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Thank you for pointing that one. I will do that completely. Cinder painter (talk) 16:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Hi User:Cinder painter,

I noticed that the majors were removed from the Azerbaijan State Pedagogical College article. Could you explain why?

Thanks, Wiseuseraze (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

they were not properly sourced and looked like copy-pasted from the uni page Cinder painter (talk) 08:11, 17 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

The list of majors was directly sourced from the Azerbaijan State Pedagogical College's official website, which is the most reliable and accurate source for this information. The concern about the content looking like a copy-paste is understandable, but the university's own website is the best authority on its programs. I will reformat the citation to ensure it's properly referenced in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines. ~~~~ Wiseuseraze (talk) 15:16, 17 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

check the guidelines on sources Cinder painter (talk) 11:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

I'm wondering what you were getting at here. See WP:PRIMARY. Use of primary sources to verify facts on Wikipedia is allowed, with care. (That's totally separate from establishing notability.) Cielquiparle (talk) 21:54, 3 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello, this is was my first article. It was declined and the message I got from you is, that it is probably notable, but looks like a promotional piece and is poorly structured.

Can I ask for more clarifications please? I am going to create other articles as well but it will not have any sense for me to contribute to Wikipedia when you will reject everything what I will write.

Please clarify in details: 1. what shall I delete or change exactly? 2. what structure shall it have?

Thanks in advance Piqro24 (talk) 11:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for coming here! The draft currently reads as promotional due to its detailed focus on achievements and praise, such as phrases like "significant landmark" and "brought a new vision." To improve:

• Rewrite the article in a neutral tone, avoiding language that implies judgment or admiration.
• Focus on verifiable facts and avoid subjective statements or interpretations. Also, the draft lacks citations to independent, reliable sources. Most claims are backed by references like pdfs that may not be verifiable or independent enough or to close to the subject.

Cinder painter (talk) 11:37, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello and thanks a lot for your prompt respond.

Now I understand and I will take out the works which might be subjective.

For the citatations, if you see many of those pdfs are the documents of the United Nations. I can hardly imagine more reliable sources as the official UN documents. Please consider this point.

Thanks a lot again for your comments and cooperation Piqro24 (talk) 11:49, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

primary sources are not usually good, but also are not bad. Read this essay and you will get the idea better:

Wikipedia:Identifying and using primary sources Cinder painter (talk) 11:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again for your assistance.

I read it but now I am more confused.

Could you point out which of pdfs shall I delete? Here are some of them, e.g. pdf book which is direct prove that the author has written the book. Or the UN publishes what the person has done in her lifetime... I think we can not remove such kind of sources.

I have another question and hope you can help me: I did not find how I can create main infodesk and the photo within the article. How can I do that?

Thanks million in advance Piqro24 (talk) 12:48, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

you should not delete, but try to find secondary sources too.

try to insert "infobox person" template it will guide you.

photos should be added here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and then you can copy the file name. However, photos must not be copyrighted and should be released under a particular license by the copyright holder themselves. Cinder painter (talk) 12:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

THanks a lot. I will try my best and if I get other problems, I will come back to you. Sorry for bothering but I think it is important to continue with the work on other articles and not to have the same problems all the time Piqro24 (talk) 16:10, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

you are welcome! Cinder painter (talk) 16:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello,

I think I have adjusted the article according to your advices: took subjective points of view and tried to use secondary sources. Now the pdf-s are left only as a prove of concrete publications.

I also used infobox person possibility and uploaded the photo, however the link which I have put in appropriate box does not shows the photo.

Could I ask you to check whether the draft now meets the standards of wikipedia and why the photo link does not work.

Million thanks in advance again. Piqro24 (talk) 15:25, 24 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello, sorry for bothering you again, but I would like to ask you about the feedback. Piqro24 (talk) 10:29, 29 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi, this is my first article so far. I am trying to start out with writing article about engineering firms and facts. The draft was declined and I appreciate your comment on some of the content not being worded in an appropriate way. Thanks for the specification.

