proxies to read and change pages on the Simple English Wikipedia. If you have received a message that you are blocked from editing as an open proxy,...

deletion was to  Delete.  --Auntof6 (talk) 07:35, 15 June 2022 (UTC) Abuse by proxy (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request...

Administrators should block anonymous proxies. Open proxies are usually blocked for three years. If it is a Tor proxy, it should be blocked for a shorter...

vandalising via open proxies, is there any point in CUing the proxies? A: For a single occasion, no. If there's every day a new ongoing proxy vandal then maybe...

by the same user for a long time. Open proxies should generally be reported to the WikiProject on open proxies and blocked for the length of time they...

en:Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies This page is a soft redirect....

question has been fixed. Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 13:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC) Proxy murder (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) NonvocalScream...

an open proxy. In order to prevent the open proxy to be used again, it could be useful to find the IP address, check it for being an open proxy, and indef...

already used. Shared IP addresses such as school and company networks or proxy servers are blocked a lot for vandalism which, unfortunately, may also affect...

proxy ip here. That does not mean its an open proxy though because many isps or companies will send a group of customers through the same IP (proxy)...

would you detect if an IP is an open proxy? A:I've not had much personal experience in dealing with open proxies, but I understand the basics. It is not...

should hardblock open proxies and grant the exemption to editors who need to edit from open proxies. This reduces abuse of open proxies. Chenzw  Talk  15:10...

server has been blocked as an open proxy, you will probably need to change using another connection: in most cases, proxies are "hard blocked", which stops...

going through a proxy. So that you can see who the actual person (IP) is behind the message, as opposed to only seeing the IP of the proxy server. They are...

of the proxies. I stopped checking at 10 other proxies from two more address in the same range that can not be 100% confirmed. Another 15 proxies crossed...

belong to open proxies. - Huji reply 15:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)  Done88.198.175.78 and 12.96.164.115 are both Tor proxies, I can't find proxy information...

awful lot of reading up about checkuser, IP technology and things like proxies as well ask asking many questions showing a quick learning curve. He has...

described above. It is also possible to see if a user is editing from an open proxy. On this page, users can request some users or IPs to be checked. Good reasons...

dealing with open proxies on all Simple English WMF projects at the same time. The creation of a adminbot (proxyblocker) that'd block proxies for all sites...

rewritten. --62.12.115.34 (talk) 17:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC) Proxy checker rates this IP as a likely proxy. Darubrub (Let me know) 17:28, 6 May 2021 (UTC)  Comment:...

"very good at computers", what are open proxies? Do you know how to perform IP-range blocks? Open proxies are proxy servers (servers which people can use...

it for six months (matching the account block). There was also an open proxy used to edit his userpage, the IonusRand user page, and to vote in an RfD...

create problems for future editors by using them. Adding links to web proxies is prohibited for a similar reason. Instead, one should add a link to the...

school, and may be shared by many different people. If this school uses proxy servers, many people at different computers, or even at different schools...

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described above. It is also possible to see if a user is editing from an open proxy. On this page, users can request some users or IPs to be checked. Good reasons...

Caste-warrior stuff created by a a presumably block-evading IP editor (now proxy-banned) asilvering (talk) 04:22, 23 March 2025 (UTC) Please discuss this...

page for deletion for the reason: This article was created by Tishreen07's proxy IP for propaganda purposes. Kajmer05 (talk) 15:43, 3 April 2025 (UTC) Please...

You block an IP. No one was banned here. Those using a proxy are free to do so until that proxy is blocked. They are not banned. NonvocalScream (talk)...

candidate would be some technical experience. I mean, as in how to find a proxy of different kind, XFF, etc. Anything you might want to sum up? Thanks,...

2007 (UTC) Do you think you have sufficient knowledge of IP addresses, proxies etc to be able to fulfil this role well? Majorly (talk) 00:14, 19 September...

assistance to be very valuable in the finding of and blocking of open proxies. Good luck Brian! fr33kman talk 22:54, 12 November 2009 (UTC) Candidate's...

