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(template link) (revert point)
The effect of a Wiki article linking to itself is bold-facing, I updated the (2) self-links to Craig, Alaska instead.
I see you are a "destructive" rather than "constructive" Wiki?
If you took the time to go to the official City of Craig, Alaska website, (which was a link you deleted) most of the article contents you deleted (like their mayor, etc.) come directly from their official web site. Some others items (transportation/utilities) come from the other Wiki Prince of Wales island and South-East Alaska airports articles.
It is my understanding that if you have an issue with an article or any specific contents, that you are supposed to "flag" or "tag" specific items appropriately, rather than mass deletes?
What is your "point" or intent? LeheckaG (talk) 15:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
* CHAPTER 1--ADMINISTRATION * CHAPTER 3--COLLECTION AND PUBLICATION OF STATISTICS * CHAPTER 5--CENSUSES * CHAPTER 7--OFFENSES AND PENALTIES * CHAPTER 9--COLLECTION AND PUBLICATION OF FOREIGN COMMERCE AND TRADE STATISTICS * CHAPTER 10--EXCHANGE OF CENSUS INFORMATION
LeheckaG (talk) 08:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Goodness what a mess. Looks like a POV fork to me. I agree that it makes no sense to have two articles on the place and would suggest either asking for a Third Opinion or opening an RFC. My strong hunch is that either process would agree that there should be one article, the CDP. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
As you continue creating NJ community articles, you might find this page useful: a list of all redlinked New Jersey communities with ZIP Codes. Nyttend (talk) 11:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
In removing several links to fizber.com, I came across and deleted several similar-looking links to zipinfo.com, only to find there were quite a few of them. I don't get their notability in being added to so many articles...is the website from the USPS or some other government website? Thanks. Flowanda | Talk 08:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
In my view, if a page is primarily relying on a Census abstraction,
which is what the Census Bureau officially calls it (from FactFinder.Census.Gov, search "Burlington" and "Ohio").
If or when such a Census abstraction article mentions a particular place, like town of "Burlington",
Similarly, I have do NOT have any issue with any article citing Census data, or
I understand that "Towns" (Populated Places) are an extremely fuzzy area.
Every statement needs to be clear which it refers to: Census or historical/local "government/organization".
The issue I see is that it is "easy" to cut and paste Census statistics,
But it is flat out "wrong" to go the other way around:
LeheckaG (talk) 15:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
LeheckaG (talk) 18:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Nyttend, I just left a note on the talk page of a our new mutual friend. All of Jm0371's image uploads are listed here and the maps in question are of counties in West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. They remind me of maps I have seen before and the odd mottled dark red shade looks like a glitch with MS Paint, but I can't find them online. I think they may be maps colored by hand. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Nyttend/ZIP/NJ is an excellent list, are you from New Jersey? We used to have a Ukrainian Festival here each year, and last year it stopped. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Nyttend, as I was reading your note I thought of the Cowanesque River as soon as I read "Conesque". I looked at some maps and think it makes the most sense. It is in the Susquehanna River watershed, although it is in the Chemung River subbasin and is not a direct tributary of the Susquehanna. The other thing is that back then the names were spelled many different ways, so creek and river were often interchanged and the "official" spelling might be quite odd back then too. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I've undone your edit here per WP:LEDE and MOS:BOLD: If the article topic does not have a commonly accepted name, but is merely descriptive, the title does not need to appear in the first sentence, and is not bolded if it does. Also per Wikipedia:Stop bolding everything (an essay). Everyme (was Dorftrottel) (talk) 05:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to say thanks for reverting the Wagoner County, Oklahoma template back to the earlier version that included the multiple county footnote. --Acntx (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Depends on what data the Census Bureau has:
There are a handful of (13?) Nation Regional Corporations, and a "Native Village Corporation" for each Native Village which filed under the federal ANCSA.
Alexander is another variety of incorporated Community/Settlement in Alaska.
In South-Eastern, Alaska it is a little less of an issue,
I saw a bunch of updates and have not gone through them, this was the first "glaring" thing I noticed.
Thank You, for deleting and redirecting Dinglishna Hills ... to Dinglishna Hills, Alaska. I tried to delete and redirect it before and someone else had put it back.
Dinglishna Hills is another (common?) example where Alaska Department of Natural Resources did in fact legally incorporate them in the form of a "Homeowner's Association", when it was surveyed, platted, and recorded with the Anchorage Recorder. Details are on file with Department of Natural Resources - Anchorage Recorder's office.
For Alaska, their are two Recorder's with jurisdiction:
(they also use other Government agencies depending on the Statute under which land transactions occur)
(which makes things a lot more organized and relatively simpler than other U.S. jurisdictions) LeheckaG (talk) 21:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
South-East Alaska is composed of many islands, and there are more miles of shoreline than roads.
"Water", the Inside Passage is the major road, so Nautical Charts and directions by water (or floatplane), are more important than Census data.
Please restore any nautical information and external links you deleted.
(From a South-East Alaskan, Former North-East Ohioan) LeheckaG (talk) 22:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
spread across about 300 miles.
Alaska between all the islands in the Aleutians (Alaska Peninsula) and Alexander Archipelago a.k.a. "Panhandle" has over 34,000 miles of shoreline and very few roads.
We take our aeronautical and nautical information seriously, so please do NOT delete it or links to it and restore what you deleted. LeheckaG (talk) 22:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
May I ask you what makes him noteable? Hubschrauber729 (talk) 05:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
""The LaFayette Jackson-Veterans Organization is incorporated in the State of Ohio as the "LaFayette-Jackson Veterans Organization" signed by the Ohio Secretary of State. LaFayette, Ohio has changed dramatically because of the items cited in this article. The suggestion that article should be removed because there are no noteworthy resources validated our existence is alarming. LaFayette, Ohio is a very small village of only about 300 people. Our veterans organization has about 25 members, with 7 to 8 very active. Considering the size of the village, that is is a large percentage. The veterans organization is a very integral part of this village. In order to have a complete profile of the village of LaFayette, Ohio, The activities and history of the LaFayette Jackson Veterans Organization and the LaFayette Jackson Historical Society must be recorded here. Wikipedia Editors have also challenged the spelling of LaFayette based on research which does not include the official records of the village. (Yes Properly Spelled with a capital "F") They are also challenging and denying that the village nickname is Patriot City USA, again based on arbitrary reasons without checking into the villages records. It is time for wikipedia to examine LaFayette, Ohio Village documents before making these statements based on research that does not include official village documents. I challenge you to contact the village council at 225 E Sugar Lafayette, OH 45854 (419) 649-8801 to get the information you need to verify what I have been saying here is true before you delete this page. Ljvo (talk) 03:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Carter's typical pronunciation was /ˌnukjuˈliər/, rather than /ˈnukjulər/. —SlamDiego←T 07:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Let me apologize for just getting to your message. I have had serious computer problems over the last few days. I did attempt to check your reference, but was unable to access it. I wish I could have been of more assistance. --Acntx (talk) 08:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Some counties had the template, most don't. Admittedly I don't know how to edit the template, but if it's still gathering and displaying 2006 estimates instead of 2007, the template should be changed (or just leave my '07 updates in place and the estimates can be updated manually). Normal View (talk) 23:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Wow -- Thanks for clearing all those up. Yes, please feel free to delete that user subpage. -- Avocado (talk) 13:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi- I started an article-Eureka, Winnebago County, Wisconsin. I tried adding it to the Winnebago County, Wisconsin template and it did not take hold. My apologies. I goof! Thanks- RFD (talk) 20:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Thank's, Nyttend! The county templates of English Wikipedia are much goods. Greetings! Felipe P 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, much appreciated! ;) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. I get a bit bleary-eyed when doing semi-repetivitve work, and brackets sneak in. On the towns vs. cities issue, I completely understand your viewpoint. My rationale is that the articles should have as much up-to-date information as possible. While the 2000 census is the last official count, and I agree that the yearly census estimates should be left out, the census change list does indicate that these town have officially been upgraded/downgraded, which is why i was trying to add the ref link to each article. I would like to continue on this, but have no problem leaving it alone, but I'm not too keen on having to leave it until 2010/11 for the next census. Is there a policy on this or has this been discussed elsewhere I might have missed?