Furthermore you noted that the sources/ references are not reliable: Is there a problem with the sources provided or is it because the history of the company isn't supported by sources? For reference: I was looking at the article about Flottweg to get a sense for when sources are needed when writing about the company history.

Thanks in advance for the help! NosyStudent (talk) 11:37, 23 January 2025 (CST)

@NosyStudent25: it's a complex problem. Please be sure you read at least this guideline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Nkiru Olumide-Ojo, you may be blocked from editing. Your behavior on this article is very bad. You deliberately removed a ton of sourced information (blanking) and then nominated to AfD. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 01:22, 11 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

I removed unreliable sources which only make the impression of the person's notability (WP MILL, REFBOMB) Cinder painter (talk) 09:45, 11 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi! As per WP:FILMPLOT, "Since films are primary sources for their articles, basic descriptions of their plots do not need references to an outside source." Sid95Q (talk) 11:25, 12 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Came to say the same thing, although I was going to cite MOS:PLOTSOURCE - Arjayay (talk) 11:44, 12 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

thank you! @Arjayay @Sid95Q Cinder painter (talk) 12:14, 12 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi, This is my first article and I am trying to start establishing myself through contributions. Mr. Lakra is a renowned person in the North western Indian state of Punjab and is well respected as well. His relevance & prominence can also be noted through the several mentions of him in the news.

The correction about a certain citation is also now taken care. Please approve.

Thanks in advance for the help & guidance. Cat09wiki (talk) 06:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi Cinder painter, thank you for your helpful comments on my article about Caitlin Begg. I took out the Forbes Next 1000 reference, the YouTube link, and the link from a non-notable podcast she was featured on. I took the time to find and then add considerable additional sources from Newsweek, Columbia University, Business Insider, Time, Marie Claire, HR Portal, and more. I also fixed some citation and grammar errors. I hope that this helps for the draft's next steps. Thank you and I hope you are having a nice day. I am new to Wikipedia so please excuse me if this message was not necessary, and I don't mean to rush your process in any way :) Coloradorockies453 (talk) 04:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your efforts. I will let other reviewers decide, but in any case, you can write to me here. Cinder painter (talk) 07:20, 4 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your contributions to Nkiru Olumide-Ojo. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nkiru Olumide-Ojo was closed with this outcome. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Owen× ☎ 14:39, 25 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! Good resolution of this discussion. Cinder painter (talk) 15:58, 25 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Given this had been closed once, I relisted it to be sure all had the chance to weigh in. No issue with your close. Star Mississippi 02:08, 28 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Can you provide some insight on the reasoning for extending this discussion? CNMall41 (talk) 17:36, 13 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Yes, you are right; there was no reason — it was clearly a Delete outcome. Cinder painter (talk) 09:23, 14 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. When did you plan on correcting? --CNMall41 (talk) 21:36, 14 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

You will see that I have disagreed with a recent one of yours. Please do not take this personally. Every day is a learning opportunity. I rarely have a day here when I do not learn something. I hope you feel the same. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:42, 14 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your kind word and feedback! Cinder painter (talk) 12:47, 14 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Cinder painter,