September 2009 (UTC) No I don't think its an issue, we block all open proxies that en blocks. If en already has it blocked then its probably kosher to...

16 July 2010 (UTC) I can safely say that User:173.79.125.141 is not a proxy, as none is detected, and it is a dynamic IP, so blocking it would only...

had a problem with an IP open proxy vandal, under what circumstances would a CU be useful to perform on an open proxy IP addy? When would it be a waste...

the same proxy as you. In other words do you have a friend that is sharing a proxy with you personally? Or are you using a public listed proxy? Feel free...

was fixed a couple mins ago by Fr33k. If this guy is a vandalizing open proxy, there can only be one punishment for him Purplebackpack89 17:58, 1 July...

an open proxy to contribute here (barring any Chinese user or other politically motivated widescale block on wikipedia in general). Open proxies should...

not quite yet. Brian has shown a willingness to actively fight vandals, proxies, and sock puppets; all good stuff, but I just don't feel that Brian has...

an open proxy. Synergy 18:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC) I did a check based on his statement, and it looks like a proxy is involved. This proxy seems to...

little more problematic than just being dynamic. It is part of the official proxy network provided by Opera ASA for use as the translator for all Opera Mini...

requirement (only 3.2 kb). 4.9k all inclusive; could use more references. Proxy server: A little too short--doesn't meet GA length requirement (only 3.3...

the time you waste will just make you suffer more there are countless proxies i can use so give me what i want and then this can end". I have requested...

are 98% open proxies. I would suggest that you immediately block any IP making these kinds of edits because they are most likely open proxies. Not every...

all images, or some of them. They can locally filter content by using a proxy server, or by setting up their web browser in a certain way. To disable...

on Wikipedia. My intent was to design a bot that can fight spambots and proxies, but I'd like to see what other things the community would like in a potential...

it looks like a few hours later he was unblocked (he came from an AOL proxy). I never suggested that we "auto-delete" everything he added. I think,...

outing/threatening to harm a user, or obviously evading a block (via sockpuppet or proxy), or if they had a very inappropriate username. Q: What would you do for...

to do is sign up for an account and after it's blocked, you use another proxy and start all over again. As said, Wikipedia is for anyone to edit. [: --S3CR3T...

an invite exemption. We share IPs of cross-wiki spambots/vandals, open proxies; you can also get help with complex admin tasks, and get second opinions...

log · SUL · CA · checkuser (log)) Griffinofwales and Mythdon are the open proxy vandals. They are trying to gain sympathy and show a need for more admins...

request came back inconclusive, showing that the IP behind Sam24 was an open proxy. On Da Punk's RFA, Comet pointed out that en:User:Punk Boi 8 is supposedly...

22:05, 2 September 2010 (UTC) Except for general proxy blocks. In that case, we are blocking the proxy, not the person.  :) Jon@talk:~$ 22:19, 2 September...

27 December 2006 (UTC) No way it will be, unless the vandal uses an open proxy. I blocked the IP for six months.-- Tdxiang 10:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)...

block them and ignore from now on. The same result goes for proxies. We all know proxies are not allowed on any wiki, but when they vandalize or edit...

large sector can't understand it, because national broadcasting was just a proxy for "available anywhere". Alternatively, it might be argued that the program...

(UTC) Ip's are usually never blocked indefinitly unless there are open proxy's and because there owners can change over time. Oysterguitarist 15:36, 18...

would possibly prevent vandal and attack pages from vandals, especially proxy vandals, and that "anyone" could still edit but that they'd just need an...

have been rejected in the past... but really... considering the level of Proxy and other vandalism, I propose that we enable Abuse Filter. Most of you...

very shortly: those parenting programs are very simple; they install a proxy server. Before the page can be accessed, it will be scanned for certain...

