241212104200","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241212104200-December_music","replies":[]}}-->

Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241216171900","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241216171900-December_music","replies":[]}}-->

I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241218204600","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241218204600-December_music","replies":[]}}-->

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Congrats on getting back on the committee - I really mean that. The overall results will come as a relief for many but WP has its first non-admin arb and at least one or two with very little admin experience. There will be a lot of talk about this result. It proves again that with so few contenders it's relatively easy to get a seat - all but 2 got a pass mark. IMO it's time to either redesign the electoral system or chuck the whole Arbcom thing out and replace it with something else. There is a better gender balance this time, but it remains to be seen which of them will be around when they are needed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209000400","author":"Kudpung","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kudpung-20241209000400-ACE2024","replies":["c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241209001200-Kudpung-20241209000400","c-AndreJustAndre-20241209002300-Kudpung-20241209000400","c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241209023400-Kudpung-20241209000400"],"displayName":"Kudpung \u0e01\u0e38\u0e14\u0e1c\u0e36\u0e49\u0e07"}}-->

I'm mildly bummed I did so bad but not terribly surprised. The nature of the private case against me is undeniably is the reason. On the other hand, you've got a really great group coming in with you, I'm feeling way better about the immediate future of this committee, which, despite what some people apparently think, was the only reason I ran to begin with. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 00:12, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209001200","author":"Just Step Sideways","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241209001200-Kudpung-20241209000400","replies":[]}}-->
  • Congratulations on your return to Arbcom! Andre🚐 00:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209002300","author":"AndreJustAndre","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AndreJustAndre-20241209002300-Kudpung-20241209000400","replies":[],"displayName":"Andre"}}-->
  • Congrats.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 02:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209023400","author":"Pharaoh of the Wizards","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241209023400-Kudpung-20241209000400","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you all for the kind words. @Kudpung - I'm a bit confused as to why you think Daniel is the first non-admin arb? He can literally pick up the tools at any time - i.e. in the same position I was when I ran in 2017. I picked them up after I was elected. @Just Step Sideways It was a strong field this year, and I think that's why you missed out. You've certainly got enough support there. WormTT(talk) 09:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209093200","author":"Worm That Turned","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Worm_That_Turned-20241209093200-ACE2024","replies":["c-Worm_That_Turned-20241209105900-Worm_That_Turned-20241209093200"],"displayName":"Worm"}}-->

It's really a minor point. I didn't do a lot of research, I didn't do a voter guide, I didn't do a voting analysis this time either, and I didn't vote. So I guessed I missed that detail. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk)

10:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

@Kudpung Heh, well, it's a bugbear of mine that the community won't elect non-admin arbs. Xeno in 2021 and I in 2017 matched that criteria, but it's never moved the needle for actual non-admins. As to your other points, I think some major reform is needed soon, electorial process or arbcom itself, I think I'm so ingrained that I won't be good at leading the change, but I do hope to help it through. As for the gender balance, I'm really happy to see that needle move. WormTT(talk) 10:59, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209105900","author":"Worm That Turned","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Worm_That_Turned-20241209105900-Worm_That_Turned-20241209093200","replies":["c-Kudpung-20241210110500-Worm_That_Turned-20241209105900"],"displayName":"Worm"}}-->
I think the main problem is that while many first time postulants run for office on a platform of wanting change, they never get round to it and were ill prepared for the routine workload that awaits them. It's not like adminship where the work is transparent and every genuine candidate has, or should already have a good idea what the work entails before they take the plunge. Besides which like most advanced rights holders, admins are under no compulsion to do anything at all if they don't want to - and some don't. Suggestions have been floated tt let the clerks handle the emails, but where that makes up the bulk of the work it would require a very high degree of trust to be established. Over the years there has been a vast amount of discussion about adminship, but due to the small number of members of the Committee and requiring re-election after 2 years there is probably not sufficient motivation for change. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210110500","author":"Kudpung","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kudpung-20241210110500-Worm_That_Turned-20241209105900","replies":[],"displayName":"Kudpung \u0e01\u0e38\u0e14\u0e1c\u0e36\u0e49\u0e07"}}-->
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2025 Arbitration Committee

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The Arbitration Committee welcomes the following new and returning members following their election by the community. Their two-year terms formally begin on 1 January 2025:

The one-year terms of these members also begin on 1 January 2025:

Upon meeting the Wikimedia Foundation's criteria for access to non-public personal data and signing its corresponding confidentiality agreement, all incoming members will be subscribed to all Committee-managed email lists, assigned the CheckUser and Oversight permissions for use in office, and given access to the CheckUser and Oversight queues on the VRT system.

We also thank our outgoing colleagues, whose terms end on 31 December 2024:

Outgoing members are eligible to retain the CheckUser and Oversight permissions, to remain active on cases accepted before their term ended, and to remain subscribed to the functionaries' and arbitration clerks' mailing lists following their terms on the Arbitration Committee. To that effect:

  • Stewards are requested to remove the permission(s) noted from the following outgoing members, who have not chosen to retain them, after 31 December 2024:
    CheckUser: Firefly, L235
    Oversight: Firefly, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees
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