Deletion discussions should not be relisted more than 3 times and many editors believe they shouldn't be relisted more than twice. But definitely not four times. In fact, please do not relist AFD discussions just because they are still open, it sometimes takes closers a while to review open deletion discussions. If a consensus is clear, there is no need to relist a discussion just because it hasn't been closed yet. Thanks for your help. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:43, 14 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Liz:, see thread above. Asked them to correct it but not sure why non-admin relisted in the first place. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Liz @CNMall41 I just manually reverted it; it was clearly my mistake. I miscounted and thought it was the final third relist. Sorry about that. Cinder painter (talk) 17:09, 15 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you! I’ve already reread the guidance. Cinder painter (talk) 13:11, 21 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello Cinder painter. Thanks for reviewing the draft. I however do not understand your decision: The given reason for decline was that the the draft needs multiple published sources that are: in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements), reliable, secondary, strictly independent of the subject The references at crunchbase, inriskable, dun and bradstreet are secondary references by independent companies who in-depth and reliably evaluate the draft's subject, namely the companies who run this designer social network. The draft enables especially young architects to get a fast overview about the situation they are in -thats what Wikipedia is about. So in short - I do not understand the decline and would appreciate some further comments. 2003:EA:CF47:5E00:EDEC:EE4D:814C:4BFB (talk) 07:17, 21 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I noticed belatedly (because of a file deletion notice) that you nominated Localgiving for deletion. As one of the main contributors to the article history, attempting to rescue it from being promotional, I would have appreciated a notice of the nomination.

For info, I have recreated the page as a redirect to a section in a related article, and trust that you have no objection to this. It might have been better to suggest that outcome in the nomination. – Fayenatic London 12:11, 24 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

I'm really sorry I didn't notify you. The script should have notified you — very strange. Nevertheless, I'm happy you preserved the content. Cinder painter (talk) 12:17, 24 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Hello, and thank you for reviewing my submission. I’ve updated the draft for **Joseph A. Fansler** by adding multiple **independent, reliable sources** from established newspapers:

- The Indianapolis Star - The Indianapolis News - The Star Press - The Tampa Tribune

These sources verify early online innovations, real estate ventures, and national political engagement.

I’ve also formatted inline citations using proper `<ref>` tags and added a `

` to ensure they display correctly.

Would you be willing to review the updated draft and let me know if it now meets the notability and sourcing standards?

Thank you for your help and time!

Jfansler (talk) 08:47, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

thank you! pleae hit the button resubmit Cinder painter (talk) 09:00, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi - can I ask you to reconsider your close of this, please? On the basis of concerns over the the lack of sourcing, which was not effectively refuted, I do not see this as keep. While the discussion did not reach a consensus to delete, neither is there a consensus to keep since the assertions for keep were not strongly grounded in the existence of reliable sources. The discussion would have been better relisted. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 21:51, 26 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi! @Goldsztajn sure, just reverted and relisted it. Best regards Cinder painter (talk) 10:50, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:06, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Cinder painter, kindly note in your relist that you closed as keep but was asked to reconsider. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

good point, done Cinder painter (talk) 11:14, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Hi Cinder painter, thank you for reviewing my draft article for the internet and cloud gaming provider Pentanet. May I please ask which of the four reference criteria were missing from my draft?

I modelled the draft on similar articles from other Australian internet providers of a similar scope and notability as Pentanet. For example Superloop, Exetel, Aussie Broadband. As an ASX listed company and the exclusive operator of NVIDIA's cloud gaming service GeForce NOW in Australia I'm confident I can source references meeting the necessary criteria.

Moloch86 (talk) 07:47, 7 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

please read this attentively Wikipedia:Reliable sources Cinder painter (talk) 07:53, 7 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I noticed in one of your reviews (Draft:Jeffrey Prang), you wrote "fails NPOL and Anybio", without any links. Since AfC is a space for new users, such confusing acynoyms should not be used, doubly so unlinked. Ca ^{talk to me!} 01:26, 10 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

good point! thank you for this feedback Cinder painter (talk) 10:21, 10 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Additionally, you applied the orphan tag just 13 minutes after I created the article, while I was still making changes to it. It's not quite appropriate to, as the only action taken in the capacity of a new page review, tag a brand-new article as an orphan so soon, before the creator has had a reasonable chance to add links to it from other articles—which, incidentally, I did. Doing nothing else in addition to placing the orphan tag on an article created a few minutes ago (especially an article which wasn't actually an orphan) and leaving it at that is a little too lazy. A better approach would be to also send a message to the creator, offering at least some feedback on the article. —Alalch E. 15:42, 11 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for reaching out to me. I completely understand you, and you're absolutely right. Cinder painter (talk) 18:38, 11 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

