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Women in Red August 2024

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This week's article for improvement (week 27, 2024)

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Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Mechanism (engineering)

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The Signpost: 4 July 2024

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024

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This week's article for improvement (week 28, 2024)

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Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Applied science

Please be bold and help improve it!


Previous selections: Mechanism (engineering) • Breaking wave


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DYK for Esther Tailfeathers

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On 7 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Esther Tailfeathers, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the "mythical love story" of Sami politician Bjarne Store-Jakobsen and Blackfoot physician Esther Tailfeathers is a focus of the 2014 film Bihttoš? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Esther Tailfeathers. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Esther Tailfeathers), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hook update
Your hook reached 14,405 views (600.2 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of July 2024 – nice work!

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Tech News: 2024-28

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Coffee cake

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I am unhappy with your edits on Coffee cake, for two reasons

  1. the creation of a large number of links to disambiguation pages. At least 430 links, by the templates Template:Cakes and Template:Jewish cuisine. I hope you can fix that.
  2. there are far more types of coffee cakes than the two listed in the dab. I make my coffee cakes with coffee in the batter and in the buttercream in between the layers and on top. No nuts whatsoever. But I feel uncomfortable adding it. Would it be a good idea to create an overview of the common variations of coffee cakes, like List of coffee cakes?

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Hey, @The Banner. I'm sorry, where did I create links to 430 dabs? My apologies, my tech skills are not the best.
No objection to adding other types of items called "coffee cake" to the dab. Those were the three we could find. If there are other notable coffee-flavored cakes, by all means we should add them to that dab. I didn't find any. I think it's possible 'coffee-flavored cake' isn't actually a notable subject, at least per my research, which is unfortunately very much English-based.
List of coffee cakes is a little tricky, IMO. Are we talking list of Coffee cake (American) or list of Coffee-flavored cake? Because these are two profoundly different items. One is a cake flavored with coffee. One is a sweet bread served with coffee. Other than their name, they haven't got much in common. I definitely don't think we should be going through recipe sites and listing every recipe for a coffee-flavored cake we can find. We need to includ notable coffee-flavored cakes. Valereee (talk) 20:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240709200000","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20240709200000-The_Banner-20240709192600","replies":["c-Valereee-20240709200300-Valereee-20240709200000"]}}-->
I think I figured out what you were talking about for dabs, and fixed. Valereee (talk) 20:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240709200300","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Valereee-20240709200300-Valereee-20240709200000","replies":["c-The_Banner-20240709201100-Valereee-20240709200300"]}}-->
You created the links by changing "coffee cake" in the dab-page. The two mentioned templates are linking to this newly created dab-page. I have no idea what is the correct link. I think this edit hampered proceedings a bit.
List of coffee-flavoured cake might be the better option. Better then my first suggestion at least. The Banner talk 20:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240709201100","author":"The Banner","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Banner-20240709201100-Valereee-20240709200300","replies":["c-Valereee-20240709202200-The_Banner-20240709201100"],"displayName":"The\u00a0Banner"}}-->
Honestly, neither Tiramisu nor Coffee and walnut cake even mention "coffee cake" or "coffeecake". I'm not sure why this has even become an issue. It seems like a EngVar problem. There's an American sweet bread that is called a coffee cake, which is a notable subject. In other variations of English, the term is understood to mean something else: a cake flavored with coffee. That something else does not seem to be a standalone notable subject. Valereee (talk) 20:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240709202200","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Valereee-20240709202200-The_Banner-20240709201100","replies":[]}}-->
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The only edit I've made to that page in over a year is to remove the orphan tag, because I de-orphaned it. Not sure what you're objecting to here, @UKWikiGuy. Valereee (talk) 14:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240712144200","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20240712144200-UKWikiGuy-20240712143500","replies":[]}}-->
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Ambush of Polish partisans against Russian forces during the January Uprising, 1863
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Ambush

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indexing

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the thread closed. Did what I already said in it answer your question? I will be very happy to give you a dispassionate explanation of "what is Google indexing" if you would like one. They are using well-known techniques for controlling what Google can and cannot access. When people say things like "once it is on the internet it is there forever", usually this is in reference to social media posts that have gone viral, but I understand why the distinction might not be clear to a non-technical user. Elinruby (talk) 06:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240715064100","author":"Elinruby","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Elinruby-20240715064100-indexing","replies":["c-Valereee-20240715120300-Elinruby-20240715064100","c-Elinruby-20240715160100-Elinruby-20240715064100"]}}-->