Thanks again! 25or6to4 (talk) 19:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
my grandparents live there , painesville city is seperate from painesville twp. By my understanding and others i have talked to it sounds like you are saying painesville is in painesville twp. Cedarpointohio2 (talk) 01:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
What, and write a whole extra three words? You have to be kidding me ;)
I'd be happy to...but only 'cause you asked nice. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 14:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes it is :). Psychless 14:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I’m inspired by your New Jersey Community efforts. I’m trying to do the same for unicorporated communities in North Dakota. I have a few thoughts or observations I wanted your opinion on.
First, I understand User:Alansohn above commenting on using Census Zip Code Tabulation Areas as a source for community demographic data. That’s a good rough estimate, but it probably shouldn’t be the only source. The data covers the entire zip code, which often exceeds the city boundaries. For example, Lefor, North Dakota, 58641, is listed has having an area of 82 square miles if you base it off just the ZCTA. As someone who has driven through Lefor, I guarantee it isn’t 82 square miles. We would need to be cautious in how we word it so we aren’t implying that “population of zip code = population of city.” Also, the ZCTA does not always equal the exact boundaries of the corresponding USPS zip code[ http://www.census.gov/geo/ZCTA/zctafaq.html#Q14]. ZCTA’s are census inventions based on actual zip codes, but aren’t equal.
Secondly, many communities share a zip code. This is more common for unincorporated communities, but it is true even for incorporated cities. Gascoyne, ND and Scranton, ND both are zip code 58653. That’s the primary zip for Scranton, but Gascoyne is a valid city for addressing purposes. Gascoyne used to be 58629, but its post office closed in 1982 with mail to Scranton. Using zip code data from the census would give population for both the cities and the surrounding countryside. Third, many articles on communities state “even though it’s unincorporated, it has a post office with a zip code of XXXXX.” Again, Gascoyne doesn’t have its own separate zip code or a post office. Lefor, on the other hand, does have its own zip, but its post office closed in 2002. People either have rural route mail service, but has to drive to Gladstone 12 miles north to visit a physical post office. A zip code does not automatically mean a post office exists. The lede of these articles should probably be rewritten as such.
Finally, I found the details on old zip codes from the U.S. Postal Service’s Postmaster Finder. It has good information on historical post offices and zip codes. Thought it would help you out.
Cheers.Dcmacnut (talk) 20:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I didn't know whether the information I added was of any use, but I put it on anyway. Thanks for removing it. About the township, do you know which on it is exactly. My thought was the Waterloo township, based on the township maps provided. Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 02:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Now that you've become my personal editor (lol). Please see the referenced page. I've added some data to this page, and noticed the references are messed up. I'm not sure how to fix them... RickH86 (talk) 14:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I thought references were supposed to be numbered. The reference tagged as [1] in the text is the third one listed under references, and the references list is not numbered at all. RickH86 (talk) 20:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not exactly sure why you went to Waycross, Georgia page and added that is in Pierce County, and went to the Pierce County page and added that Waycross is a city in it. But for whatever reason you were misinformed. The city limits of Waycross ends within Ware county, about 2 miles away from where Ware County and Pierce County border each other. I reverted.Swampfire (talk) 16:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I am not sure if this link [2] would be of any help in the discussion, but it shows that on January 1, 1990, there was a boundary change between Ware and Pierce counties. Since Census Bureau's latest population estimates [3] show that 9 people live in the Pierce County portion of Waycross, I think that it should be noted. --Acntx (talk) 12:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
As Nyttend knows, I'm a bit of a geography buff and self-proclaimed expert on all this Census-related, so I thought I'd weigh in. I'm all for relying on local knowledge when discrepancies crop up, but official, reliable sources clearly indicate part of the city extends into Pierce County (whether not residents pay Pierce taxes, vote in Pierce elections, etc). The Census Bureau gets its boundary data from annual boundary surveys of state, county, and local governments, which is based on official information provided by the local government officials. Someone in the local government must have submitted the information on Waycross, being partially in Pierce County to the Census Bureau. Otherwise, the Census Bureau wouldn't be showing it. Below are some reliable sources on this matter.
Given this information, I think it the article merits mention of Waycross extending into Pierce County, however it should be worded to respect local tradition and common use.Dcmacnut (talk) 15:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I understand Swampfire's concerns, but Nyttend is correct about the standard way we describe for multi-county cities. It also doesn't matter that the resident's pay taxes to Pierce County. If they reside in Waycross on the Pierce side, than it is Waycross. Take a look at the Pierce County Assessor's website. Click on Search Records, accept the terms of use, and then click on "Search by Parcel Number." Enter Parcel number "025007," which is a parcel of land around 133 acres in Pierce County owned by the City of Waycross (Click "Show Parcel Map". Several other properties in the immediate vicinity are also in Pierce County's "Waycross Taxing District." The site won't provide a direct URL to the page. I was trying to provide reliable evidence that Waycross is in Pierce County as well as Ware, but additional exposition would is necessary to describe the situation better. That would tone down the "in your face" reception of "city in Pierce and Ware counties." Setting that aside for the moment, I've posted compromise language for the lede on the Talk:Waycross, Georgia It doesn't match exactly with the standard for other two-county communities, but I think there is room for flexibility in this case given the lack of consensus.Dcmacnut (talk) 01:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you explain exactly what was wrong with what I added to Dorchester, IA? --Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 22:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
--Robbie (talk) 22:52, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. --Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 17:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Concerning your recent edits to the McCartney Library Page: I am currently working at the library and compiling research and documentation to merge some semblance of a cohesive history for the public. As a part of this, I noticed that Wikipedia’s focus on the library was more than considerably sparse and that it still contains gaps in information; therefore, I am currently uploading some of the information released by Archives, as well as my own personal research. When I obtained photographs from Archives as well as Public Relations (again, to build up the comprehensive accounts), I was given permission to use them as well as permit commercial reuse and derivative works. Obviously, they were deleted in your last two edits. I am not sure of your reasoning, but I deduce that it is the cause of either the licensing or the release.
I tried two different ways of licensing (and you can tell me which one, if any, are correct). First, I tried to make use of a free creative commons license ( {{cc-by-3.0-us}} ). Second, I tried a General Public domain license for works released by the creator {
{{cc-by-3.0-us}}
If this is not legally possible:
PD Public domain false false
). Also, (as I try to cover all the bases) I own a high resolution camera, and can reshoot all the pictures myself.
