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Scouting Describes the movement of Scouting: history (founding, growth), activities one does in Scouting, organization, should cover both male & mixed sections (Scouts and Cubs) and female only (Girl Guides and Brownies), younger/older sections, international
Scout Movement Redirect to Scouting
Scout (Scout Movement) About the members, boys or girls aged 11-17 years, activities they do in Scouting, the Scout section, Troop/Patrol, Scout Law, Motto, Uniform. Not about history, not about the organization or movement.
Scout Remains disambiguation page
Girl Guide and Girl Scout About the members of Girl Guiding (Girl Scouting in the USA and some other countries)
Girl Guide, Girl Scout Redirect to GG&GS (term used in a handful of countries with guiding organizations, including the United States)
Cub Scout, Brownie (Girl Guides) About the groups for those in age ranges immediately below those in the flagship scouting age groups.
Robert Baden-Powell, 1st Baron Baden-Powell About the person Baden-Powell, and his personal history. Not about the Scout movement other than his input/influence. Lots of redirects here, btw.
Boy Scouts, Girl Guides, etc General summary pages that have see also links to other Scouting pages. Used to avoid to lead users to more indepth articles, no longer disambiguation pages due to all the confusion of different naming conventions. All other plurals redirect to the singular per Wikipedia standard, not to Scouting or a separate organization oriented article
WOSM, WAGGGS Articles about the current international organization. Not about the Scouting movement, history pertaining to the organization only.
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Article watch

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These articles were summarily redirected:

There has also been edits to:

This got deleted:

...and then there's this:

You may want to add these to your watchlist. --evrik (talk) 02:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240321022900","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evrik-20240321022900-Article_watch","replies":[]}}-->

I am going to be AFK until next week. Just an FYI, I just posted this: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Graywalls reported by User:Evrik (Result:_) --evrik (talk) 04:04, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240325040400","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evrik-20240325040400-Article_watch","replies":["c-Evrik-20240607024500-Evrik-20240325040400","c-Evrik-20240612222200-Evrik-20240325040400"]}}-->

  • Attacking the reputation of individual users here: Talk:Scouting_in_Washington_(state)#COI_tag_(June_2024). --evrik (talk) 22:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240612222200","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Evrik-20240612222200-Evrik-20240325040400","replies":["c-Graywalls-20240612234700-Evrik-20240612222200"]}}-->
    @Evrik:, When there are edits made by users whose user name is Name-CompanyAcronym and they make contents nearly exclusively on the area associated with the company/org in question, that raises reasonable cause for COI. When an article has edits by multiple such editors, or editors whose edit pattern and name otherwise suggest clear professional connection, it's a reasonable suspicion. When articles are tagged with the template, they're listed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_with_possible_conflicts_of_interest which allows it to be noticed by uninvolved editorsinterested in addressing articles with COI concerns. Graywalls (talk) 23:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240612234700","author":"Graywalls","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Graywalls-20240612234700-Evrik-20240612222200","replies":["c-Evrik-20240612234800-Graywalls-20240612234700"]}}-->
  • Calling out someone who hasn't edited in eight years is a stretch. --evrik (talk) 23:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240612234800","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Evrik-20240612234800-Graywalls-20240612234700","replies":["c-Graywalls-20240612235300-Evrik-20240612234800"]}}-->
    @Evrik:, It's not a call out on any individual in specific, but the contents added by them still present in article and possible COI they may have had at the time the edit was made. "Attacking the reputation of individual users" is not the case here and I ask that you retract such accusation. Adding COI tag helps with improving the article, because it would bring the article to the attention of those who monitor articles tagged with them and they come from the broader Wikipedia editor community as opposed to being confined to interest specific WikiProject. Graywalls (talk) 23:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240612235300","author":"Graywalls","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Graywalls-20240612235300-Evrik-20240612234800","replies":[]}}-->
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"Template:WPSCOUTING" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect Template:WPSCOUTING has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 8 § Template:WPSCOUTING until a consensus is reached. Nickps (talk) 21:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240508214600","author":"Nickps","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nickps-20240508214600-\"Template:WPSCOUTING\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":["c-Evrik-20240508235500-Nickps-20240508214600"]}}-->