Okay, I've fixed the twinklewarn module (and added support for {{Blocked proxy}}, thanks Osiris). I think the script can now replace version 1. I can do...

from IPs across the world. Of course this could just be one person using a proxy, but could it possibly be a bot designed to send out a list of sites to...

months of work? Hi. Both 122.155.174.77 and 122.155.174.76 belong to open proxies (NordVPN servers in Thailand). Yes, I have used both to edit Wikipedia...

vandalises after being unblocked. IPs are rarely blocked for ever, but open proxies are. Hope that helps, if you have more questions just ask! BG7even 18:26...

longer blocks toping out at the typical 1 year max for an IP that isn't a proxy IP. And it wouldn't be the first time. His IPs have been blocked in the...

were close to the IP's that me and Cometstyles have been blocking as open proxies, which might explain this. Going back further I noticed that this IP's...

able to see the history of anons, especially in the case of static IPs, proxies etc etc. It is much easier just to have a ongoing removal of warnings over...

violations. Chenzw  Talk  03:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC) 12.106.168.180 is an open proxy. Inclusive disjunction (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks for the info;...

chat 03:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC) @DRC-B5 Depends if the IPs are open proxies. If they are, then it's almost useless. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 04:13...

addresses that obscure individual users. Usually, it has been about “open proxies” or virtual private networks (VPNs). Now, there's a new Apple service called...

thing". We don't have a proxy bot because we rarely have proxy attacks. If it become a problem, we may get a bot to block proxies. We've talked about this...

listed browser models). Opera mini browsers are likely disabled still (main proxies got blacklisted for vandalism) so maybe the main Opera, but as during all...

2007 (UTC) Do you think you have sufficient knowledge of IP addresses, proxies etc to be able to fulfil this role well? Majorly (talk) 00:13, 19 September...

people working from a proxy. I suggest banning the proxy. --S3CR3T (tell me a secret.) 02:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC) No, not proxies. Both IPs are in the same...

Strange) while another one is that of a net bar. The rest are open proxies. The open proxies have been blocked. Hopefully this will discourage the vandal....

16.112 Not a proxy - 88.105.95.54 88.105.95.54 - Constant edit war to insert ethos-nationalist views. However, the ones that are proxies are supporting...

Exert 02:23, 12 October 2010 (UTC) I believe 78.129.226.81 is an open proxy too. Hazard-SJ Talk 16:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)  Done, that is is.--Gordonrox24 | Talk...

is gone now. Chenzw  Talk  16:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC) Vandalism from LTA proxies returns as soon as protection expires. IWI (chat) 22:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)...

Majorly asked. Do you think you have sufficient knowledge of IP addresses, proxies etc to be able to fulfil this role well?--Werdan7T @ 18:50, 22 September...

The Steward will answer you if these two users are from the same IP, same proxy, same network, same country, or are they completely unrelated (see discussion...

Yes, there were some instances when I was auto-blocked on EN due to the proxying done by my ISP. 4. Do you believe decisions should ever been made on IRC...

indian vpn to access website thank you I request you to use indian vpn or proxy to visit website above is the screenshot of website visit website through...

in same range by any means. Duck-wise, clearly the same IP-hopping, open proxy editor though. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC) By...

have been used to prevent abuse, for example, from LTA editors and from proxies. I would only perform a rangeblock if there is an extended amount of abuse...

whenever an ip edits, it is checked through several proxy apis, and if it is determined to be a proxy, it is blocked. ". Now that we are on-wiki, some questions...

for open proxies? Blocking the 68.220.* range should be alright, though. Chenzw  Talk  01:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC) If he is using open proxies, then it...

misuse". Since the IP that posted here is an open proxy, in violation of a global policy (m:No open proxies) I will be blocking it locally and requesting...

set to autoblock their IPs as well as this could likely shut down the proxies most of these users are routing through. -- Creol(talk) 04:58, 6 December...

chunk of the blocks (20-25%) is covered by the increase of blocking Open proxies as policy. In most cases there was no actual vandalism there, just the...

rest were created using open proxies (now blocked). Aside from the general act of vandalism, socking, and open proxies, there is a deeper issue. Looking...

all the same vandal (with probably exceptions), that should be CUed, the proxy blocked, and all the accounts blocked (except the legit ones). Maxim(talk)...