I know that it usually is not considered good etiquette for an employee of an institution to publish information, as it may contain bias. However, I am not “selling opinion” but merely trying to publish fact. I live in Beaver Falls and have been doing research on the library long before I ever worked there and find myself fascinated by the depth of the relationship between the building and its religious roots as well as the community and international aspects of its historical journey. If you could offer me an explanation over the photograph edits or if you want to extend assistance or offer an alternative means of publishing images, it would be much appreciated. Thanks HSnodgrass (talk) 18:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi- I came acrosse an article about Glidden, Wisconsin. I had to do a major revision. The article had Glidden as a city but it is an unincorporated community; the Ashland County, Wisconsin does not listed Glidden as a municipality as such and DeLorme's Wisconsin Atlas &Gazetteer has Glidden located within the town of Peeksville, Wisconsin. Would you please take a look at the article.I am not sureif the statistics are right. Also according to the log, the article had been deleted at least twice. Thanks-RFD (talk) 16:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
In response to your question regarding the Oklahoma City MSA map, that will be fine. Thanks. --Acntx (talk) 12:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
If you want to, go ahead and format all of the one's I did, that way I can be bored to death next week. I had hoped that I would be able to have something to write, and those articles were going to be my busy work. Oh well. Have fun finding the references!! JLG 2701 01:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Just wanted to let you know that I added the demographics section to the article. --Acntx (talk) 08:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Seeing you adding the link to City (New Jersey), I wondered: is there any article on a topic similar to Local government of New Jersey? I know New York and Wisconsin have such articles; they're the only states besides New Jersey that I know have detailed articles on their local governments. Nyttend (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I sort of went along with it after taking out anything that might have been construed as "advertising." It is a public park and free (I guess). It seemed different. I saw you had deleted it once but it was re-added by someone else so I edited it. Not a top priority for me if you want to delete it again. May have to explain it to the editors to keep it out. Student7 (talk) 11:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Nyttend. I am working on a stub for the small community of Shannon in Mason County, Kentucky for which I have a source and a photograph. I noticed that the Template:Mason County, Kentucky calls the tiny villages of Dover, Germantown, and Sardis "cities". Are these places actually incorporated or do they belong under a section entitled "Communities", like at Template:Madison County, Kentucky? I had changed the designations of these places but decided to defer to your greater experience in this area. Regards, Aramgar (talk) 15:38, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
HiCan you check out Talk:Dunwoody, Georgia, I think the message there is directed at you.Cheers, Amalthea (talk) 18:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
The town has a tilde ever since I moved here there is a tilde on everything about Española if you go the City Website they have a tilde, on my Utility Bill it even has a tilde. Factfinder is not right all the time. Colorado Lover (talk) 03:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC) Sorry to Be Rude but I like articles to not be wrong so if you would'nt mind moving it back to Española!!! Colorado Lover (talk) 03:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Frequently, English usage does include the local diacritics, as with Besançon.
If no name can be shown to be widely accepted in English, use the local official name. Non-English names should be used only if there are no established names in English;
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You deleted Fairbanks and Morse in the tiny town of St. Johnsbury, Vermont because they were non-notable, even though I had a footnote referencing the fact that they had founded Winter Park, Florida. Consistency here means that you are forcing articles on people I can create a stub on but would rather defer it because I am lazy. May have this problems with schools as well. People are known outside of school (county commissioner for example. mayor maybe) might not have an article but would be notable outside of the school. While Morse and Fairbanks are candidates for stubs, I suppose, I don't know about my local mayor! Still a plus for the school though. Student7 (talk) 12:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
See my comment here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Wikipedians_in_Iowa#Users_from_Iowa_aren.27t_necessarily_in_Iowa I'm not sure how the categories work from userboxes, as I just added them to my page, but if you know the fix, or someone else who does, I'd appreciate it. RickH86 (talk) 13:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I am planning to create separate articles for some of the Georgia Micropolitan Areas. Do you think I should move your maps to the newly created page and remove it from the principal city article or just add it to the new page and leave it on the principal city page as well?
Also, by the time I logged in this morning, it looked like the whole situation with the Dunwoody, Georgia page had been resolved. Is that the case or is my input still needed? Thanks. --Acntx (talk) 21:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Nyttend, I originally made a three county map for the Ft Wayne MSA - it is still on Commons here but it is the old version. When the article was to 7 counties I made the newer map without checking. If you want I can re-upload the original 3 county version so it can be used in the article. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
You're just jealous 'cause you'll never make it!
a) fairly notable for this section of the country. There were 2000 or so other candidates. b) when I compare this to most places who have obscure athletes and musicians (all with articles of course!) that I never heard of, Bride of the Year seems a welcome distraction. Student7 (talk) 13:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I just tagged the Salisbury-Ocean Pines CSA Wikipedia Image for deletion. --Acntx (talk) 13:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Right, I'm still watching you since I was waiting to see if anyone'd respond to User talk:Nyttend#Española, New Mexico, but I guess I'll take it to the article talk page. :)Cheers, AmaltheaTalk 07:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, just so you know I'm not upset that you undid my population thing on Wikieup Arizona, I'm just curious if you are a big "tiny town" or "ghost town" studier like I am. I live in Las Vegas and am about to embark on a trip to some tiny towns with barely any population at the end of this month, was wondering if you'd been to any places like Essex, Goffs, or Cima California? Or maybe Nipton, Ca. OR Nelson, Nevada? I'm hoping to have enough info to post some stuff online here when I get back. Would like to hear from ya! Meet Me Outside (talk) 09:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC) (Jeff)
Sorry for the late response. I was taking a nap. Anyways, a block does not seem too bad as it is clear that it is the same person and they falsely warned an admin of all people of vandalism and made a clear vandalism reversion. Which was after a personal and final warning from an admin. RgoodermoteNot an admin 01:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
And just like that you'll loose my presence on your talk page. ;)BTW, I don't think the google hits can really give you the most common spelling since both searches find both spellings (I have no idea why the number-of-hits differ), and the Census Bureau website itself couldn't call it Española if it wanted to, since it can't cope with non-Latin-1. But if no one can prove that Española is the official name (in which case I'd definitely think it should also be the page title) none of that really matters.Cheers, and see you around, AmaltheaTalk 12:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: diff, I didn't know that in general we don't accept partners of the U.S. census as reliable sources (though if you could provide a link to the specific guideline about official partners at WP:CITY, that would be helpful, all I can see is "This section provides a demographic profile of the community, and usually relies on census data. Do NOT include population projections past present time per WP:CRYSTAL. Again, US Census figures only"), but FYI the consensus at WikiProject Oregon is that the PSU Population Center is a fine source for population updates. We'd rather people use PSU than pull a number out of thin air! Feel free to change the refs, but note that many Oregon articles use the PSU link, and I think this would be a fine time to IAR. Katr67 (talk) 20:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I just re-read the terms of use, focusing on advertising - I am clearly not in any violation. Play your game, but you are clearly in the wrong and this is bordering on post stalking. Please discontinue this childish behavior. --CoachEqualizer 04:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I guess I need to "Sign" so you know who I am. --CoachEqualizer 04:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoachEqualizer (talk • contribs)
Please explain in what way listing comunity entertanment for the family is wrong.
