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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gaelic games/Archive 2012
Would any of the following be considered notable for their Gaelic football or hurling activities?
Alan Coomey
Brian Currane
Brian Shortall
Cathal Corr
Cian Quigley
David Stynes
Derek Mulligan
Diarmuid Griffin
Donal Boylan
Fearghal Purcell
Fergal Bradshaw
Joe Cunnane
John Lack O'Sullivan
Liam O'Connor (Irish footballer)
Michael Currane
Roch Hanmore
They are all included in Category:Irish players of Australian rules football but all appear to not meet WP:GNG or WP:NSPORTS for their Australian rules football exploits. Hack (talk) 08:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-11T08:31:00.000Z","author":"Hack","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hack-2012-01-11T08:31:00.000Z-Notability","replies":["c-Gnevin-2012-01-12T11:58:00.000Z-Hack-2012-01-11T08:31:00.000Z","c-DubhEire-2012-02-05T13:46:00.000Z-Hack-2012-01-11T08:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
- David Stynes,Donal Boylan , Fearghal Purcell play(ed) at Senior level so yes. Everyone else no Gnevin (talk) 11:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-12T11:58:00.000Z","author":"Gnevin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gnevin-2012-01-12T11:58:00.000Z-Hack-2012-01-11T08:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
- just picked up on a few articles listed above proposed for deletion and I cant se why they fail to meet notability reasons given for their deletion. Maybe you know the reasons for each one but it would be useful to share that with others. Can someone please oppose/support those articles listed under Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Article alerts. Thanks DubhEire (talk) 13:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-05T13:46:00.000Z","author":"DubhEire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DubhEire-2012-02-05T13:46:00.000Z-Hack-2012-01-11T08:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-BrownHairedGirl-2012-02-06T21:55:00.000Z-DubhEire-2012-02-05T13:46:00.000Z","c-Gnevin-2012-02-07T09:38:00.000Z-DubhEire-2012-02-05T13:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Surely the Aussie rule players are WP:NSPORTS notable for their role in the Ireland national Australian rules football team? I presume that international matches are the highest level of Australian rules football. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:55, 6 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-06T21:55:00.000Z","author":"BrownHairedGirl","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BrownHairedGirl-2012-02-06T21:55:00.000Z-DubhEire-2012-02-05T13:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
- Not really, the GAA has international also but like the AFL they aren't considered major. Internationals don't get a mention on Australian_rules_football Gnevin (talk) 09:38, 7 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-07T09:38:00.000Z","author":"Gnevin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gnevin-2012-02-07T09:38:00.000Z-DubhEire-2012-02-05T13:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hack-2012-02-13T12:14:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-02-07T09:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Yep, none of these articles go close to meeting WP:GNG such is the low level of their achievements. Hack (talk) 12:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-13T12:14:00.000Z","author":"Hack","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hack-2012-02-13T12:14:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-02-07T09:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Many GAA articles are now being proposed for deletion. While some are poorly sourced - I will accept some blame here, the main question is their notability. I do feel that it is important to list Junior, Intermediate, Minor, etc. if we have the data at hand. I believe these are intrinsic to understanding the GAA and Gaelic games.
Pmunited (talk) 17:24, 6 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-06T17:24:00.000Z","author":"Pmunited","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pmunited-2012-02-06T17:24:00.000Z-Articles_proposed_for_deletion","replies":["c-Gnevin-2012-02-13T13:03:00.000Z-Pmunited-2012-02-06T17:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
- List here while some shouldn't be deleted, you can't argue with the prod. Some have gone years with out RS and other issues. Gnevin (talk) 13:03, 13 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-13T13:03:00.000Z","author":"Gnevin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gnevin-2012-02-13T13:03:00.000Z-Pmunited-2012-02-06T17:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Are members of this project aware of toolserver's CleanupListing bot which lists articles in needs of attention which are within the scope of a WikiProject? This project's Cleanup List is at http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListing.php?project=Gaelic%20Games
The summary at the top of the current listing says:
This is a cleanup listing for WikiProject Gaelic Games generated on 11 February 2012, 11:01:34 UTC. Of the 5554 articles in this project 3595 or 64.7 % are marked for cleanup, with 5541 issues in total.
