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Inclusion of Singapore

There is an issue regarding the inclusion of Singapore. Singapore is a country that is located in Southeast Asia with a population primarily composed of Chinese, Malays, Indians and Eurasians. There is no credible source that explicitly supports the claim that Singapore is a part of the East Asian Cultural Sphere in the way Japan, Korea and Vietnam are. As a result, I have removed the country's name from this template.

@MistyfelSR: your example of Australia and New Zealand does not make sense in this context because they are not comparable to Singapore. Singaporean society revolves around CMIO (Chinese, Malay, Indian, Other which is very different to Australia and New Zealand which are very multicultural countries with an ethnic British (Anglo) majority. In Singaporean society and culture there are three main ethnic groups, Chinese, Malays and Indians - all three ethnic groups have shaped what Singaporean culture is. Chinese culture is not the dominating element in Singaporean society, Malay and Indian festivals are recognised at a national level. Four languages are recognised at national level to represent the Chinese, Malays and Indians. Malay culture has had a deep impact on the rest of Singapore with the national anthem sung in Malay, streets named in Malay and Malay cultural elements influencing the local Chinese and Indian cuisines of Singapore. So you can't compare Australia and New Zealand's Anglo majority to Singapore. (Sapah3 (talk) 12:47, 3 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Australia and New Zealand are very much comparable. They are multi-ethnic countries with a European majority, making them a Western country. For example, Maori is also in the anthem of New Zealand and is one of the official languages of the country. Despite that, the culture of New Zealand is considered a Western one, not a Maori one, despite not being located in Europe. MistyfelSR (talk) 03:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Australia and New Zealand are very different because both countries do not have a three main ethnic group system in place. Everything in Singapore ranging from how you live within apartment blocks to street signs revolve around the CMIO (Chinese, Malay, Indian, Other) because Chinese, Malays and Indians are the three main ethnic groups of Singapore. All of Singapore's three main ethnic groups have been influenced by one another because they have beeen living side by side for more than a 100 years. The issue here is that you are making edits without any sources. Do you have a credible source that explicitly states that Singapore is a part of the East Asian Cultural Sphere in the same way that Japan, Korea and Vietnam are? (Sapah3 (talk) 03:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]