Anything you list could be construed as advertising...example... Swanton Corn Festival, Swanton Parks...
Isn't there a section for Nintendo? Sony? McDonalds? Whay in the heck would putting community entertainment be wrong??!!
You have now deleted appropriate additions 3 times, please find something else to do besides following me. Leave the post as is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoachEqualizer (talk • contribs) 04:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Please do not delete my additions because you think it is spam. I have the right to add something I think is useful and entertainment venues in the city are important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoachEqualizer (talk • contribs) 04:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Please read this.
Edit war
Please understand that others opinions may vary from yours. As long as they are within Wikipedia guidelines they are fine.
Regards --71.55.38.232 (talk) 05:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC) --CoachEqualizer 05:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoachEqualizer (talk • contribs)
Ok I'm REALLY confused, yes age is a factor. Marc Horowitz has been edited all over the place. He IS from Westerville,Ohio yet sometimes it stays up for awhile now it is gone as soon as I enter it. Others have disappeared on that list as well. What gives? Also a page on Marc Horowitz is always up for a speedy delete, I'm banging my head as to what is wanted by editors. I have seen very short pages and lengthily ones, so does one just rewrite over and over again? Thanks in advance.. CJS007 (talk) 12:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)CJS007
My marking Cleveland was a mistake. Thanks for catching it. --Acntx (talk) 12:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Firstly, It is not my article and the original author may still not be aware of your nomination. Secondly, The other author(s) should have been notified (see AFD rules) which you did not do. They can vote anyway they wish. Unaware that in notifying them, and asking them to support retention, I was breaking rules. Thank you for pointing that out, it will not happen again. There are references about his military and later life that are missing, and I hope thay can be found. Did you think previous author(s) and editor(s) who did not earlier think the article should be deleted, should be kept in the dark about this AFD thing? By the way, I acknowledge that I am a beginner here and am learning a lot from this interaction. I want to be like you, a model wikipedian. Thank you! Hmose (talk) 15:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I have no problem with you reverting my move of the John Edwards page, but I'm a bit curious perhaps. If the title is inferring a "possessiveness", ie, John Edwards' affair, or "Notable Person X's subarticle", why wouldn't we use an apostrophe. Perhaps I'm missing the obvious? Keeper ǀ 76 21:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Got your message. Will move that one RHP out from Pittsburgh to the Allegheny county list. The NRHP program information is imperfect like that. It requires local knowledge to make the corrections, which of course we want to implement. In Los Angeles County vs. Los Angeles the city, there were lots of switches, both ways, needed, starting from the NRIS database info as in these tables. I will "watch" the Pittsburgh and Allegheny articles, too. doncram (talk) 21:44, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
When i click on the coordinates link within the NRHP infobox of Reformed Presbyterian Church of Vernon (showing 42° 54′ 55″ N, 88° 13′ 7″), it brings me to the right place, I think. First it brings me to "Map sources/geo hack" and then I can choose Google map. That is what brings me to the Google map view, and I can toggle to Satellite view and zoom in. The specific location is right on a large building on Big Bend Dr. near Vernon, WI. Adjacent to the south is what looks to me like a cemetery, so I think it is a church.
The address in NRIS is W234 S7710 big Bend Rd., Vernon, WI, which seems to have a typo of Rd rather than Dr. You can see this in the left side Elkman generator output at http://www2.elkman.net/nrhp/infobox.php for the site. The suggested cut-and-paste material is at the right, the full address is not included in that but is at the left.
If i try that full address in google, it just brings me to a point on Big Bend Dr. in Vernon, that is not the correct point on the street. But the specific coordinates seem to work fine, as mentioned above, so i am pretty happy with the info in the article. Does this help?
Also, I know that Royalbroil is an active wikipedian in Wisconsin, uploading pics of NRHPs recently, you could definitely ask for help on Royalbroil's talk page.
Also i added {{reqphoto|in=Wisconsin}} to the Talk page, though I don't know if the reqphoto ever actually helps get anyone to go photograph a site. doncram (talk) 14:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Nyttend, I've done what you had asked me to. Thanks for informing us about that, it seems to have gone unnoticed between other users. Bye, and happy editing. :) --Austroungarika scold or call 21:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi there... what can we do to agree on my edit adding the table for Elected Officials on the Wood County, Ohio article. I'm really not sure the current text that is under the "government heading" is appropriate. The Weston Public Library is not a county library, it is a village library, located in Weston. If were are going to source the Weston Public Library on that page, we should also be sourcing the other libraries in Wood County. I feel a table of elected officals is more important in that space, and if it needs sourced, I will be happy to source... could you let me know your feelings, please? Westonjoe (talk) 20:15, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
On 4 July you speedy deleted Louie's Texas Red Hots as blatant advertising. I had been dealing with spam-vandalism by someone associated with the company around that time, and I fear you may have simply seen one of their edits and deleted it without checking the history to see the article that was previously there, which my friend and I co-authored with an attempt to make it as neutral as possible. If you could review it, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks! --Varco (talk) 15:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I invite you to please re-visit your stance regarding the above AfD. This article has undergone substantial improvement in the last few days. I hope that you will close this debate soon. riffic (talk) 22:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The picture is from subjects' personal papers. I have one or two others that were taken at the same time. Taken by US Army Photographer at Greenham Commons Airfield, 5 June 1944. Quite a quest going on to identify the soldiers on the stamp. There is a column in NYT "Stamps" columnist Barth Healy, which went into this matter.Hmose (talk) 13:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC) See also http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE5D6113BF932A2575BC0A967958260 Hmose (talk) 14:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
A metropolitan area is a city where the boundaries of that city extend to that of another incorporated city. Since the boundaries of Kellogg extend to Osburn and Smelterville and Osburn reaches Silverton, and since Smelterville reaches Sweeney and Pinehurst that is grounds for making a Metropolitan Area. Since Kellogg is the largest city of more than 1,000 more than the second Kellogg would be the most important city so the area would be named the Kellogg Metropolitan Area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Post Falls Man (talk • contribs) 05:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
You might want to reconsider this speedy deletion. It might be a poorly written article, but it contains some fairly obvious assertions of notability, all of which can be verified in seconds. – iridescent 20:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
The Connally Report was released to the public in 2002. I paid for my copy in 1999. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Detroitnews9 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
You are wrong! The Austin American Statesman has the entire document on its website. I have the entire document copied from the Austin Historical Library and paid for the documents. There are no copyright restrictions on any of the documents. State documents follow Federal Documents in terms of being paid for by the public. It is a "Public" document!Detroitnews9 (talk) 22:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
The copyright laws for States are done State by State, they are not uniform, nor are States required to have copyright laws on State Documents. In this instance, Texas is a Freedom of Information State, and the material was gathered using the Texas Freedom of Information Act; there is no copyright or State Seal attached to any of the pages of the documents. You are mistaken in your application!Detroitnews9 (talk) 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Meet my little friend (lol) Mr. Fair Use - My responses are in Bold
§ 107 · Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use 40 Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.
In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include— (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; (I am submitting the work to Wikipedia (Wikimedia), for a nonprofit educational purpose.)
