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Neither Marx, Engels, nor Lenin appear in the section for people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.242.10.127 (talk) 06:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-27T06:20:00.000Z","author":"24.242.10.127","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-24.242.10.127-2014-12-27T06:20:00.000Z-People","replies":[]}}-->
The "New Man" isn't really a core tenet, but a project of the Soviet Union. I propose it be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nolan135 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-05-30T20:21:00.000Z","author":"Nolan135","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nolan135-2012-05-30T20:21:00.000Z-New_Man","replies":[]}}-->
He was definitely, at minimum by the time Soviet advice convinced his domestic path, a commited Marxist-Leninist. I see no reason why he should not be included, given some of the other selections.InformedContent (talk) 15:59, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-11-05T15:59:00.000Z","author":"InformedContent","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-InformedContent-2012-11-05T15:59:00.000Z-Mengistu_Haile_Mariam","replies":[]}}-->
Most of this section needs to be redone. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 20:41, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-05T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Xcuref1endx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Xcuref1endx-2015-01-05T20:41:00.000Z-People_2","replies":[]}}-->
I'm going to be reformatting the Variants section, it currently states a couple variants and some links to more information about them. I will be adding more variants or Marxism-Leninism and I will eliminate all the excess links which do not actually state variants but give info on a specific variant (they do not belong there). Give opinions and help out if you can.Mangokeylime (talk) 20:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-13T20:30:00.000Z","author":"Mangokeylime","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mangokeylime-2016-08-13T20:30:00.000Z-Variants","replies":[]}}-->
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Hey, I've been working on a wiki page for the Marxist Leninist concept of self criticism as it was expressed in the writings of Joseph Stalin, Mao Ze Dong, Ho Chi Minh, etc. I think that this section should be included in the official 'tenet' section of this sidebar.
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Looking to discuss the over-use of red on some templates at Portal talk:Communism#Template color discussion. Otr500 (talk) 15:44, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-22T15:44:00.000Z","author":"Otr500","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Otr500-2019-04-22T15:44:00.000Z-Informal_RFC","replies":[]}}-->
@Гармонический Мир: While I personally agree with you that Marxism–Leninism is basically Stalinism and that just like National Socialism should be more proprely called National Capitalism, Marxism–Leninism should be called Stalinism, especially considering since it was Stalin himself who created and because it's neither Marxism nor Leninism; however, this is just my personal opinion. The Marxism–Leninism page refers to it as the official state ideology of the Soviet Union (USSR), of the parties of the Communist International, after Bolshevisation; and is the ideology of Stalinist political parties (i.e. all socialist states governed by a Marxist–Leninist communist party) whereas the Stalinism page refers to policies adopted by Stalin under his rule, referring to it as the means of governing and related policies implemented from around 1927 to 1953 by Joseph Stalin (1878–1953). All so-called Communist states were Marxist–Leninists (some even had Marxism–Leninism as their guiding ideology in their state constitution) but not all of them were also Stalinists; for instance, Tito was also a Marxist–Leninist, even if he disagreed with Stalin and Stalinism (he nonetheless agreed with the one-communist party state rule, socialism in one country, etc. which are all tenets of Marxism–Leninism), so Yugoslavia was a Marxist–Leninist state whereas a country like Albania was both Marxist–Leninist (one of the countries to name Marxism–Leninism in its own constitution) and Stalinist due to its support of Stalin and its policies.--Davide King (talk) 17:22, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-17T17:22:00.000Z","author":"Davide King","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Davide_King-2019-08-17T17:22:00.000Z-Image","replies":["c-Thespoondragon-2019-10-02T21:26:00.000Z-Davide_King-2019-08-17T17:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
In addition, portraits of Marx Engels and Lenin were/are often used to represent Marxism-Leninism, I have seen examples of it in use within the USSR,East Germany, Bulgaria. Variants with Stalin have been used by ML parties/states in Albania, Turkey, the USSR, and in China. As portraits of Marx Engels and Lenin (and often Stalin as well) have often been used to represent Marxism-Leninism, it is fitting to use an example of the image to represent the ideology within the template. -Thespündragon 21:26, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-02T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Thespoondragon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Thespoondragon-2019-10-02T21:26:00.000Z-Davide_King-2019-08-17T17:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Finnusertop-2021-05-27T01:08:00.000Z-Thespoondragon-2019-10-02T21:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Thesp\u00fcndragon"}}-->
@Davide King and Thespoondragon: please check recent edits by Гармонический Мир which they call "Return to consensus version" including the removal of the image and of various terms. In light of this discussion, I do not think this represents a "consensus version". – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:08, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-27T01:08:00.000Z","author":"Finnusertop","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Finnusertop-2021-05-27T01:08:00.000Z-Thespoondragon-2019-10-02T21:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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