Article alerts shows lots of PRODs or AFDs of articles within the scope of this project. It seems to me that unless this project starts some sort of systematic cleanup, then many more deletions are likely. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:43, 12 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-12T03:43:00.000Z","author":"BrownHairedGirl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BrownHairedGirl-2012-02-12T03:43:00.000Z-Cleanup_listing","replies":["c-Teester-2012-02-12T21:14:00.000Z-BrownHairedGirl-2012-02-12T03:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
- The cleanup listing is also available broken down by category at http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListingByCat.php?project=Gaelic_games. It is worth noting that 2493 of the 5541 issues are regarding 'Persondata templates without short description parameter'. Teester (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-12T21:14:00.000Z","author":"Teester","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Teester-2012-02-12T21:14:00.000Z-BrownHairedGirl-2012-02-12T03:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gnevin-2012-02-13T09:30:00.000Z-Teester-2012-02-12T21:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
- A bot run maybe possible to sort that issue Gnevin (talk) 09:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-13T09:30:00.000Z","author":"Gnevin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gnevin-2012-02-13T09:30:00.000Z-Teester-2012-02-12T21:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Please be advised that a discussion is open on Canadian GAA on a proposed new lead paragraph. Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-26T19:33:00.000Z","author":"Laurel Lodged","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Laurel_Lodged-2012-02-26T19:33:00.000Z-Canadian_GAA","replies":[]}}-->
Category:Leinster GAA, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:44, 29 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-29T15:44:00.000Z","author":"BrownHairedGirl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BrownHairedGirl-2012-02-29T15:44:00.000Z-Category:Leinster_GAA","replies":[]}}-->
Please comment at Talk:Muskerry D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:18, 10 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-10T04:18:00.000Z","author":"Dondegroovily","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dondegroovily-2012-03-10T04:18:00.000Z-Merge_comment_needed","replies":[],"displayName":"D\u00a0O\u00a0N\u00a0D\u00a0E\u00a0groovily"}}-->
Talk:Gaelic_football#.22Gah.22 Gnevin (talk) 08:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-17T08:46:00.000Z","author":"Gnevin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:46:00.000Z-Can_you_have_a_look_please","replies":[]}}-->
What is the scope of the various county level categories like Category:Louth camogie players? Is it for people who were born in County Louth who may or may not have played camogie for Louth GAA? Or is it for people who have played camogie for Louth GAA who may or may not have been born in County Louth? While there will usually be a lot of overlap between birth place and playing place, it is not necessarily so. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:42, 24 September 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-09-24T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Laurel Lodged","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Laurel_Lodged-2012-09-24T20:42:00.000Z-Camogie_players_from_XXXX","replies":["c-Gnevin-2012-10-15T15:57:00.000Z-Laurel_Lodged-2012-09-24T20:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
- All those should be bot renamed in be X GAA Hurlers/Footballers/Camogie player Gnevin (talk) 15:57, 15 October 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-10-15T15:57:00.000Z","author":"Gnevin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gnevin-2012-10-15T15:57:00.000Z-Laurel_Lodged-2012-09-24T20:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Brocach-2012-10-15T19:29:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-10-15T15:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
- An excellent point - in my view, it should be the GAA county for which they have played, or in which they have played if they are notable club players who have not played at inter-county level. The geographical boundaries of most GAA counties map very closely, but not precisely, to current or former administrative counties, and where there is a difference in a GAA article the GAA meaning of county should take precedence. This has direct relevance to the open CFD discussion as to whether various County Derry GAA categories such as Category:Gaelic Athletic Association clubs in County Londonderry should be replaced with categories referring to County Derry, which is the only name that the GAA county has ever had. Unfortunately the discussion has to date had only a few contributors, mostly people who have engaged elsewhere in the Derry/Londonderry debates. It would be good to hear from a few new voices. Brocach (talk) 19:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-10-15T19:29:00.000Z","author":"Brocach","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Brocach-2012-10-15T19:29:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-10-15T15:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
- Located inconsistencies with two navigational boxes concerning teams from Down is anyone understands why.
- Someone might want to check why this is.
- Restored to last known good version . Gnevin (talk) 15:54, 15 October 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-10-15T15:54:00.000Z","author":"Gnevin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gnevin-2012-10-15T15:54:00.000Z-Down_navigational_box_inconsistencies","replies":[]}}-->
Category:Gaelic games governing bodies in Northern Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:13, 27 October 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-10-27T12:13:00.000Z","author":"BrownHairedGirl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BrownHairedGirl-2012-10-27T12:13:00.000Z-Category:Gaelic_games_governing_bodies_in_Northern_Ireland","replies":[]}}-->
A proposal on the use of Derry GAA naming conventions has been made at the talk page of Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Ireland-related_articles#Derry_GAA. Laurel Lodged (talk) 23:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-01T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Laurel Lodged","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Laurel_Lodged-2012-12-01T23:32:00.000Z-IMOS_proposal","replies":[]}}-->
I have rescued this from the speedy-deletion queue (he had been confused with his son Billy Joe), added a couple of references including a splendid photograph, and tidied it up a bit, but it needs more work. JohnCD (talk) 22:26, 15 December 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-15T22:26:00.000Z","author":"JohnCD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JohnCD-2012-12-15T22:26:00.000Z-Willie_Joe_Padden","replies":["c-Brocach-2012-12-23T17:46:00.000Z-JohnCD-2012-12-15T22:26:00.000Z"]}}-->
- A bit more work done, but sourcing needs to be improved. Brocach (talk) 17:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-23T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Brocach","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Brocach-2012-12-23T17:46:00.000Z-JohnCD-2012-12-15T22:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-24T02:39:00.000Z","author":"Qwyrxian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Qwyrxian-2012-12-24T02:39:00.000Z-RfC_on_the_use_of_flag_icons_for_sportspeople","replies":[]}}-->
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