Template talk:華人/中國諾貝爾獎獲得者

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达赖不是华人吗?

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华人仅指汉族吗?还是包括藏族?-古代外交 (留言) 2009年1月15日 (四) 23:14 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-01-15T23:14:00.000Z","author":"\u53e4\u4ee3\u5916\u4ea4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u53e4\u4ee3\u5916\u4ea4-2009-01-15T23:14:00.000Z-\u8fbe\u8d56\u4e0d\u662f\u534e\u4eba\u5417\uff1f","replies":["c-Hongyuhei-2009-06-16T13:00:00.000Z-\u53e4\u4ee3\u5916\u4ea4-2009-01-15T23:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

华人一般指汉族--Hongyuhei (留言) 2009年6月16日 (二) 13:00 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-16T13:00:00.000Z","author":"Hongyuhei","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hongyuhei-2009-06-16T13:00:00.000Z-\u53e4\u4ee3\u5916\u4ea4-2009-01-15T23:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

把達賴喇嘛·是華人的來源提出來—Withclear (留言) 2009年10月7日 (三) 02:28 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-07T02:28:00.000Z","author":"Withclear","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Withclear-2009-10-07T02:28:00.000Z-\u8fbe\u8d56\u4e0d\u662f\u534e\u4eba\u5417\uff1f","replies":["c-Withclear-2009-10-08T02:59:00.000Z-Withclear-2009-10-07T02:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

  • 諾貝爾獎成立逾百年來只九名華人獲獎
  • 聯合[1]
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  • 中共更絕對不會提達賴喇嘛獲獎!!!—Withclear (留言) 2009年10月8日 (四) 02:59 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-08T02:59:00.000Z","author":"Withclear","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Withclear-2009-10-08T02:59:00.000Z-Withclear-2009-10-07T02:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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赛珍珠算不算?

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她曾入过中国籍。--快去救列宁 (留言) 2009年5月26日 (二) 10:28 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-26T10:28:00.000Z","author":"54fan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-54fan-2009-05-26T10:28:00.000Z-\u8d5b\u73cd\u73e0\u7b97\u4e0d\u7b97\uff1f","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5feb\u53bb\u6551\u5217\u5b81"}}-->

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楊振寧、李政道是中國藉吧

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楊振寧、李政道得獎是中國藉(china)吧,而非R.O.C.(中華民國藉),但模板的圖案掛的是R.O.C. 如確定為中國籍非中華民國藉,請更正過來。—资讯呆呆Talk 2009年7月23日 (四) 18:23 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-07-23T18:23:00.000Z","author":"Pfiesteria","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pfiesteria-2009-07-23T18:23:00.000Z-\u694a\u632f\u5be7\u3001\u674e\u653f\u9053\u662f\u4e2d\u570b\u85c9\u5427","replies":["c-Pfiesteria-2009-07-23T18:37:00.000Z-Pfiesteria-2009-07-23T18:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u8d44\u8baf\u5446\u5446"}}-->

  • 其實我也不肯定他是以啥國藉得獎,英網頁上的資料只寫china,問題是他得獎時,china已變成兩個了。(明白我的意思吧…無意戰政治)—资讯呆呆Talk 2009年7月23日 (四) 18:37 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-07-23T18:37:00.000Z","author":"Pfiesteria","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pfiesteria-2009-07-23T18:37:00.000Z-Pfiesteria-2009-07-23T18:23:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u8d44\u8baf\u5446\u5446"}}-->
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關於樓上們的問題

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李政道跟楊振寧當年去美國時,是拿中華民國護照出去,之後並沒有去進行更換,所以可以確定他們獲諾貝爾獎時是中華民國籍,當時美國所說的China也是指中華民國。

另外關於標題,華人是民族就是漢人,並不是中國人都是華人比如達賴喇嘛,他曾說他是中國人但他是藏人非華人。賽珍珠雖曾入中國籍但民族上並非華人。--ZTCRV (留言) 2009年7月28日 (二) 20:33 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-07-28T20:33:00.000Z","author":"ZTCRV","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ZTCRV-2009-07-28T20:33:00.000Z-\u95dc\u65bc\u6a13\u4e0a\u5011\u7684\u554f\u984c","replies":[]}}-->

