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The {{SpaceX}} template is getting huge. So I propose to split off the Falcon launches into a separate template
-- 65.94.42.131 (talk) 05:31, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","author":"65.94.42.131","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z-Split_from_[[TEMPLATE:_SpaceX]]","replies":["c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:45:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T06:04:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","c-JFG-2017-07-01T22:33:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","c-JFG-2017-07-01T22:36:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","c-JFG-2017-08-17T10:27:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
We already have a separate {{Dragon spaceflights}} so it would make sense to separate out the Falcon flights as well -- 65.94.42.131 (talk) 05:45, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-01T05:45:00.000Z","author":"65.94.42.131","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:45:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
An example of the revised {{SpaceX}} is available at {{DRAFT:Template: SpaceX}} -- 65.94.42.131 (talk) 06:04, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-01T06:04:00.000Z","author":"65.94.42.131","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T06:04:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Good idea. I tweaked the draft quite a bit; how do you like it? — JFGtalk22:33, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-01T22:33:00.000Z","author":"JFG","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JFG-2017-07-01T22:33:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-02T04:55:00.000Z-JFG-2017-07-01T22:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
It looks fine by me, though it should include "SpaceX". We need to keep in mind that Falcon (disambiguation) rockets are not just from SpaceX (there being several rocket powered missiles called Falcon). -- 65.94.42.131 (talk) 04:55, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-02T04:55:00.000Z","author":"65.94.42.131","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-02T04:55:00.000Z-JFG-2017-07-01T22:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-JFG-2017-07-04T05:42:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-02T04:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
Good point, although the SpaceX rockets are by far the WP:primary topic for rockets named Falcon, so I think adding SpaceX in the template title would be unnecessary. I have added a link to SpaceX on the company logo. I also added a hatnote about "Falcon rocket" on the Falcon (rocket family) page,[1] to point readers to other rockets named Falcon. — JFGtalk05:42, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-04T05:42:00.000Z","author":"JFG","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JFG-2017-07-04T05:42:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-02T04:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
After the split, we should not maintain a separate navbox for Dragon missions; we could use this one instead. — JFGtalk22:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-01T22:36:00.000Z","author":"JFG","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JFG-2017-07-01T22:36:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-02T04:55:00.000Z-JFG-2017-07-01T22:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
I think we should maintain a separate Dragon template, for use on Dragon use articles, while the Falcon larger template is used on articles of flights that don't use Dragons. We could always remove Dragon flights from this template, to keep it smaller, or leave it in -- 65.94.42.131 (talk) 04:55, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-02T04:55:00.000Z","author":"65.94.42.131","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-65.94.42.131-2017-07-02T04:55:00.000Z-JFG-2017-07-01T22:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Done – I have published the template and replaced it in all articles about launches. Still need to decide whether to keep a separate template for Dragon missions; this looks redundant in articles, see for example SpaceX CRS-12. — JFGtalk10:27, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-17T10:27:00.000Z","author":"JFG","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JFG-2017-08-17T10:27:00.000Z-65.94.42.131-2017-07-01T05:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I added a new section Starlink constellation (seems to be >20 launches of Starlink so it may become too much to put it under commercial satellite section). My question is how can we distinguish between each of the launches? OkayKenG (talk) 15:41, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-24T15:41:00.000Z","author":"OkayKenji","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-OkayKenji-2019-05-24T15:41:00.000Z-Starlink_constellation","replies":[],"displayName":"OkayKenG"}}-->
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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) buidhe18:40, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-21T18:40:00.000Z","author":"Buidhe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Buidhe-2020-06-21T18:40:00.000Z-Requested_move_7_June_2020","replies":[],"displayName":"b"}}-->
Template:SpaceX rocket launches → Template:SpaceX missions and payloads – Requesting a move to a name more appropriate than "SpaceX rocket launches". In this entire template full of wikilinks, there are only two links to topics which are actually about rocket launches; Falcon Heavy test flight and Space Test Program#2019. It's clear the purpose of this particular navbox is to present a list of articles about missions and payloads launched by SpaceX on their rockets, and not articles specifically about SpaceX rocket launches. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk·articles·reviews) 05:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)—Relisting.~SS49~{talk}11:01, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-07T05:19:00.000Z","author":"PhilipTerryGraham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PhilipTerryGraham-2020-06-07T05:19:00.000Z-Requested_move_7_June_2020","replies":["c-OkayKenji-2020-06-15T01:23:00.000Z-PhilipTerryGraham-2020-06-07T05:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
Support per nom. Though new title is a little wordy its more accurate. OkayKenji(talk page)01:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-15T01:23:00.000Z","author":"OkayKenji","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-OkayKenji-2020-06-15T01:23:00.000Z-PhilipTerryGraham-2020-06-07T05:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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