I didn't actually ask a question, I don't think? You'd said I didn't understand how google indexing works, and I agreed -- did you think I was asking for an explanation of google indexing? I wasn't. I hadn't even brought search engines up; literally the only mention of google I made was to quote you when you named the private forum. I certainly never said "what is Google indexing" -- yes, I know what it is, but I don't care how it works -- nor did I say "once it is on the internet it is there forever". (Nor do I believe that; I've had enough experience trying to access sources that never got archived by Wayback to know it's not true.) At any rate, my concern has nothing to do with that discussion being findable via search engine.
My concern is exactly what I said: the discussion of a colleague, referring to them as an imbecile, starts out in a public space. Eventually moving it private doesn't mitigate the harm and may actually make it worse by calling attention to this private area where colleagues 'too embarrassing to discuss in public' can be talked about slightly more privately. I would not be shocked to learn that there were people creating accounts over the past few days so they could check that forum out. People love that shit. As long as it's not about them. Valereee (talk) 12:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240715120300","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20240715120300-Elinruby-20240715064100","replies":[]}}-->
Sorry hard-wired help desk response I guess then. Just following up. Certainly not trying to push a technical explanation down your throat <g> As for your surmise, I have not particularly noticed that, although we were up to 75 unregistered guests last night at one point, which is quite a bit higher than usual. I do see your concern, but the problem is not as I see it in the fleeting existence visibility of a post saying yeah I think we should move the thread. And since we are managing to speak like adults here, let me ask you to consider being accused of harassing someone when you have done nothing of the kind, and having the admonition be immortalized with an admonition not to call any names, when you haven't done that either. And that *is* on the internet forever, and I guarantee that it will be brought up the next time someone says my citation needed was a personal attack. Anyway, just saying. Nice talking to you, and have a nice day. Elinruby (talk) 16:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240715160100","author":"Elinruby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Elinruby-20240715160100-Elinruby-20240715064100","replies":["c-Valereee-20240715182900-Elinruby-20240715160100"]}}-->
Hey, @Elinruby, I certainly didn't intend to accuse you of harassment or calling names, and I apologize that it felt that way. I have no knowledge of you doing either, so if that's what my posts felt like, I'm very sorry. It wasn't what I intended. Valereee (talk) 18:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240715182900","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Valereee-20240715182900-Elinruby-20240715160100","replies":["c-Elinruby-20240715204300-Valereee-20240715182900"]}}-->
That was the basic theory. That having been in the thread at all, even saying something as innocuous in itself as "Aha. That's why", constituted harassment because BADSITES BADSITES BADSITES. The thread was closed as "let's all stop the namecalling", which I protested, but given that the mob had its pitchforks out, perhaps there was truth to the theory that it was better for the project if it all just stopped, and possibly also even for me. Watch, though. As soon as I get back to source verification about the genocide at Canadian residential schools, however, I will be mean for pointing out that a certain source is not reliable, and that thread absolutely will come up. The one Star Mississippi closed as "nothing to do here" still does after all, even if the "incivility" was giving someone a contentious topics alert. Again, just saying. This post does not require a reply or any action on your part. Thank you for reading it. Elinruby (talk) 20:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240715204300","author":"Elinruby","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Elinruby-20240715204300-Valereee-20240715182900","replies":[]}}-->
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Could you please explain why you have closed my discussion? Unilateral actions with no justification seem to be a pattern of behaviour within wikipedia SnarkyDragon (talk) 22:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240717221600","author":"SnarkyDragon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SnarkyDragon-20240717221600-Closed_discussion","replies":["c-Valereee-20240717235200-SnarkyDragon-20240717221600"]}}-->

@SnarkyDragon, the same basic discussion was taking place in two sections. That tends to be less effective for all involved. Valereee (talk) 23:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240717235200","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20240717235200-SnarkyDragon-20240717221600","replies":["c-SnarkyDragon-20240717235800-Valereee-20240717235200"]}}-->
Okay thank you SnarkyDragon (talk) 23:58, 17 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240717235800","author":"SnarkyDragon","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-SnarkyDragon-20240717235800-Valereee-20240717235200","replies":[]}}-->
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oh, good tool! Thanks! Valereee (talk) 11:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240719111500","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20240719111500-Polygnotus-20240719110800","replies":[]}}-->
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Cape of Good Hope (left) and Cape Hangklip (right) in South Africa
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Cape (geography)

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Hi,

I noticed your intervention in 2021 on the Talk page of a user who was later blocked, opened another account, was blocked again, and is now using a series of IP addresses to continue his project. I've managed to open a discussion at User talk:86.147.210.198, but I'm really not sure how best to proceed. Do you have any insights?

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 25

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DYK for Tomato sandwich

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On 2 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tomato sandwich, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that many enthusiasts say that a good tomato sandwich is so messy, it should be eaten over the kitchen sink? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tomato sandwich. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Tomato sandwich), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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