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Honorifics are not allowed on Wikipedia, unless they are so commonly attached to a person's name, that it's almost impossible to find the name without honorific…

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Honorific

Honorifics are not allowed on Wikipedia, unless they are so commonly attached to a person's name, that it's almost impossible to find the name without honorific in "reliable english sources", which is not the case with Shri and Krishna, there is not even single reliable source provided where Krishna is addressed as "Shri Krishna" evenly throughout the whole source. You provided a source which just uses Shri on the title of the one of the chapters in the book once and that too not for Krishna but for Jagannatha. Also, Shri is in no way exclusive to Krishna for any of the special feats he achieved or any honour he got, to use it as honorific in infobox, similar to knighthood honorifics i.e. Lord, Sir, etc. It's used as a common honorific for many Hindu gods e.g. Shri Rama, Shri Ganesha, Shri Hari and Krishna is just one of them. It's even a common honorific for humans too. Please read WP: honorifics Hbanm (talk) 10:55, 4 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

I see your concern but I have a valid reason behind it as Shri is mostly used as a honorific prefix, but here it's denoting Lakshmi, reflecting his attribution to Radha and Rukmini, no matter they both are considered an incarnation of Lakshmi. In Hinduism, it is commonly practiced to add consort's names before the name of deity and also included in formal writings. More specifically, Shri is used here as an epithet of Lakshmi. I can also locate a TV series on the exact name Shri Krishna by Ramanand Sagar. I think this will give you a more clearer picture. Feel free to argue if you still disagree, I am always here to help you out.
Thank you, have a nice day. PhantomVorteX (Talk) 12:29, 15 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Shri before Krishna is a honorific and not Lakshmi, please provide reliable sources for your claim. Also, there is no practice in Hinduism to add consort's name before deity (Lakshmi-Narayana, Uma-Maheshwara are divine couples, not a single deity), please support your claim with reliable sources. And most importantly, you can't add it as per WP: honorific. Hbanm (talk) 15:54, 15 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Who told you that honorific is not allowed in Wikipedia? See Issac Newton, where Sir is placed as honorific in the infobox, i, then I want you to go and try to remove that honorific, because you are just saying so. See Shri#Usage which regards Shri as an epithet of Lakshmi in the very first paragraph. Sita-Ram, Gauri-Shankar is not a pair of deity but a combined form, of which I am talking about here. Be relax and just try to understand what I mean. PhantomVorteX (Talk) 11:37, 16 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Who told me? I recommend you to see WP: honorifics but I think you are not interested in reading and understanding Wikipedia guidelines and policies, it's clearly evident from your questions and arguments. Sir, Lord as a honorific can only be used when a person gets knighthood honour by government, monarchy, etc or holds any specific position to get this honour. Issac Newton got that honour, as he was knighted by Queen Anne of England in 1705, it's not a general honorific. "Shri" is a goddess in Vedas and epithet of Lakshmi and is also a general honorific, it doesn't mean that prefix "Shri" before anyone's name is goddess "Shri" and not honorific. Shri prefix before Krishna or any other god for that matter is a general honorific and not goddess "Shri", you are claiming it otherwise, provide reliable english sources for your claims. There is nothing for me to understand, Wikipedia works on reliable sources, guidelines and policies not on personal understanding. Also, Sita-Ram, Gauri-Shankar is a combined form, as per you, right? But article Krishna is for a singular deity and not a combined form, there you go. Hbanm (talk) 13:24, 16 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

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