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當初建立模板時並未考慮到少數民族問題

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問題是如果改成「中國諾貝爾獎得主」則海外華人無法列入,「中華民族諾貝爾獎得主」則十分怪異。實在很難有兩全其美的解決辦法。-Yr (留言) 2009年10月2日 (五) 04:58 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-02T04:58:00.000Z","author":"Yr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yr-2009-10-02T04:58:00.000Z-\u7576\u521d\u5efa\u7acb\u6a21\u677f\u6642\u4e26\u672a\u8003\u616e\u5230\u5c11\u6578\u6c11\u65cf\u554f\u984c","replies":[]}}-->

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我建議的華人觀

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1 一個民族的大部分都居住于中國境内,少部分居住于中國境外,那麽該民族就算華人。所以漢族、藏族、維吾爾族、蒙古族算華人,他們過半數的人口是中國公民,過去也有中國是五族共和的説法。俄羅斯族、朝鮮族、烏孜別克族、京族(其實就是越南人)不算華人,因爲他們的主體居住在國外。

2 如果一個少數民族人士出生于中國,後來加入了非祖上故國的國籍,那麽他也算華人。比如一個新疆俄羅斯族人,如果移民美國,他依舊算華人——美籍華人;如果移民其祖上故國俄羅斯,則不再算華人。理由如越南華裔。越戰期間,很多越南華人移民到西方,西方更多地把他們看作越南來的越裔,很少把他們看作華裔,也不知道他們血統其實是華裔;不過越南華人逃進中國入籍的,也就被看作是中國漢人了。 --柳漫 (留言) 2009年10月7日 (三) 22:44 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-07T22:44:00.000Z","author":"\u67f3\u6f2b","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u67f3\u6f2b-2009-10-07T22:44:00.000Z-\u6211\u5efa\u8b70\u7684\u83ef\u4eba\u89c0","replies":["c-Stevenliuyi-2010-02-06T12:14:00.000Z-\u67f3\u6f2b-2009-10-07T22:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

  • (!)意見:来源请求--Stevenliuyi (留言) 2010年2月6日 (六) 12:14 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-06T12:14:00.000Z","author":"Stevenliuyi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stevenliuyi-2010-02-06T12:14:00.000Z-\u67f3\u6f2b-2009-10-07T22:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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為什麼任意保護?

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楊振寧李政道二人都是在1960年代才加入美國籍,獲獎時並非美國國民,這在兩人的討論頁都早已有討論,為何不更正此一明顯的錯誤而要逕自保護?-Yr (留言) 2009年10月11日 (日) 11:28 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-11T11:28:00.000Z","author":"Yr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yr-2009-10-11T11:28:00.000Z-\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u4efb\u610f\u4fdd\u8b77?","replies":[]}}-->

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高锟有香港籍嗎?

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香港永久居民的資格應該不足以將香港區旗置于他的名字前。--서공·Tây Cống·セイコゥ (ㄊㄛㄦㄎ / / ) 2009年10月11日 (日) 12:11 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-11T12:11:00.000Z","author":"Betoseha","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Betoseha-2009-10-11T12:11:00.000Z-\u9ad8\u951f\u6709\u9999\u6e2f\u7c4d\u55ce\uff1f","replies":[],"displayName":"\uc11c\uacf5\u00b7T\u00e2y C\u1ed1ng\u00b7\u30bb\u30a4\u30b3\u30a5"}}-->

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达赖国籍

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原先使用的是中国国旗,我认为使用西藏流亡政府旗帜更合适。在诺贝尔奖官方网站上 Nobel Price,达赖的国籍便是Tibet,而非China。而在联合国难民署UNHCR的网站上UNHCR也可以了解到,流亡藏人去其他国家持有的即非中华人民共和国护照、也非印度护照,而是印度政府给的作用类似于护照的一种通行证。因而说达赖在获奖时是中国籍是站不住脚的。

另:关于藏人是否可以算华人的问题还望继续讨论。--Stevenliuyi (留言) 2010年2月6日 (六) 13:12 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-06T13:12:00.000Z","author":"Stevenliuyi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevenliuyi-2010-02-06T13:12:00.000Z-\u8fbe\u8d56\u56fd\u7c4d","replies":[]}}-->

