Template talk:Crime in Australia

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Positioning and shape of this template

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I am finding that this template is quite large and intrusive in regard to where it places itself in articles, and wonder if anyone else agrees? In my article, for example, on Sarah Jayne Vercoe, it places itself above the picture of the person being identified, and also (in my Netscape browser at least) causes the 'edit' links for the first two sub-sections to be displaced to irrelevant potions in the middle of the text body. Could this template be re-shaped into a horizontal format and located at the foot of articles, maybe just above the Categories? Any thoughts? --SilverWings 09:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T09:32:00.000Z","author":"SilverWings","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:32:00.000Z-Positioning_and_shape_of_this_template","replies":["c-Longhair-2006-01-04T09:34:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:32:00.000Z","c-AYArktos-2006-01-15T20:13:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Go for it. This is a wiki after all. I designed the template, but it's positioning aspects have always bugged me. -- Longhair 09:34, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T09:34:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Longhair-2006-01-04T09:34:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:42:00.000Z-Longhair-2006-01-04T09:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, this is where I reveal my limitations as an extremely novice Wikipedian - I don't know how, boo-hoo! And now, of course, you're probably going to tell me I should go learn? Hmmm... I think it's just a bit beyond me right now; computer programming-type labguages have never been my strong point, I barely cope with normal wiki editing, let alone this sort of complicated stuff. --SilverWings 09:42, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T09:42:00.000Z","author":"SilverWings","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:42:00.000Z-Longhair-2006-01-04T09:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2006-01-04T10:44:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:42:00.000Z","c-Longhair-2006-01-04T10:46:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll put it on my todo list. Look about for some other examples in use here and let me know what format you like. :) -- Longhair 10:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T10:44:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Longhair-2006-01-04T10:44:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I've also re-positioned the image at Sarah Jayne Vercoe to the left rather than shoved under the template at right. How's that look? -- Longhair 10:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Longhair-2006-01-04T10:46:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-SilverWings-2006-01-04T11:41:00.000Z-Longhair-2006-01-04T10:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Actually, that's much better and may make the alteration to the template less necessary; thanks! I'll do the same later on with my new Karen Louise Ellis article. I hope I didn't offend you with my comments about the template... I might still have a look around and see what other styles of that sort of template have been used. Thanks for being so constructive! --SilverWings 11:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T11:41:00.000Z","author":"SilverWings","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-SilverWings-2006-01-04T11:41:00.000Z-Longhair-2006-01-04T10:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Longhair-2006-01-04T11:44:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T11:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

No offence taken here. We like to assume good faith :). Like I said, that template I like to use, but it still bugs me when it comes to postioning. It's got a lot to say, but why does it have to take up so much room. I'll get to it :) -- Longhair 11:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T11:44:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Longhair-2006-01-04T11:44:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T11:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• I too find the template's positioning awkward given its size. I am currently working on Arthur Upfield and the associated Murchison Murders. I have found an illustration. For the moment I will employ the placement solution as per Sarah Jayne Vercoe, but I really think the template needs to go at the bottom of articles. Given Longhair's support for the change, if he hasn't had a chance to work on, then I will.--A Y Arktos 20:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-15T20:13:00.000Z","author":"AYArktos","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AYArktos-2006-01-15T20:13:00.000Z-SilverWings-2006-01-04T09:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"A Y Arktos"}}-->

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Draft replacement

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based on Template:Australian Flags

Part of the series on Crime in Australia
Regional crime:	Timeline | Melbourne | Northern Territory | Western Australia | Sydney
Australian law:	Courts | Criminal law | Law enforcement
Australian people:	Bushrangers | Convicts | Criminals | Murderers | Prisoners
Australian prisons:	ACT | NSW | NT | QLD | SA | TAS | VIC | WA
International:	Crime by country

Intended to go on the bottom of relevant pages. Any comments?--A Y Arktos 20:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-15T20:46:00.000Z","author":"AYArktos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AYArktos-2006-01-15T20:46:00.000Z-Draft_replacement","replies":["c-Longhair-2006-01-15T21:27:00.000Z-AYArktos-2006-01-15T20:46:00.000Z","c-Cyberjunkie-2006-01-16T09:20:00.000Z-AYArktos-2006-01-15T20:46:00.000Z"],"displayName":"A Y Arktos"}}-->

It'll fix the alignment problem, and get the same message across. Well done. This template (or footer as it's now become) has my vote. -- Longhair 21:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-15T21:27:00.000Z","author":"Longhair","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Longhair-2006-01-15T21:27:00.000Z-AYArktos-2006-01-15T20:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-AYArktos-2006-01-16T08:40:00.000Z-Longhair-2006-01-15T21:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

I have now replaced the template and updated linked pages. Not sure what anybody wants to do about the cut down templates ont the same theme.--A Y Arktos 08:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-16T08:40:00.000Z","author":"AYArktos","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AYArktos-2006-01-16T08:40:00.000Z-Longhair-2006-01-15T21:27:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"A Y Arktos"}}-->

This is much better. Great work! cj | talk 09:20, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-16T09:20:00.000Z","author":"Cyberjunkie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cyberjunkie-2006-01-16T09:20:00.000Z-AYArktos-2006-01-15T20:46:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"cj"}}-->

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Drawing attention to the Talk:Crime in Australia page

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I've just added a comment on that talk page here in an attempt to start a discussion about the restructuring of all of the Crime in Australia-related articles. I certainly don't have the time or means to change every article, but I would like to see a more useful structure and less opportunity for the articles to quickly become irrelevant. I don't have a good handle on the use of this kind of template, or categories, yet, but am thinking that editors involved with them may have some useful views on the topic too? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 10:27, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-27T10:27:00.000Z","author":"Laterthanyouthink","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Laterthanyouthink-2019-01-27T10:27:00.000Z-Drawing_attention_to_the_Talk:Crime_in_Australia_page","replies":[]}}-->