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work; (Deals with the subject Charles Whitman) (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copy-righted work as a whole; (one page)
and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copy-righted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors. (Does not apply, no market value)
May I have your co-operation now? Thanks Detroitnews9 (talk) 01:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Above!Detroitnews9 (talk) 02:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
The question is...and I understand copyright law and its intentions...if Wikipedia will not allow the provisions for a "Fair Use" contravention in an article that deals with a subject within an article, without some potential commercial gain for Wikipedia, doesn't that negate the "Fair Use" doctrine?Detroitnews9 (talk) 02:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Although you explained, I'm not quite sure of your point: but please understand that (1) this is a violation of Wikipedia's fair use policy, and that (2) the nonprofit nature of Wikipedia does not mean that anything can be uploaded here to take advantage of that nature. End/
As to (1), Wikipedia apparently has its own interpretation of Fair Use as there is no clear cut form to follow and (2) to use nonprofit and commercial in regards to one entity is oxymoronic. That's like saying Bush is a Democratic Dictator, which may or may not be true, but it still is an oxymoron. Why don't you look at the image I uploaded and see if there is any way to use it under Wikipedias rules instead of looking for a way to block it. I would appreciate that. ThanksDetroitnews9 (talk) 02:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Nyttend, you were almost helpful!Detroitnews9 (talk) 02:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello Nyttend.
I was trying to find information about the Auther E. Wayne Fox, and the page has been deleted.
E. Wayne Fox is the author or coauthor of several arts and crafts books including: Plastic Lace all over the Place Bead a Better Buddy Itty Bitty Beady Buddies
And numerous others.
I am not sure if pages can be undeleted, but if so, It's restoral will be greatly appreciated.
Pinkgiraffe44 (talk) 00:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I am not certain on how to respond to you, however teh Text would be wonderful, thank you.
Pinkgiraffe44 (talk) 01:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I notice you deleted this file. The PDB states here that all data and structural images in the PDB is in the public domain. Would it be OK if I restored the image, or do you think it would be better to take it to review? Tim Vickers (talk) 02:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello. It sounds like there is a conflict of some kind. Are you running 64 bit Vista? If not, maybe the game is just not compatible with Vista. Or, if you have the latest version of the game (looks like it's 3), make sure you download and install all the latest updates from the game's website - http://www.rollercoastertycoon.com/. ARTYOM 00:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I am requesting the undeletion of this article per the note on its associated talk page, and the discussion I had with the original administrator who tagged it, TomStar81. The persons whom this guitar worked with are very notable, and that co-operative work makes this young man very notable indeed, Please undelete this article or move it to my userspace please, since if you had read the notes we had made before deleting it, you would have seen that I was planning to wikify and cleanup the article. Your immediate attention is requested to this. Thanks. Thor Malmjursson (talk) 10:17, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. At this point I haven't yet got an accute sixth sense for when things are or are not notable, and I didn't spot any sources to back up the claim, so I though this may have been a driveby save. Apologies, I will be more careful about that in the future. Thanks for the message, though, I do apreciate hearing from more experinced user on these matters. TomStar81 (Talk) 14:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
This morning, I noticed a fairly new wikipedia article Postville Iowa Raid (Agriprocessors Kosher Meat Plant) about a recient controversial and historic immigration raid here in Iowa. Although the article certainly needed some work, I recognized most of the material on the page from local, national and international coverage of the raid, as well as from an essay that one of the interpreters for the federal court. Specific information was not cited, although there was a list of poorly formated references with URLs at the bottom of the page.
You speedily deleted this page with an edit summary of (G10: Attack page or negative unsourced BLP), without first placing a speedy deletion tag to allow for comment of interested editors. The page was certainly not an Attack Page, nor was it a Biography, and most of the information contained in the article could easily be specifically cited to reliable sources. I believe that an WP:AfD would have been more appropriate for this article to allow for discussion (with a probable outcome of keep), if you really feel that it should be deleted, since its deletion is certainly bound to be controversial, and it does not meet the criteria for Speedy Deletion.
I would ask that you please undelete this page, so that editors can work it up into a good wikipedia article. Thanks! --Ramsey2006 (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
You have deleted all mention in the entry on Wilton of the G.H. Bass company, the manufacturing concern that first put the town on the map in the nineteenth century and with whose fortures the town was inextricably linked for generations -- until the eventual sale of the company to a conglomerate. In your entry, you say that you deleted mention of the company and its "Minnesota" roots. Presumably, you meant Maine. Regardless, by stripping the wikipedia entry of any mention of its largest manufacturing company for decades you have taken away any sense of historical context. The rise -- and fall -- of G.H. Bass & Co. was the largest industrial story in Wilton's history, and is emblematic of manufacturing history across New England. It would be far better to leave the Bass history to do what wikipedia should presumably strive for: give a sense of depth and history to its articles.MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Postville Iowa Raid (Agriprocessors Kosher Meat Plant). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Ramsey2006 (talk) 17:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Don't be discouraged. The room was filled with mathematicians...faculty, grad students and undergrad students, and nobody brought the error to my attention during my talk. Of course, it is entirely possible that some undergrad in the back row, frustrated and bored at trying to follow my broken spanish, and too shy to raise his or her hand to correct me, may have noticed the error. One hint though: One does not have to be an expert in Ramsey theory and edge colorings of graphs to find the error. It is a bit more elementary than that.--Ramsey2006 (talk) 20:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Great job getting an aerial photo of Dola! And kudos to you as well for even knowing where Dola (which happens to be my wife's hometown) is... I've known folks even in Hardin and Logan counties who hadn't heard of Dola before! -- JeffBillman (talk) 02:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the nice new aerial photos of Findlay and Jenera and McConnells Mill State Park (ah the benefits of a large watch list) Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it can be pretty frustrating being image deleted warned for images you've spent time adding a full rationale uploading. I;m sure there are many images which don't qualify for fairuse and even abuse it, but I have uploaded thousands of irresplaceable images which I believe comply with fairuse copywright law and general wikipedia policy on content where a free alternative is not possible. My deep concern was that if people choose to delete the ones listed at IFD at present which I uploaded, they will find a way to delete all of them and in doing so will be spammed thousands of deletion messages, stress and a distraction I don't need. The Bald One White cat 08:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
If you are going to remove maps, then please remove the "...-dot-on-..." .jpg/.png maps and not the "pushpin" maps.
The point or purpose of the pushpin map is so that "1" accurate State of Ohio or Cuyahoga County background map can be reused with accurate coordinates rather than having several often "inaccurate" map image files.
A better use of your time would be to create an appropriate {{Location map USA Ohio Cuyahoga}} template and corresponding image file which could then be used as a pushpin map, see {{Location map USA Ohio}} for how to do so, specifically, a Cuyahoga County map image with a smaller map of Ohio in 1 of the corners showing where Cuyahoga County is located within Ohio; rather than removing pushpin maps from Infoboxes ... LeheckaG (talk) 10:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
it should be sufficient to cite general problems.
LeheckaG (talk) 12:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
"Portage Lakes" is both the name of a community (populated place) as well as the name of the larger U.S. Census Bureau CDP which includes it.
My repeated "issue" with CDPs are that while CDPs mean something to the U.S. Census Bureau; CDPs mean little to anyone dealing with "Portage Lakes" as a "populated place" rather than a Census statistical "abstraction". Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a (re-)publication of the U.S. Census Bureau (and the U.S. Census Bureau often has "inaccurate" geography).
