Template talk:Non-FIFA teams

This template needs some serious work. How many of these teams actually exist? This template is probably useful but it is very cluttered right now and someone ought to at least begin making stubs for teams that they can confirm exist (or existed). - RPIRED 05:06, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-12T05:06:00.000Z","author":"RPIRED","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RPIRED-2006-07-12T05:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nightstallion-2006-07-15T10:30:00.000Z-RPIRED-2006-07-12T05:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

I concur. This needs to be sourced, weeded out and cleaned up. —Nightstallion (?) 10:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-15T10:30:00.000Z","author":"Nightstallion","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nightstallion-2006-07-15T10:30:00.000Z-RPIRED-2006-07-12T05:06:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nightst"}}-->

According to this source, I find cause for the following listings at least:

• Chagos Islands
• Chechnya
• French Guiana
• Gibraltar
• Greenland
• Guadeloupe
• Jersey
• Kosovo
• Kurdistan
• Martinique
• Monaco
• Northern Cyprus
• Occitania
• Reunion
• Roma
• Saint-Martin
• Sapmi
• Sealand
• Sint Maarten
• Somaliland
• South Lower Saxony
• Tibet
• Western Sahara
• Zanzibar

Referenced in the source but not present:

• Easter Island
• Masai
• Saugeais (a French micronation that does not yet even have its own Wikipedia article)
• South Cameroon
• South Moluccas
• West Papua

Also seem to be worthy (mostly referenced in other nat team articles):

• Guangxi (historical)
• Kiribati
• Mayotte
• Micronesia
• Nauru
• Tuvalu
• Vatican City
• Wallis and Futuna

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New template?

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Should we create a template for NF-Board teams only? It's impossible to make out which teams are actual NF-Board teams and other provisional members in this template. It's also quite clunky. I suggest an NF-Board template and Non-FIFA/Non-NF-Board teams template. If they're a FIFA or NF-Board provisional member, it could be denoted on the respective template.

Aragon national football team

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This team is not a member of FIFA, but also is not a member of the NF-Board. Although it had played some international matches several decades ago, it played against a FIFA team for the first time on december 28th 2006. It was played at "La Romareda" Stadium of Zaragoza and the result was Aragon 1 - 0 Chile. I did not found sources in english, but there are quite a lot in spanish and chilean news. You can find some videos at http://futbolromareda.blogia.com/, and some pictures at http://www.aragondigital.es/asp/fotoReportaje.asp?idReportaje=173 I am going to put again the aragonese team in the template.

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Inclusion criteria?

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This list seems to define its criteria as exclusion rather than inclusion. I noticed the local cubs having a training session at the park last weekend: I'm fairly certain that they are registered with neither FIFA nor the NF Board, so should I add them? Obviously this is flippant, but it makes the point: what are the inclusion criteria for this list? The current list is a strange amalgam of small nations and near-independent territories, sub-national political divisions, islands, towns and ethnic groups. Many of the entities which meet no definition of the word "nation" are listed as national teams, and there is no evidence presented in many of the articles that the team presently exists, or at any time has done so. Kevin McE 01:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-07T01:53:00.000Z","author":"Kevin McE","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kevin_McE-2007-08-07T01:53:00.000Z-Inclusion_criteria?","replies":["c-Kevin_McE-2007-10-20T09:19:00.000Z-Kevin_McE-2007-08-07T01:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

2 months on, and no-body has been able or thought it fitting to provide a rationale for inclusion on the list. For as long as this remains the case, the template list is meaningless. Unless clear grounds for inclusion are suggested within the next two weeks, I will list it for deletion, not because I think it serves no purpose, but because it has no credibility. Kevin McE 09:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-20T09:19:00.000Z","author":"Kevin McE","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kevin_McE-2007-10-20T09:19:00.000Z-Kevin_McE-2007-08-07T01:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Calapez-2007-10-20T14:25:00.000Z-Kevin_McE-2007-10-20T09:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

The meaning of inclusion is the same of this page List of non-national representative teams in men's football that is about the same theme Calapez 14:25, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-20T14:25:00.000Z","author":"Calapez","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Calapez-2007-10-20T14:25:00.000Z-Kevin_McE-2007-10-20T09:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Suggested replacement

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I have created a possible replacement template. If you are interested, please take a look here and comment on this page. Thanks Stu.W UK (talk) 03:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-31T03:26:00.000Z","author":"Stu.W UK","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stu.W_UK-2009-03-31T03:26:00.000Z-Suggested_replacement","replies":[]}}-->

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Saba

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This team was removed as they had never competed internationally, only in internal competition against Sint Eustatius. To be a team competing internationally, you have to face international opposition. Stu.W UK (talk) 23:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-09T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Stu.W UK","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stu.W_UK-2009-04-09T23:38:00.000Z-Saba","replies":[]}}-->