  • We don’t need the redirect. Please go weigh in. --evrik (talk) 23:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240508235500","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Evrik-20240508235500-Nickps-20240508214600","replies":["c-Koavf-20240509064800-Evrik-20240508235500"]}}-->
  • This redirect is helpful and consistent with several dozen other templates. Please weigh in. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240509064800","author":"Koavf","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Koavf-20240509064800-Evrik-20240508235500","replies":["c-Evrik-20240509155500-Koavf-20240509064800"],"displayName":"Justin (koavf)"}}-->
  • The redirect is completely unused. It was created three days ago. --evrik (talk) 15:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240509155500","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Evrik-20240509155500-Koavf-20240509064800","replies":["c-Koavf-20240509180500-Evrik-20240509155500","c-Evrik-20240509200600-Evrik-20240509155500"]}}-->
    • It is helpful and consistent with several dozen other templates. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240509180500","author":"Koavf","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Koavf-20240509180500-Evrik-20240509155500","replies":[],"displayName":"Justin (koavf)"}}-->
  • Not within this wikiproject. Unused and unneeded. --evrik (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240509200600","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Evrik-20240509200600-Evrik-20240509155500","replies":["c-Koavf-20240509201200-Evrik-20240509200600","c-Evrik-20240509201400-Evrik-20240509200600"]}}-->
    It is helpful and consistent with several dozen other templates. There is no need for this. Please pump the brakes. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240509201200","author":"Koavf","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Koavf-20240509201200-Evrik-20240509200600","replies":[],"displayName":"Justin (koavf)"}}-->
  • This redirect is unused, and not need by this wikiproject, just cleaning up the cruft. --evrik (talk) 20:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240509201400","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Evrik-20240509201400-Evrik-20240509200600","replies":["c-Koavf-20240509204900-Evrik-20240509201400"]}}-->
    Please stop. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240509204900","author":"Koavf","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Koavf-20240509204900-Evrik-20240509201400","replies":["c-Jkudlick-20240509205700-Koavf-20240509204900"],"displayName":"Justin (koavf)"}}-->
    @Koavf and Evrik: Both of you need to stop. The comments made by both of you can be interpreted as an attempt to WP:CANVASS. The RfD is already linked, and ALL discussion should be held there. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240509205700","author":"Jkudlick","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Jkudlick-20240509205700-Koavf-20240509204900","replies":["c-Evrik-20240509220500-Jkudlick-20240509205700"]}}-->
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Template:Scoutstat BSA

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{{Scoutstat BSA}}

@North8000, Jkudlick, GoingBatty, and Eagleinflight: Can we get this template updated? --evrik (talk) 23:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240520234700","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evrik-20240520234700-Template:Scoutstat_BSA","replies":["c-GoingBatty-20240521135600-Evrik-20240520234700"]}}-->

@Evrik: Here are links to the BSA's 2023 Annual Report and the OA's 2023 Impact Report. They don't have all the stats that are in the template, but you could use these to get started. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240521135600","author":"GoingBatty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GoingBatty-20240521135600-Evrik-20240520234700","replies":["c-Evrik-20240521154200-GoingBatty-20240521135600"]}}-->
Not sure of the relationship between {{Scoutstat BSA/sandbox}} and {{Scoutstat_BSA/doc}}. Also, I'd like to update as much as possible all at once. --evrik (talk) 15:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240521154200","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Evrik-20240521154200-GoingBatty-20240521135600","replies":[]}}-->
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Our membership rolls

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I had an opportunity this evening to look at every talk page that had the newsletter delivered today (there was a missing colon in the template and I went back to add them all back in). I know that this page, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Scouting/Members, is out of date. I hadn't realized how badly that Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting/Members/delivery is out of date as well. There are many pages like this one, User talk:Forestfufighting, where the only postings on the talk page are from our newsletter. There are other pages that it is clear that the wikipedian is not longer active. I think we should trim the delivery list. Thoughts? --evrik (talk) 05:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240523054600","author":"Evrik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evrik-20240523054600-Our_membership_rolls","replies":["c-Bduke-20240523062800-Evrik-20240523054600","c-North8000-20240523130700-Evrik-20240523054600"]}}-->

Are they doing any harm? I do not think so. However, if we delete one that someone wants to keep, we will be in deep trouble. Just leave them. It is how Wikipedia works. Bduke (talk) 06:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240523062800","author":"Bduke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bduke-20240523062800-Evrik-20240523054600","replies":[]}}-->
I wouldn't worry about it. And also an inactive editor might still like to consider themselves to be a member. If we wanted to have the list to become more informative regarding this, we could add a "reconfirmed date" column which the editor could update whenever they want. North8000 (talk) 13:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240523130700","author":"North8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-North8000-20240523130700-Evrik-20240523054600","replies":[]}}-->


The newest Lord Baden-Powell

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Baden-Powell,_5th_Baron_of_Gilwell

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the president of the Washington Scouts, L.A. Snead?

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I am uploading some 1920s photos about scouting from Polish archives. This one is relevant to the US, but I am not sure if the person is identified correctly (see heading), seems notable but I cannot google anything with his name as given in the pl archives. For the pic, see File:Ekspedycja Jerzego Jelińskiego dookoła świata - pobyt w Waszyngtonie.jpg

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