藏人属于华人?这个观点有争议,说不清楚。--farm (talk) 2010年2月10日 (三) 06:52 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-10T06:52:00.000Z","author":"Farm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Farm-2010-02-10T06:52:00.000Z-\u8fbe\u8d56\u56fd\u7c4d","replies":[]}}-->

我也倾向于华人只单指汉人,藏人不属华人。但上面的讨论中还有反对意见,因此希望能够继续讨论以达成共识。--Stevenliuyi (留言) 2010年2月10日 (三) 11:24 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-10T11:24:00.000Z","author":"Stevenliuyi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevenliuyi-2010-02-10T11:24:00.000Z-\u8fbe\u8d56\u56fd\u7c4d","replies":[]}}-->

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李遠哲國籍

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李遠哲獲獎時應為美國籍,模板按原則似乎需要修正。春日クリス 敲敲 2011年4月30日 (六) 10:11 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-30T10:11:00.000Z","author":"Kasuga","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kasuga-2011-04-30T10:11:00.000Z-\u674e\u9060\u54f2\u570b\u7c4d","replies":[],"displayName":"\u6625\u65e5\u30af\u30ea\u30b9"}}-->

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建議改名「中國人及華人諾貝爾獎得主」

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對「華人」定義的爭論過於繁雜,但「中國人」和「華人」畢竟有很大重疊,如果一開始就用這名字,將兩者同時收錄,可以節省很多問題。另外,像Template:中华人民共和国诺贝尔奖获得者這個內容完全重疊的模板也就可以合併進來了,不用浪費網路空間。要叫「中國人及華人諾貝爾獎得主」「中國人及華裔諾貝爾獎得主」「中國人/華人諾貝爾獎得主」都可以。—Yr留言2017年12月12日 (二) 16:03 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-12T16:03:00.000Z","author":"Yr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yr-2017-12-12T16:03:00.000Z-\u5efa\u8b70\u6539\u540d\u300c\u4e2d\u570b\u4eba\u53ca\u83ef\u4eba\u8afe\u8c9d\u723e\u734e\u5f97\u4e3b\u300d","replies":[]}}-->

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La Tradición apostólica o Sagrada Tradición (del latín traditio, entregar, de tradere) es el concepto religioso cristiano que indica que no toda la revelación divina se describe en la Biblia, si no que también fue enseñada de la voz de Jesús y transmitida oralmente por los Apóstoles.[1]​ Según la definición de las iglesias católica y la ortodoxa; la parte de la Palabra revelada por Dios que no pasó a ser escrita en la Biblia pero que sigue viva en la Iglesia. Esa transmisi...

 

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Judgments of the Constitutional Courtof South Africa 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 vte The table below lists the judgments of the Constitutional Court of South Africa delivered in 2011. The members of the court at the start of 2011 were Chief Justice Sandile Ngcobo, Deputy Chief Justice Dikgang Moseneke, and judges Edwin Cameron, Johan Froneman, Chris Jafta, Sisi Khampepe, Mogoeng Mog...

Chinese-Taiwanese neo-noir sci-fi mystery crime filmThis article's plot summary may be too long or excessively detailed. Please help improve it by removing unnecessary details and making it more concise. (April 2023) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)The SoulTraditional Chinese緝魂Hanyu PinyinJī Hún Directed byCheng Wei-haoScreenplay byCheng Wei-hao, Jin Bailun (金百伦), Chen Yen-chi (陈彦齐)Based onYihun Youshu by Jiang BoProduced byBernard Yang (楊庭愷)St...

 

Subscription-based music streaming service TidalSearch screen of Tidal for iOS appDeveloperAspiroLaunch dateOctober 28, 2014; 9 years ago (2014-10-28)Platform(s)Windows macOS iOS Android WatchOS Tizen OS tvOS Android TV Fire TV CarPlay Android Auto Amazon AlexaStatusActiveAvailability61 countries[1]Websitewww.tidal.com Tidal (stylized in all caps) is a Norwegian-American music streaming service, launched in 2014 by Swedish public company Aspiro. Tidal is now majority...

 

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