If you're going to be picky, it's NPOV to suggest that Capitalist, Open, and Socialist economies have ever been realised, so I don't see that making this a template for 'actual' economies is particularly useful. We do have many other articles on 'actual economies', and they are of the form Economy of Somewhere. --Nema Fakei 00:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I've followed your criteria, so I'm not sure what you're reverting me on. The criteria on which I've deleted these are in brackets (though other criteria may also arguably apply).
I've added Parecon, since it exists, is a good quality article, is a viable article in the immediate, isn't an ism, is pragmatic, and has a healthy content.--Nema Fakei 22:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We disagree on what should go into this template. I don't believe you are being honest in your discussion of this. I recommend we find one or more third parties to judge. I am not an economics expert; so maybe I'm the one that is wrong here. The bottom line is we need to find other people to arbitrate. Is there a good place to ask for help in a case like this? WAS 4.250 23:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Let's give it a try. Instead of definitions for the template, how about if I just verbalize my thinking and we see where that takes us. OK? WAS 4.250 12:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There was a stupid back and forth battle at Mixed economy over whether to use the progressivism or liberalism or socialism templates. Use none, one of the three, two of the three, or all three. And if not none or all of them then which. The last revert in that war was someone deleting the then existing template from the mixed economy article saying well then let's not have any isms here, or some such comment. Which made me think to look for a template on actual economies by looking in the category called economies. Well it turns out that the articles in the category economies lacked any templates so I created one and put all the articles in the category economies into it (except one or two that seemed they didn't belong in the economies category in the first place). Well, then people added and subtracted to the template bringing us to here and now. The main thing is a template for some of the template-less articles that are in and should be in the economies category. I don't want to add others that are of poor quality, nor do I want to remove templateless articles in the economies category from this template cause I want people to be able to find them and improve them. You cite the article capitalism as an ism, but the article we link to is not just about the ism but also about the actual real world exampes of it. Real economies. On the other hand the participatory economy article looked to me like it was all theory as opposed to identifying and describing actual places and times and workings of actual economies. Maybe it has changed or I missed seeing something or you could improve the article with specific example. Maybe the economies category needs a massive overhaul. Maybe some of the poorer articles could be combined. But who will do all the work? So is this working? Or do we need to call in some third party? WAS 4.250 12:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Right, the system I'm working on is this:
--Nema Fakei 15:48, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
hello, I added the tnavbar at the bottom. This should make it easier to view, edit & talk about the template. I also added a pic of gold bars; I hope this doesn't offend anyone. I know not all economic systems are based on, or even use, gold. But personally I like it when templates have some kind of identifing icon. I choose gold bars b/c it is on the portal page. Naufana : talk 22:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Shosystems of the world? It appears to refer to a single one-year psychological study. I'm going to any major impact on human history. --Kris Schnee 20:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is heated debate over at the Economics article on the use of the Economic systems sidebar. My position in the debate has been that there's one over-riding reason that use of the sidebar on that page is inappropriate which is that the Economics article is not part of that series. Another editor strongly disagrees with that reasoning. I would be grateful if others can either authoritatively clarify this issue or add their own opinions. Cretog8 (talk) 21:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The template currently has two similarly named sections; "By coordination" and "coordination". --Vinsci (talk) 19:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Should we remove "Communism" from the list of Major types at the top? –Vipz (talk) 09:26, 13 June 2023 (UTC) Communism is a major economic ideology (at least within the socialist movement) but it is not a "major" economic system, because it has never been tried. Capitalism and socialism are the major economic types of systems, with most countries having mixed economies and varying welfare programs, a result of combining capitalistic with socialistic practices (somewhere less socialistic (e.g. United States), somewhere more socialistic (e.g. Nordic model)). What was witnessed in the 20th century was state capitalism with strong social welfare, that is, trying to progress to a socialist system. Communism should be removed because just like anarchism, it hasn't been tried, and therefore is not near "major". –Vipz (talk) 09:32, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@SMcCandlish: "communism" is generally used as a buzzword, but most scholarly sources covering the topic care to use precise terminology when describing economic systems of nominally socialist states. They were, as already said, state capitalist systems with strong social welfare; some of them played with the concept of actually democraticizing workplaces (i.e. workers owning the means of production), the bare minimum for describing something even remotely socialist, but this mostly failed due to obstructions of the bureaucratic class.
At the best stretch of the definitions, you could describe these systems as socialist (authoritarian socialist that is), as many of them did and some still do. But if you want to describe these systems as "communist"... which countries' systems are socialist then? –Vipz (talk) 23:22, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
don't think communism (under either definition) is an economic system
"communist regime" and "the communist government of" as in ideological orientation, not the economic system.
Every Communist Country in the World (circa 2021): ... [list provided] Socialist Countries of the World: Countries that have constitutional references to socialism and are thus considered to be socialist states include: ... [list provided].