See User:Pmelo1 (blocked on enwiki, lock pending), User:94.46.167.5 (a proxy/VPN service), and User:Demzelq (a single-purpose account, almost certainly...

Hiàn (talk) 16:22, 7 September 2019 (UTC) The article is being targeted by proxy IP vandals. Please protect for several months. Zaxxon0 (talk) 09:30, 10...

229.97 has had two unblock requests denied due to the IP being an open proxy. He/she has commented following the second decline. Would someone who understands...

made to look suspicious, it's that obvious. Is it possible to do an open proxy check, Eptalon? Archer7 - talk 22:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Support I...

puppets User:Sinofdreams shows up when he gets blocked. Probably using a proxy since he is daring us to do a checkuser on him. -Djsasso (talk) 02:19, 13...

either the same vandal had a travel to Norway, or he/she had found an open proxy on Lier Kommune network at that point (late 2007). I don't think this mandates...

diff). That said, I'm inclined to believe the person is using a bunch of proxy/VPN to hop around the world because this individual has recently been editing...

most recent IP (‎67.205.103.205) has just been globally blocked as an open proxy (I intend to block further IPs with this pattern), but we also have those...

changes should be made to this discussion. I'm making an unblock request by proxy for the above user as he doesn't seem able to do so himself. The relevant...

addresses that obscure individual users. Usually, it has been about “open proxies” or virtual private networks (VPNs). Now, there's a new Apple service called...

think you are this proxy vandal and I don't think we actually need to worry about the crazy claims he is making. He's just a proxy vandal after all. However...

expansion. 185.172.129.9 (talk) 13:10, 31 August 2024 (UTC) Note: Blocked proxy.- FusionSub (Talk page) (Contributions) 07:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)  Keep-...

will to do it. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 20:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC) Proxying for a banned or blocked editor never looks good. Soup Dish (talk) 22:37...

probably useless; with every offense, double the block time. Spambots/Open proxies isually get indefinite time blocks; I try to bring blocks of 1-6 months...

take a global block when vandalism occured in one wiki only (except Open Proxy or case of foreseen to spread at another wiki). --Rxy (talk) 11:31, 26 March...

February 2010 (UTC) Yeah, thanks for the great anti-vandalism work and proxy blocking you have done for Simple. --Bsadowski1(Talk|Changes) 05:40, 10...

was met with a revert. The IP user is now asking for an editor to make proxy edits for them on the English Wikipedia ([6]). I find this behaviour to...

Cartoonito and on this noticeboard. It appears that they're jumping IPs on proxies. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 11:20, 10 August 2022 (UTC) This guy is disabled...

an open proxy. In order to prevent the open proxy to be used again, it could be useful to find the IP address, check it for being an open proxy, and indef...

English Wikipedia (although I was recently blocked on the en wiki for open proxy but was sorted out now). I will like to revert bad edits like I recently...

My userpages have in the past been targeted by attacks and vandalism by proxies. Just as a precaution against further incidents, I ask for these indefinite...

Angela blocked "66.36.249.149" with an expiry time of indefinite (Anonymous proxy . Has been used many times for vandalism on various Wikipedias) 13:34, 3...

can no longer see IPs here on simple which would be helpfull to see open proxies. I am admin on de-wiki since many years and I was de-CU and de-Arbfor a...

address can be used for new registrations (our university computer labs use a proxy with one IP address). Thank you all for your patience. Mixtli Keep Hoping...

confident that I would do a fine job and have learned much more about IPs, proxies, etc. over the past 5+ months, I don't think that I am interested in having...

requirement for GAs (only 3,259 bytes). · Tygrrr... 15:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC) Proxy server (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) (3.3 kb)...

no longer is in the logs) has a number of accounts, operating through a proxy. Blocked the variious accounts found. Farming socks, are we? --Eptalon (talk)...

not mean they are Simple11. Once we see patterns emerge we can look for proxies. --Eptalon (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC) I would have to say add that...

The IP was glocked for being an open proxy and I explained in the warning that simple does not always get the proxies and that with GRP he makes a comment...

evasion? Cactus spiky ouch 06:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)  Done This is an open proxy, blocked again, and a global block was requested. MathXplore (talk) 07:07...

2007 (UTC) Do you think you have sufficient knowledge of IP addresses, proxies etc to be able to fulfil this role well? Majorly (talk) 00:14, 19 September...

almost anywhere else in the world. If you vandalize from a shared IP or proxy server, you may be blocked for a long time, such as a year or two. If your...

Tropical Storm Lee (2005) 18 August 2007 19 February 2008 Regular article 3 Proxy server 14 September 2007 19 February 2008 Regular article 4 Little Red Riding...

block a user for using proxy. We block the proxies they are using and give user IPBE (on request) if there is a valid reason for proxy uses, unless there...

the list, not sure what checkuser will show since he is probably using proxies. But papa johns78 showed up right after we protected the kalajan talk page...

80% support. Passes. --§ Snake311 (T + C) 01:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC) Proxy server (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) Vote possible...

personal information. I was editing from a proxy service at one point as I wanted to visit other websites through a proxy, however, I've since whitelisted Wikipedia...

SUL · CA · checkuser (log)) Would like to see if this user has either used proxies or has any sleeper accounts. Many accounts and were making the same or...

Guide to appealing blocks Blocking IP addresses Range blocks IPv6 Open proxies Global locks Banning policy Long-term abuse Standard offer Related to accounts...

Might be notable, but need a fundamental rewrite to meet inclusion, now a proxy spam page for Digicodes etc Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:39, 8 January 2021...

sure. 149.56.45.234 (talk) 12:40, 7 August 2019 (UTC)  Comment: Even spam proxy is used to delete this article Fuyuko Yukimura (talk) 08:27, 8 August 2019...

proxy since 31 May. Most of GRP's other IPs are proxies. Why aren't proxies preemptively blocked here? Our policy on open proxies says "Open proxies allow...

Paralympics, the subject-specific notability guidelines ultimately are a proxy for an article's eligibility according to GNG (i.e. if it meets subject-specific...

deletion/Requests/2022/Absolute hot Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Abuse by proxy Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Adam Ellison Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Adam...

government of the Republic of Cantonia Requests for deletion/Requests/2011/Proxy murder Requests for deletion/Requests/2011/QBasic Requests for...

Government which is the whole zhwp. This caused a lot of zhwp editors to use proxies which cause IPBE backlogs everywhere. . I understand your point but I'm...

indefinitely. Besides you can comment from your actual account instead of using a proxy? Bondhusy (talk) 06:45, 5 November 2021 (UTC) That's interesting. To clarify...

a few important redlinks that isn't linked. Squid, the most well-known proxy server has yet to be created; I will be doing this shortly. Other than that...

problematic and you are correct that ranking is not required, but it is a simple proxy for whether or not the institution is notable. Since it is not ranked, it...

all open proxies -- and yes, it's the same person. Antandrus (talk) 15:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)  (change conflict)  Yeah. They are open proxies used by...

cast "keep" votes. Additionally, there was an instance of a user getting proxy-blocked, raising concerns about the integrity of the voting process. Given...

negative vote? (since you said you asked Croatian contributor) ((is that not a proxy)) (((selective based on who you are a friend with?)))  Keep, but possibly...

observation) - Vandalism can be reported to WP:VIP and open proxies are subject to our open proxy policy, but this isn't the page for that. If all these IPs...

org/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.161.16.238 <Vermont> That’s a long-term abuser using a proxy to evade previous blocks. <Naleksuh> anything more specific? <Vermont> It...

(UTC) Administrator note: IP 202.134.13.130 has been blocked as an open proxy. Its two edits here have been on this RFD and the page it is about. -- Auntof6...

from changing pages on all WMF projects to prevent it from causing cross-wiki disruption or to enforce the policy against editing from open proxies....

access. I also know they are both exiting through AU, which may also be a proxy (since they come through Cloudflare and on VPNs). If that is the case (as...

The Aviation Tracker (talk) 13:34, 25 January 2026 (UTC) Update: Active Proxying The user The Aviation Tracker has just restored the edits of the indefinitely...

The 2nd similarity that I found is proxy revert requests around south Asian topics. The 2nd user previously made proxy revert requests (special:diff/9511013)...

2023 (UTC) Why do people block proxies. 88.110.38.249 (talk) 07:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC) Please read m:No open proxies. MathXplore (talk) 07:20, 13 September...

Confirmed - open proxy IP blocked earlier for one year. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Yes they're the same, on an open proxy. But the IP...

in same range by any means. Duck-wise, clearly the same IP-hopping, open proxy editor though. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC) By...

non-vandalized revision. It also depends on what the LTA is on; if it's a proxy, VPN, or a created user, then it should be a indefinite block. But if it's...

there. He also is very active at VIP where he reposts vandals and open proxies almost daily and in discussions on WP:AN and WP:ST. He is furthermore an...

locally and globally blocked by Vermont for cross wiki abuse and as a open proxy. Bobherry Talk My Changes 15:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC) Hi - looks like a...

using a VPN. However, as per Wikipedia’s policies, we can’t edit with proxies. Is anyone else experiencing this issue, and does anyone know how to fix...

10 April 2026 (UTC) Technically unrelated. I think there is some use of proxy/vpn here.--BRP ever 21:48, 24 April 2026 (UTC) This section was archived...

@Haumeon Just a note that they are proxies. If any Ip says anything similar, just globally report them on meta for being a proxy. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 10:58,...

currently blocked. In addition, I blocked one IP I found,that likely is an open proxy. The article itself is protected, until January 2. Eptalon (talk) 08:58...

account has been globally banned, and we ban locally every new IP (using proxies) the vandal uses. The posts are nonsene about Norwegian stew (not stew...

2025 (UTC) Unable to confirm with the data we have. Far too many IPs and proxies being used to narrow it down fr33kman 16:14, 16 November 2025 (UTC) This...

7850 chalk 7851 excitedly 7852 assured 7853 soaked 7854 negatively 7855 proxy 7856 grudge 7857 one-on-one 7858 boulder 7859 conductor 7860 toaster 7861...

few indefinitely. They just find new proxies that aren't blocked. One of the WMF global rules is "no open proxies", which all projects must block on sight...

different browsers. Haven't checked Frankthewiki yet, also need ot do a proxy check. Eptalon (talk) 09:52, 3 January 2025 (UTC) Dont you think its a bit...

quick. Then the IP was globally blocked by steward EPIC because of open proxy. Other IP addresses used by the same person has been blocked for some days...

behind that????? 14.192.209.182 (talk) 16:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC) Stop proxying to evade blocks! The block is meant for YOU, not an individual account...

Unfortunately there is a lot of IP hopping going on as well as the use of proxies which have been blocked. fr33kman 22:57, 25 May 2025 (UTC) I rechecked...

really can't say much, here. Each of the accounts used an Open Proxy. Two of the open proxies were already blocked, I blocked the other two. Eptalon (talk)...

MathXplore (talk) 03:15, 30 November 2023 (UTC) (Question) Can this IP be a proxy? ([9]) MathXplore (talk) 03:16, 30 November 2023 (UTC) No, but they are...

tea, but he did make a contribution to the debate regarding the Ukraine proxy war. And should not be deleted to appease either the Ukrainian's or the...

version. They are doing this across multiple pages, which confirms they are proxying for the banned master account. Zubarkokar (talk) 15:25, 25 January 2026...

Guide to appealing blocks Blocking IP addresses Range blocks IPv6 Open proxies Global locks Banning policy Long-term abuse Standard offer Related to accounts...

maintenance tags to the article but now the author and an IP (please also check proxy checker results) are repeating tag removal. How can we keep the maintenance...

(UTC) Not an LTA that I recognise but I have blocked the IP as an open proxy. --Ferien (talk) 15:35, 9 August 2023 (UTC) User Special:Contributions/69...

it, but based on what happened at En. yesterday, they're hiding behind proxies so are a bit of a moving target. CountryANDWestern (talk) 15:04, 11 November...