Your "coordinates" updates have some inaccuracies:
{{Mapit-US-cityscale|40.994205|-81.533739}}
|latd = 40 |latm = 59 |lats = 39 |latNS = N and |longd = 81 |longm = 32 |longs = 1 |longEW = W
whereas Portage Lakes (either community-populated place or CDP where the people "counted" are) is actually to the North and East of those coordinates "on the other side of the water".
I had made transcription error copying accurate coordinates from GNIS:
to: |latd = 40 |latm = 0 |lats = 19.5 |latNS = N and |longd = 81 |longm = 31 |longs = 51.5 |longEW = W
|latd = 40 |latm = 0 |lats = 19.5 |latNS = N and |longd = 81 |longm = 31 |longs = 51.5 |longEW = W
i.e. where I missed updating the latd = 40 to latd = 41.
But where does 40 59'39"N 81 32'1"W or 40.994205,-81.533739 come from? Again, why [{{Gnis3|gnis-feature-id}} gnis-feature-id] or {{Cite gnis|gnis-feature-id|feature-name}} should be used rather than {{GR|3}}?
[{{Gnis3|gnis-feature-id}} gnis-feature-id] or {{Cite gnis|gnis-feature-id|feature-name}}
{{Cite gnis|gnis-feature-id|feature-name}}
{{GR|3}}
LeheckaG (talk) 15:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
removing bad external links coordinates which you keep re-adding - they are unsourced and represent neither the official populated place nor the CDP. LeheckaG (talk) 10:51, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
--Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, can this site be used as RS? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 04:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
First I have heard of it! Looks true from what I can find out from non-wikipedia sources. The article Bennington Triangle has been there for a long time. I sort of thought that 204.167.92.26 was on the side of the angels, deleting stuff (sorry. I am not a paranormal guy!). Maybe he deleted too much? I'm sure you have noticed that a lot of material was not referenced. It's been there long enough to have accumulated footnotes from somewhere. I placed a "needs footnotes" on the Bennington Triangle itself, but left the others alone.
I would be glad to help, but not really sure where to start. Just like other material right?
As small as Vermont is, you may be surprised how narrow my focus is - just Northeastern Vermont and a handfull of other places (Chittenden, largely).
I probably have missed the point here. Let me know. Student7 (talk) 23:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed that you deleted Peter Schechter for copyright infringement. While I agree that it was blatant copyright infringement, the person who posted it - User:Szadok seems to be trying to get it released as Public Domain or GFDL. The problem seems to be verifying that the information has actually been released as PD or GFDL. I was wondering if you knew anything about copyright releases that could help him out? I've directed him to Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems but don't really know/remember how to handle these cases beyond that. Thanks. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 03:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I also noticed (sadly) that you deleted Peter Schechter for copyright infringment. I do not know how to express myself better, but the texts were written by Peter Schechter and edited myself and the texts realeased under GFDL license by Mr. Peter Schechter and myself. Now, a similar text was posted at heatherfreeman.com and was removed completely, mainly to avoid any copyright disputes, as the texts that were under heatherfreeman.com were written by Peter Schechter and edited by Mrs. Heather Freeman (Mr. Schechter's PR). I would like to re-enter the texts again to Peter Schechter value. Can I do that? Or do I need other type of proof, to show that the text is free to the public under GFDL license? If yes, What type of proof?. Thanks alot, Please feel free to contact me also at: info (AT) israel-hosting(DOT)net. Szadok (talk) 11:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your answer (I am a newbie, so it really helps). As for conflict of interest, I am the editor of the text and I kept a neutral point of view. I took only the facts of his Bio. I would like to use the {{PD-author}} license. Do you think it might feet? I am waiting for your answer before I re-enter the texts for Peter Schechter. Szadok (talk) 12:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello, yeah i will propably be the only one using it are not exactly comfortable with the internet--let alone a Wiki page. But we discuss what is going into the article so I am not holding a monopoly on information. Thanks for your help and please respond to this on the Medway Historical Society user page so we can keep tract of all of our doings on Wikipedia. That way we can have some accountability. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.131.125.49 (talk) 12:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
What does official mean? Hyacinth (talk) 22:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Let me apologize for the delay in responding to your message. I haven't been on Wikipedia that much in the past few days. Have you resolved the situation with the {{Warren County, New York}} template yet? --Acntx (talk) 10:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
That makes total sense now. Thanks! prinzwilhelm (talk) 21:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Rather than just reverting, would you fix the coordinates on Aleknagik, Alaska, North Platte, Nebraska, etc. BTW: no, not all coordinates are broken. -- User:Docu
<from User talk:Docu> Aside from my obvious error with Deverre, what's wrong with the coords listings? Has the coords project deprecated the coor dms, or something like that? The Mapits are quite standard; they've historically been required by the WP:CITY article layout guidelines, and only removed recently without consensus. Nyttend (talk) 12:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
</from User talk:Docu>
Please restore the gnis id I fixed on Deverre, Nebraska. -- User:Docu
I think I plucked most of the low-hanging fruit on this a while ago -- which is alarming, given the size of what remains. Trouble is, categorisation and infoboxing of the rest of the articles looks to be very patchy. I'll see what can be done, though... Alai (talk) 14:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I found a better source, this time from the official UC magazine. Please see if the new ref/source addresses your concerns. youngamerican (wtf?) 20:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
You incorrectly cited WP:USCITY in moving references into another section. If you look at WP:USCITY under the References section you will see it says, "List all sources used in building the article in this section." Likewise Wikipedia:Layout under the Further reading section says, "This section does not include publications that were used as reliable sources in writing this article; these should be cited as references." Moving the information is incorrect since they were used in creating the articles. —Mike 06:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
An article you contributed to, Walter J. West, is being considered for deletion. The editor questioning the article is not using the traditional AFD process but is instead calling for discussion on the talk page of the article. If you would like to contribute, please visit that articles talk page.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Would you please close the AFD for Chris Underhill when you get a chance since you speedy deleted the article? Thanks. -- BeezHive (talk|contribs) 14:45, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Before you do that would you please reconsider the speedy deletion? The article had several claims of notability including the founding of charities and the receipt of an MBE. I was about to add some references to the article such as these ones when I found that it had been deleted. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry about taking so long to get back to you. As for undeleting that file; I don't have any objections. Personaly I suspect that if it's been floating around since 2005 and no one have made use of it by now it's probably not going to happen at all (hence the move to delete it). However if you can see some use for it then by all means I won't stand in the way of it beeing restored. --Sherool (talk) 22:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I know you were involved with creating them. I don't understand why the order of the municipalities was selected so I started a thread at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wisconsin#County_navigation_templates to discuss. Your input would be appreciated. Royalbroil 13:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Have you ever been to Norwich? Dan and Whit's is the cultural and physical center of the town. A reference to Dan and Whit's is not spam. Mcbgirl (talk) 16:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Mcbgirl
Thanks for catching that. Townships made sense with original text.DCmacnut<> 01:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
That should indeed be possible. (Well, not on the page directly, but if I split it up into a number of separate text files...) You're welcome, btw; that was a pretty constructive discussion all-round, really (if a tad on the lengthy side.) Alai (talk) 03:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Can you please provide some evidence as to why you continue to revert the edits on Farragut, TN. The town's website clearly defines its western boundary as the border with Loudon County, yet you keep adding Loudon to Farragut's list of counties. The town only lists itself as part of Knox County. If people are residents of Loudon, then they do not live within the Town of Farragut as it is incorporated. Jhb 10s (talk) 20:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey, since you seem to have a better idea of how to do it than me, maybe you should make the rest. I'll start sorting! L'Aquatique[parlez] 19:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I originally objected to having a WP:NN (no bio) whose credentials included Mayor. Of course, that is not sufficiently notable in itself for making a list from Rutland. For the article on his high school, maybe.
I assumed you reverted it cause I was being too hard on a newbie who was trying to contribute. Point taken.
DEC is an appointed position, which is okay with me for notability.[6]. I don't have your reference handy but I am sure it is more than adequate. I would still rather skip the mayor business (because it will eventually attract other people who were only mayors) but I don't want to fight over it! :) Cheers! Student7 (talk) 14:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I've responded to you via e-mail. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 20:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, glad to chat about this. That type of anonymous NRHP plaque appears at some NRHP sites. Based on the 200 or so NRHPs that I have visited and photographed, I would guess about 10% or less have that plaque. Most have no plaque. Some have other plaques that are individualized for the specific NRHP. It's a safe bet that the type of plaque does not appear at this church. And, the photo is of one particular instance of that anonymous plaque which is at only one site, but the photo is linked to 100 or so articles. In my view it should be linked only from one article, and it is misleading otherwise. Regards, doncram (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Nyttend, you appear to have been following me around and removing the links I've been posting. I've actually put in a complaint about this with editor assistance, but I'd also like to try and discuss this separately.
You seem to be under the impression that I am on some sort of promotional crusade with respect to these links. Please understand that this is not the case. With respect to the virtual tour links, these simply provide a look at the communities in question in a unique format. Yes, there is a small amount of text extolling the virtue of the communities in question, but I think that is to be expected. Yes, they are both on the same site, but I can't see how one would link to the images without linking to the individual pages. I've gone through the spam and ELNO guidelines again, and see no reason that these links should be considered violations of either. There do not appear to be any prohibitions against linking to multiple pages on the same site, and the content is relevant.
I can understand your attitude about spam. I run a web design and hosting company, and we recently fired our server provider in part because of their inadequate spam filtering system (our new one is great - one or two messages a day squeak through, with no loss of legitimate communications). I run a blog at nm-central.com at which I have to delete spam every day, and I do it with a vengeance. So please understand that I'm not looking to spam the wiki, as it were.
I also think that you may not understand the status of the Estancia Valley Economic Development Association. This organization is the first step for small business owners in obtaining assistance from the state economic development department, as well as the first point of contact for new businesses looking to relocate to the valley, which is just east of Albuquerque. You can confirm this, if you like, by contacting the New Mexico Economic Development Department. Given that the links provide both useful information and a unique look at the communities, I'd like to ask that you stop removing them.--Weckerleje (talk) 23:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I came across an article from Minnesota Public Radio about a proposed study about dividing St. Louis County, Minnesota into 2 counties. I wrote a short sentence in the St. Louis County article with the Minnesota Public Radio article as a citation. Sometimes I would read the St Paul Pioneer Press and every once in a while someone would bring up the issue of dividing St. Louis County, Minnesota into 2 counties. However, nothing happens. I thought you might be interested with this issue.Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I understand your POV problem. How about you fix the neutrality issues and leave the information that was so gleaned from the Nebraska State History organization as well as the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, and a nearby town's newspaper.
That could have just been to simple I guess than deleting it. Good work. Way to really show a great ethic for this community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tacoslick (talk • contribs) 02:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
YOU OBVIOUSLY DID NOT READ OR FAILED TO HEAR MY TALK. I HAVE THE MAP (NOT ORIGINAL REASEARCH). THE MAP ESTIMATES THE LENGTH TO BE 140 MILES FROM CIRCLE TO ALLAKAKET. THE NPS SITE http://www.nps.gov/gaar/alatna.htm SAYS 83 MILES, AND, ACCORDING TO MORE THAN ONE RANGER, THIS IS ONLY THE DISTANCE OF THE ALATNA TO THE EDGE OF THE PARK, WHICH IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ALLAKAKET. ONCE AGAIN, NOT ORIGINAL RESEARCH, THE NPS SITE DOES NOT SAY WHAT THE WIKI PAGE SAYS WITH YOUR EDITING. SO YOU ARE THE ONE PUTTING OUT INCORRECT DATA. LOOK AT THE MAP. YOUR DATA IS WRONG. NOT JUST AN EMAIL. GET A MAP AND CHECK IT YOURSELF, AND STOP TRYING TO PULL A POWER PLAY. YOUR NOT THE WIKI GOD. IF YOU DONT HAVE A MAP, THEN STOP IT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamsamich (talk • contribs) 02:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I just went down this river and it is no where near 85 Miles long. Why did you delete my post? This misinformation caused us much heartache, although if I would have been the group leader I would not have relied on just the Wiki Page and the NPS page. I am in contact with NPS right now and they agree with me that there is a problem. So please let my data stand until we get something better from NPS Alaska. People might go into the Alatna thinking they only have 85 miles to go when it is closer to 150 miles from Circle Lake.
Original reasearch? Look at the map (the one you have to buy). I told you I was in contact with NPS and they said something is wrong. Not my original reasearch, just BACKED UP by my research. The actual map you buy there has the river and the scale, it is way over 100 miles at first glance. Get the map before you delete my post again. NPS, the map and my GPS all agree, AS I ALREADY STATED. We worked it out to about 140 miles on the map. People are going down this river and only scheduling enough time for 85 miles from Circle Lake. The problem is the NPS website is vague. It is acually talking about the number of river miles only in the park. I put in my original post the Map shows this. This is NOT original research. If you don't believe me call NPS, the number is below, but don't delete my post, it IS NOT original research, just backed up by my GPS. People's trips could be ruined and there is an outside chance someone could get hurt if you don't leave this one alone.
Email from NPS:
Hello Jim,
Thanks for your input on the website. After an initial look at the Alatna River page and a discussion with the ranger staff present, it looks like the 83 miles listed is probably an estimate of the miles of river within the Park boundary. This is very unclear and not necessarily the sort of information needed. I will look into this further and do what I can to clarify the information. The wolf sighting you describe is odd. Several similar incidents have been reported in other areas this year. I'll pass the info on to the biologist who collects this sort of info.
Thanks again,
Tracie
Tracie Pendergrast, Interpretation and Education Gates of the Arctic National Park and Preserve 4175 Geist Rd. Fairbanks, AK 99709 (907) 455-0641 (winter) (907) 692-6922 (summer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamsamich (talk • contribs) 01:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC) Hamsamich (talk) 04:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)Hamsamich
CONCERNING THE ALATNA, IT IS NOT THE SAME MAP AS THE ONE ON THE WEBSITE. ARE YOU DRUNK? THIS IS A HIGH RES MAP YOU BUY AT THE RANGER STATION. NOT ORIGINAL RESEARCH - FROM NPS. AND THE NPS WEBSITE DOESNT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE DISTANCE FROM CIRCLE LAKE TO ALLAKAKET, YET YOU LEAVE THAT INFORMATION AND DELETE MINE. WHY IS THAT? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamsamich (talk • contribs) 03:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thank you, nyttend. i've gone down the AfD route with this - apologies, there was some rather heated discussion last night regarding this and i was a bit flustered --Kaini (talk) 14:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning the population info on the article. Quick question: In your aggressive cleaning of the population section you deleted some cited edits, as well as the references, without reinserting new references. Did you intend to do that? Is there president for using unreferenced population data? Clarification would be appreciated. • Freechild'sup? 20:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
I thought I was just taking care of some redlinks by removing the square brackets around the redlinked items and adding some italics around the book names. How I managed to do all that other changing is going to take more study. --Sultec (talk) 22:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
As I compare the version I edited with the one you fixed, I can't figure out how I messed up. Given that I know I didn't purposefully delete other then the square brackets from the redlinked items, what else might have gone wrong? I'm quite worried about this. --Sultec (talk) 03:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
It appears obvious now that the page List of people who died before the age of 30 is headed to deletion. I support its deletion myself. But this has given me an idea. Do you think it would make sense to have a set of categories called "Age x deaths," all in a parent category called "Deaths by age?" That seems like a better idea. This way, there would be no worry where to draw the line as to what age is "significant" as an age of death, and all ages people live to can possibly be included. There would be no need for one person to create all these categories in one day - they could be built gradually over time. We already have categories like 1949 deaths. Why can't we do the same with age? I would like some input. Sebwite (talk) 23:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I was curious about this edit. Why go from links to the ethnic groups to 10 links in two sentences to the same article? I noticed it earlier today and I left a comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/Guideline#Race and ethnicity in the United States Census. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 23:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Thanks. That makes some sense, but why multiple links? Wouldn't it be better to follow the MOS and just link to the Race and ethnicity in the United States Census once? CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 00:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I was just wandering if you could unblock Big Brother 11 (U.S.) so it can be created? The show has been picked up with sources. There is now substantial content for the article and while I am usually against creating articles for reality TV shows six to twelve months away I find it unfair for other confirmed shows like Survivor 18 to have an article while some can't. Plus anon editors may attempt to create the article anyway under a different naming scheme. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 23:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Could you explain your recent block of LongBay (talk · contribs) please? I can't see exactly what he's been doing wrong. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 23:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I raised a question on the talk page of the Fairfax County, Virginia template, Template talk:Fairfax County, Virginia which I hope you can comment on. Regards Argos'Dad 14:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
As you know, the Census does not track population for unicorporated communities, in the same way it does incorporated cities. There aren't very many modern sources of populatin data on these small communities, and since Wikipedia policy is to use Census-only sources, I've been looking at using Census blocks as a starting point. Census provides population down to the specific block, and you can then provide a 1-to-1 correlation for which blocks constitute a community by looking at the Census maps. For example, North Lemmon, North Dakota includes block groups 2420-2427 (map), which have a cumulative population of 21. This link shows the population of Block 2426. Do you think I could add that information to the article without violating WP:NOR? I'm thinking the various micropolican statistical area articles, like Aberdeen micropolitan area, give precedent for this kind of data. There is no single population or demographic source for μSAs, so the articles use the total data for each county in the area. I'd do the same for unincorporated communities, only on a smaller scale. What do you think?DCmacnut<> 19:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Nyttend - So where is there anything on Wiki that says you cannot link to YouTube, when video can clearly contain material relevant to understanding the topic, and yet still be too large to paraphrase in the wiki article?
I note from the pattern of your vast listing of contributions that you spend about half a minute on each page, and edit a wide variety of kinds of wiki pages. For Colstrip, it is most likely you have never actually looked at the YouTube video to really judge as an editor if it is relevant to the topic... You have a responsibility to not discourage contributions of real knowledge to a particular topic. The video should remain - it is about Colstrip's History as told by a Poet Laureate P.primo (talk) 04:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestion for assigning the history to a separate category. You're exactly right. Much appreciated. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Have you been following the Rfc on notability guidelines? My concern is that however these guideline reviews turn out, we could wind up with a lot of Afds for location articles, simply because "Any town, USA" has never been written about extensively in a newspaper, journal, or other source. As you know, there is a group of editors who argue that a geographic location is only notable if it receives "significant coverage" in secondary sources. Of course this is the general guideline for all notability cases. But some take this to the extreme that only news articles or journals that write specifically about the location and its existence qualify as reliable. Other editors have gone so far as to state a view that even U.S. Census data does not lend evidence of notability, per Option Two at Wikipedia:Notability_(Geographic_locations). While this Afd mentality appears focused on small, little-known (nationally) towns, I think it could apply to many U.S. County articles. When's the last time you read an article or articles that specifically discussed your local county that "address the subject directly in detail"? Some editors even go so far as to state that even coverage in a local paper doesn't qualify, such as comments that the Anchorage Daily News isn't a reliable source.
Others editors take the opposite extreme, that any named place is automatically notable just because it exists. I don't think either view is 100% accurate. Some ghost towns would be forever regulated to stub status because there simply isn't enough information about them to expand the article. I would agree those articles probably wouldn't be appropriate, but the town could be mentioned in some broader context. See the article on Petrel which mentions it's former life as Thebes. I would argue Thebes doesn't deserve it's own article, or at the very most could exist as a redirect. At the same time, we have articles on a majority of townships and incorporated cities, so Wikipedia would be incomplete if some were left out because someone thinks they aren't notable "enough."
With respect to what sources qualify, my view is that Decennial Census data qualifies as a reliable, secondary source, since the Census, particularly American Factfinder, "draws on primary sources and other secondary sources to create a general overview; or to make analytic or synthetic claims," such as total population, race, ethnicity, etc. Another primary source for the geographic location would be the annual Census Boundary and Annexation Survey, which is a collection of first-hand information from local officials on the size, location, and names of towns, townships, and other locations. I'd view the GNIS database similarly, since it also relies on primary information from local officials or first hand accounts.
I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this? I'm just trying to collect my thoughts on this whole debate, and am looking for input with the intent of commenting on the Rfc at some point. I think Proposal B.6 is close to my way of thinking.DCmacnut<> 19:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Why do you insist that the Rochester School Website (rochesterschool.org) is the Official Town Website? The Official Town website is, in fact, rochestervermont.org. Need Verification? Please call Town Clerk JoAnne McDonnell at 802-767-3631. Many of us volunteer for the school and the town, and we can't get this Wiki thing right. We'd like to have each listed properly.
Also, exactly how many ELs is "proper" for a town? Thank You.
--Normyo (talk) 02:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm with you on this one, but just need some sort of criteria. Any suggestions? Useful to have some broader measurement to perhaps apply to other articles as well. It's a slim league, for starters! Is that enough?Student7 (talk) 02:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
If you would have READ what I edited, instead of simply reverting and accusing me of advertising, you'd see that I cleaned up grammar and actually toned down what was originally written about the restaurant, which is in fact the "only" restaurant (or business, frankly) in that town. I'm originally from around the area, and the tone of that section had been irritating me ever since I discovered it. Note that I never actually mentioned the name of the place either. Chill out and stop accusing me of advertising when I did no such thing. I'm changing it back, as the version I had was less congratulatory, more factually accurate, and had better grammar. --129.42.161.36 (talk) 21:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)