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I noticed that you recently tagged Bogdan Povh as needing more sources and not having extensive coverage. The criteria for academics are different, please see WP:NPROF. He had enough sources, and was an exceedingly notable academic. Unlike many others, his page is short and simple without puffery. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

I agree and I apply NPROF, but it clearly says: Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable. Cinder painter (talk) 08:40, 15 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Cinder painter. Thanks so much for the assistance on Fort Nottingham and adding an infobox. You read my mind. Much appreciated. Derek J Moore (talk) 08:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

You're welcome, and thank you for the kind words! :) Cinder painter (talk) 08:19, 24 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks for your contributions to List of MeleTOP episodes. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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it is not mine:) I declined it via AfC and somehow it appeared in my mainspace, thus I requested its deletion. Cinder painter (talk) 12:29, 7 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi Cinder painter, thank you for your review of the biographical article, Isyana Syahira Meida. If you don't mind, please consider taking a look at Raymond Indra and Rinjani Kwinara Nastine. Thanks! NerdNutz (talk) 03:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

I love brownies, thank you! I will take a look at the other pages. Cinder painter (talk) 07:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello Cinder painter, thank you for your attention to my article about lithuanian motoracer Mykolas Paulavičius! I fixed the mistakes according to your suggestions. I hope that now my article looks better) I would be very appreciated if you look at it again. Thank you very much! Ekaterina T. (talk) 08:47, 19 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

nice work! Cinder painter (talk) 08:52, 19 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Hey Cinder, you declined my draft, stating that it was not adequately supported by reliable sources and that it was promotional. I would disagree.

(1) Sources: Sources 1, 5, and 7 were published by a reputable academic organization with thorough editing in which the subject of the biography had no hand in writing or editing. Sources 2, 6, and 8 were published by a reputable university, in which they write about their employee (the subject of the Wikipedia draft). Source 4 is a reputable institute that researches, archives, and writes biographies on African American men and women (as with the other sources, it is not self-published). Source 3 is the individual's Curriculum Vitae, which according to Wikipedia rules (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons), is ok to use when writing a BLP so long as it does not conflict with certain rules, which it does not. Sources 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 are applicable for use because, as Wikipedia's rules for BLPs states, self-published sources "does not refer to a reputable organisation publishing material about who it employs or to whom and why it grants awards."

(2) Neutrality: This BLP is written conservatively, is not sensationalist, and does not spread unsupported claims. This BLP simply documents what the cited secondary sources say about the individual. It simply documents this individual's achievements, and uses clear, direct, and factual language. However, if you're insistent that there is some promotional tone throughout the page, what would you recommend changing?

thanks. J anaya05 (talk) 19:50, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

I heard you. Thank you for your motivation. I suggest submitting the draft for AfC again Cinder painter (talk) 06:53, 18 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Understood, thanks for your help! J anaya05 (talk) 19:40, 18 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Hello Cinder painter,

You recently reviewed and rejected my draft Draft:Han-Oh Park. I would greatly appreciate your advice on what specific improvements are needed to meet Wikipedia's notability and sourcing standards. If you could point out the main issues or suggest concrete steps, it would be very helpful.

Thank you for your time and consideration!

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Hello,Cinder painter, _I hope you are doing well. I have recently created a page, Kainchi Dham please review it. Dsrprj (talk) 15:18, 5 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

hello, it's already reviewed Cinder painter (talk) 14:42, 8 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

YOu moved Bigg Boss (Hindi TV series) season 19 to draft space, but it was moved out of it bypassing the proper process. Plaese draftify again. Obviously it is not ready. --Altenmann >talk 03:36, 27 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

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I'm very disappointed that you have been socking. You did some good work on the project. Don't create any more accounts and perhaps you can take advantage of the Standard Offer. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:59, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Zuck28 (talk) 07:53, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply