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Hi i noticed you reverted my edit and you put that there is a reason that the fb exist, but there is this discussion that explains why I'm removing them. random numbers (talk) 18:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-04-11T18:25:00.000Z","author":"A18919","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-A18919-2010-04-11T18:25:00.000Z-Your_edit_at_the_Olympiacos_template","replies":[],"displayName":"random numbers"}}-->
Sthenel, please look at the talk page of the Greek Orthodox Church. I entered dubious|verify for all three sources that say that the Albanian National Autocephalous Church is part of the Greek Orthodox Church. Let's solve this once and forever, because as it is, the article isn't stable. --Sulmues Let's talk 21:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-01T21:13:00.000Z","author":"Sulmues","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sulmues-2010-06-01T21:13:00.000Z-Greek_Orthodox_Church","replies":[]}}-->
Your thoughts are needed here --Sulmues Let's talk 21:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-08T21:16:00.000Z","author":"Sulmues","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sulmues-2010-06-08T21:16:00.000Z-Laskarina","replies":[]}}-->
I have seen that you edited some volleyball articles. Some players articles, most of them looks outdated. I would like to improve players by country. Could you please choose a country to contribute with? Please take a look on Yekaterina Gamova, Hélia Souza, Serena Ortolani and Kenia Carcaces for a model to follow. Please can you please improve some volleyball players with infobox and some addons? References are very important. Let me know. Oscar987 22:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
I have seen that you edited some volleyball articles. Some players articles, most of them looks outdated. I would like to improve players by country. Could you please choose a country to contribute with? Please take a look on Yekaterina Gamova, Hélia Souza, Serena Ortolani and Kenia Carcaces for a model to follow. Please can you please improve some volleyball players with infobox and some addons? References are very important. Let me know. Oscar987 22:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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Because that was where I thought the location was for the 1896 Summer Olympics on the swimming events. If that was a mistake, I will remove the category. Sorry about that. Chris (talk) 21:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-04T21:09:00.000Z","author":"Miller17CU94","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Miller17CU94-2010-07-04T21:09:00.000Z-re:Piraeus","replies":["c-Miller17CU94-2010-07-04T21:13:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2010-07-04T21:09:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Chris"}}-->
The category was removed for the 2004 Summer Olympics. Sorry about that. Chris (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-04T21:13:00.000Z","author":"Miller17CU94","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Miller17CU94-2010-07-04T21:13:00.000Z-Miller17CU94-2010-07-04T21:09:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Chris"}}-->
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commons:File:Kit socks puma 2010 red.pngcommons:File:Kit socks puma 2010 white.png There you go.
I uploaded a different version of the Olympiacos kit without the Puma logo (as many people on the English Wikipedia didn't want them) and gave it a different name (_ocfph2010) so it didn't clash with the existing file (_olympiacos1011h). VEOone five12:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-31T12:19:00.000Z","author":"VEO15","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-VEO15-2010-08-31T12:19:00.000Z-Puma_socks","replies":["c-VEO15-2010-08-31T19:59:00.000Z-VEO15-2010-08-31T12:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"VEO"}}-->
The admins say that it's alright because the logos are too small to be infringing copyright but none of the members like them being on the kits. VEOone five19:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-31T19:59:00.000Z","author":"VEO15","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-VEO15-2010-08-31T19:59:00.000Z-VEO15-2010-08-31T12:19:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"VEO"}}-->
Thanks for dealing with the disruption. Seems specific editors tend to support ip disruption in a variety of articles.Alexikoua (talk) 15:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-08T15:09:00.000Z","author":"Alexikoua","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alexikoua-2010-09-08T15:09:00.000Z-Bouboulina","replies":[]}}-->
I know what it means an urban area.
In Attica there are tow urban areas (Πολεοδομικό Συγκρότημα Πειραιώς) and (Πολεοδομικό Συγκρότημα Αθηνών)
Notes:Φυτράκης Τεγόπουλος, Μπαμπινιώτης, Νομαρχία Πειραιώς, Παπυρους Μπριτανικα, There are Athens Metropolitan and Piraeus Metropolitan of Attica κτλ.
Do not repeat erroneous information. Sorry για τα Αγγλικά μου! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.107.65.171 (talk) 00:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-14T00:36:00.000Z","author":"79.107.65.171","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-79.107.65.171-2010-09-14T00:36:00.000Z-Bouboulina","replies":[]}}-->
Δεν νομίζω ότι διαφωνούμε κάπου σημαντικά απλά θα προτιμούσα να χρησιμοποιούμε τις επίσημες ονομασίες. Αν τώρα κάποιος υπουργός χάρη συντομίας ή ασχετοσύνης κτλ στο γραπτό ή προφορικό λόγο του ξεφύγει κάνα ΠΣ Αθήνας είναι διαφορετικό από το επίσημο.
Μου λες Το ΠΣ Πειραιώς δεν υφίσταται πλέον με την κυριολεκτική έννοια του όρου παρά μόνο ως μητροπολιτικό κέντρο στο πολεοδομικό συγκρότημα της Αθήνας.
Συγκεκριμένα για να μιλάμε και επίσημα-επίσημα και χωροταξικά έχουμε :
«Χωρική Ενότητα Λεκανοπεδίου / Πολεοδομικού Συγκροτήματος Αθήνας – Πειραιά»
και ποιο κάτω αναφέρει «Η Μητροπολιτική περιοχή του Πειραιά συνιστά τη Νότια Πύλη του Πολεοδομικού Συγκροτήματος του Λεκανοπεδίου»
Μέχρι στιγμής είδαμε για ΠΣ Αθηνών - Πειραιώς και μόλις τώρα ΠΣ Λεκανοπεδίου αλλά πουθενά πάλι ΠΣ Αθηνών και χρησιμοποιεί το Λεκανοπεδίου γιατί δεν θα κόλλαγε να χρησιμοποιούσε ξανά το διασπαστικό ΠΣ Αθηνων-ΠΣ Πειραιώς αλλά μια λέξη που να ικανοποιεί την ολότητα.
Λοιπόν όταν αναφερόμαστε για το λεκανοπέδιο γενικά το επίσημο είναι ΠΣ Αθηνών-Πειραιώς. Όταν αναφέρονται σε ΠΣ ΑΘηνών αναφέρονται μόνο για τον Δήμο Αθηναίων και τους όμορους δήμους της, το ίδιο και για το ΠΣ Πειραιώς πχ για πληθυσμό ή την κατασκευή ενός πάρκου από την Νομαρχία που θα δώσει «ζωή» στο ΠΣ Πειραιά ή από ποιους δήμους απαρτίζεται κτλ. Το «τέως διοίκησης πρωτευούσης» που λεγόταν δεν ξέρω τι ίσχυε τότε και ήταν καθαρά θέμα διαχείρισης και δεν είχε καμιά σχέση με τα ΠΣ αλλά είναι κάτι που έπαψε να ισχύει υπάρχει σαν ονομασία πριν 23 χρόνια, από το 1987(Π.Δ. 51/1987) λέγεται Περιφέρεια Αττικής άρα σε αυτό που λες «..το πολεοδομικό συγκρότημα ορίζεται από τον όρο της περιφέρειας πρωτευούσης και οι δήμοι που ανήκουν σε αυτή» θα έπρεπε για σένα σύμφωνα με το σήμερα να λέγεται ΠΣ Αττικής, εν πάση περιπτώσει λέγεται και με το νέο νόμο, Περιφέρεια Αττικής που σπάει σε περιφερειακές ενότητες των Αθηνών, Πειραιώς «περιλαμβάνει τους δήμους Πειραιώς, Κορυδαλλού, Νίκαιας–Αγίου Ιωάννη Ρέντη, Κερατσινίου – Δραπετσώνας και Περάματος» και Ανατολικής και Δυτικής Αττικής δηλ. όπως ήταν οι Νομαρχίες.
Για να πάμε και στην αυτοδιοίκηση στο λεκανοπέδιο πάλι η «Τοπική αυτοδιοίκηση Ά Βαθμού» είναι δύο, είναι της Αθήνας και του Πειραιά, επίσης έδρα με την επίσημη ονομασία-Περιφέρειας Αττικής(όχι Περιφέρεια Αθήνας ή Περιφέρεια Πρωτευούσης-δεν υπάρχει όπως είπαμε) είναι η Αθήνα ενώ Αποκεντρωμένη Διοίκηση Αττικής(όχι Αθήνας) είναι πάλι η Αθήνα και Αποκεντρωμένη Διοίκηση Αιγαίου είναι ο Πειραιάς και ανέλαβαν σε γενικές γραμμές τις αρμοδιότητες των παλαιών περιφερειών, 7 σε σύνολο σε όλη την Ελλάδα. Όλα αυτά ήταν για το λάθος που έγραψες «και η πόλη του Πειραιά υπάρχει ως ιστορική οντότητα για να προσδιορίζει τον Πειραιά» σαν να θέλεις να πεις ότι στην πραγματικότητα δεν διαφέρει σε τίποτα ουσιαστικά από το Περιστέρι σήμερα. Αν και δεν θα μπορούσε να ήταν το ίδιο και από άλλους παράγοντες γιατί το Περιστέρι δεν έχει αυτά που έχει ο Πειραιάς (Ιατρικός σύλλογος Πειραιώς, Φαρμακευτικός Σύλλογος Πειραιώς που είναι ξέχωρος από τον Φαρμακευτικό σύλλογος Αττικής που περιλαμβάνει Αθήνα και τους δήμους της, Δικηγορικός Σύλλογος Πειραιώς, Δικαστήρια Πειραιώς, Επιμελητήρια, Πολεοδομία, ΕΠΣΠ Πειραιώς κτλ)
Σύμφωνα πάλι με τον νέο νόμο:
...καθιερώνεται μητροπολιτική αυτοδιοίκηση σε επίπεδο περιφέρειας. Απονέμονται, πέραν των άλλων αρμοδιοτήτων που δίδονται σε όλες τις υπόλοιπες περιφέρειες της χώρας και επιπλέον αρμοδιότητες...που υπάρχουν στα δύο πολεοδομικά συγκροτήματα, Αττικής και Θεσσαλονίκης.
Ο χρόνος έναρξης των ανωτέρω αρμοδιοτήτων περιλαμβάνει και τις αντίστοιχες της μητροπολιτικής περιφέρειας Αττικής και της μητροπολιτικής ενότητας Θεσσαλονίκης της περιφέρειας Κεντρικής Μακεδονίας...
πουθενά πάλι ΠΣ Αθηνών και χρησιμοποιεί μια άλλη έννοια ΠΣ Αττικής.
Πάμε και λίγο στο Συμβούλιο της Επικρατείας(τα θέματα είναι άσχετα σχετικά με πόλεις,δήμους κτλ):
«- ΣτΕ Ολ. 3059/2009 - Ανάπλαση Βοτανικού-Παναθηναϊκός (5-1):))
«Επειδή, την απόρριψη της αιτήσεως...της αιτήσεως με χωριστές παρεμβάσεις δέκα τρεις (13), διακόσιοι ενενήντα (290) και διακόσιοι πενήντα επτά (257) κάτοικοι του πολεοδομικού συγκροτήματος Αθηνών-Πειραιώς.»
ΣτΕ Ολ. 3500/2008 - Άλλο θέμα
«Οι παρεμβαίνοντες αυτοί, υπό την αποδεικνυόμενη από τα συμβολαιογραφικά πληρεξούσια και λοιπά στοιχεία που προσκόμισαν ιδιότητα του κατοίκου του πολεοδομικού συγκροτήματος Αθηνών-Πειραιώς, μετ’εννόμου συμφέροντος....»
πουθενά πάλι ΠΣ Αθηνών που κανονικά θα μπορούσε ανετότερα να λέει ΠΣ Αθήνας και με την «βούλα» γιατί και στις 2 περιπτώσεις αναφέρεται σε χώρους μέρος των Αθηνών και μάλιστα του δήμου Αθηνών.
Όπως είδες δεν χρησιμοποίησα μόνο τον Πάπυρο Λαρουζ, Φυτράκηδες, Νομαρχίες κτλ που μπορεί να τα έχουν και λάθος και το λέω γιατί μου έχει τύχει να έχουν πολλά λάθη, για να αποδείξω το προφανές. Και επειδή είμαστε σε εγκυκλοπαίδεια θα προτιμούσα να κάνουμε χρήση των επίσημων ονομασιών και όχι με το τι νομίζει ο καθένας χωρίς να θέλω να σε προσβάλω.
Άρα μια μέση λύση είναι το Urban Athens-Piraeus
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Για τρίτη φορά πάλι δεν κατάλαβες.
1)Όλη την φλυαρία προηγουμένως με Πολεοδομίες, Δικαστήρια, νομαρχίες-ΟΤΑ, επιμελητήρια έγινε επειδή ούτε λίγο ούτε πολύ σύγκρινες μια πόλη με ένα δήμο-πόλη(Περιστερί).Άστοχη η σύγκριση όπως σου απέδειξα.
2)Δεν ζήτησα να φτιαχτεί ποτέ κάνα άρθρο ως ΠΣ Πειραιώς θα ήταν πολυτέλεια, υπάρχει βέβαια η φράση που χρησιμοποιείται αν θέλουμε να διευκρινίσουμε κάτι πολύ συγκεκριμένο γεωγραφικά και όχι γενικά και όχι από μένα αλλά από τον Τύπο κτλ.
3)Όταν λέμε για «Χωρική Ενότητα Λεκανοπεδίου/ΠΣ Αθηνών-Πειραιώς» εννοούμε ένα ΠΣ που λέγεται Αθηνών-Πειραιώς το οποίο θα μπορούσε να λέγεται όπως και λέγεται και ΠΣ Λεκανοπεδίου, τόσο ενιαίο. Τη λέξη «διασπαστικό» την χρησιμοποίησα για αυτό ακριβώς που αναφέρεσαι, στο να μην μπερδευτεί ο χ αναγνώστης που δεν γνωρίζει τι γίνεται εδώ κάτω. Πράγματι θα δω ΠΣ Αθηνών, ΠΣ Αθηνών-Πειραιώς, ΠΣ Λεκανοπεδίου, ΠΣ Αττικής αλλά δεν σημαίνει πως είναι όλα σωστά και ας χρησιμοποιούνται και από επίσημους φορείς, το σωστό, το επίσημο είναι ΠΣ Αθηνών-Πειραιώς, πως να το κάνουμε να αλλάξουμε τις επίσημες γεωγραφικά ονομασίες για να μην χτυπάει άσχημα στο μάτι ή επειδή δεν μας αρέσει ή επειδή έχει οριστεί ιστορικά επίσημα το 1936 η Περιφέρεια Πρωτευούσης (που ούτε 4 χρόνια δεν διήρκεσε ως επίσημος θεσμός) και έτσι κατά την γνώμη σου επειδή η Αθήνα απορροφά τους άλλους δήμους σαν ταχα Περιφέρεια πρωτευούσης προκύπτει το ΠΣ Πρωτευούσης δηλαδή Αθήνα άρα ΠΣ Αθηνών! Και αφού συσχετίζεις την Περιφέρεια με το ΠΣ τότε θα έπρεπε να λεγόταν ΠΣ Αττικής σήμερα σύμφωνα με την λογική σου και με τις επίσημες ονομασίες και επειδή στην Αττική είναι η Αίγινα και μέρος της Πελοποννήσου κτλ να λέγεται κάπως αλλιώς δηλ. Λεκανοπεδίου ή Αθηνών-Πειραιώς που είναι και το σωστό.
Επίσης αν επιμένεις να το πάμε με την λογική της περιφέρειας, η ΠΕΡΙΦΕΡΕΙΑΚΗ ΕΝΟΤΗΤΑ ΠΕΙΡΑΙΩΣ διαχωρίζεται από την ενότητα Αθηνών που χωρίζεται γεωγραφικά Δυτικά, Νότια, Βόρεια και Ανατολικά και την αριθμεί σε 466.065 κατοίκους αλλά όλο όλο αυτό λέγεται ΠΣ Αθηνών-Πειραιώς.
Στο ξαναλέω για να στο υπενθυμίσω, βρισκόμαστε σε εγκυκλοπαίδεια και δεν μπορούμε να χρησιμοποιούμε «αυθαίρετες» και αδόκιμες ονομασίες και πολύ περισσότερο όταν υπάρχουν οι επίσημες.--79.107.65.171 (talk) 03:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-15T03:06:00.000Z","author":"79.107.65.171","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-79.107.65.171-2010-09-15T03:06:00.000Z-Patras_Piraeus","replies":[]}}-->
Μην μπερδεύεις πρωτεύουσα, έδρες κτλ με ΠΣ, ΠΣ επίσης είναι κάτι πολύ συγκεκριμένο, στο «συμπαγές» ΠΣ Αθηνών που αναφέρεις δεν περιλαμβάνονται ούτε τα Μέγαρα, ούτε Άγιος Στέφανος, ούτε το Λαύριο, ούτε η Ελευσίνα ούτε και η Βουλιαγμένη κανονικά αυτά λέγονται περίχωρα αν θες του ΠΣ αλλά χωρίς να περικλείονται μέσα στο ευρύτερο ΠΣ.
Μην αναρωτιέσαι που τα ξέρω όλα αυτά, είναι μέσα στο επάγγελμα και αυτά γιαυτό είμαι ψείρας.(talk) 07:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.107.65.171 (talk) [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-16T07:06:00.000Z","author":"79.107.65.171","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-79.107.65.171-2010-09-16T07:06:00.000Z-Patras_Piraeus","replies":[]}}-->
Edit war
Unfortunately you have been involved in an edit war with user Pplatis (talk·contribs), using anonymous IP addresses. He and a few of his pals edit articles related to Athens (mainly about public transportation and sport clubs) and try to add unrealistic and unfounded personal views about Piraeus, Athens Metro etc. Please be patient and don't try to persuade him, it is impossible. SV1XV (talk) 18:31, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-16T18:31:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-16T18:31:00.000Z-Edit_war","replies":["c-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T03:25:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-16T18:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
Yes, this small group of greek editors (Pplatis (talk·contribs), Skgxt (talk·contribs) etc) have quite a few obsessions. First, that Piraeus is neglected in wikipedia articles in favour of Athens, while it should be treated as the centre of its own metropolitan area. Second, that people around the world should know that there is a mysterious business entity called "Athens Metro" with 3 lines and that the existence of completely separate and unrelated Attiko Metro/AMEL and ISAP companies is "a minor detail". They have already created a mess in greek Wikipedia, where they are tolerated.
The problem is that these vandals have a lot of spare time. You cannot really sort out the mess unless you have the support of an editor admin, who would semi-protect the articles and block the vandals. SV1XV (talk) 03:25, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-17T03:25:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T03:25:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-16T18:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Anyone can propose an article for deletion. There are three basic methods. Speedy deletion is for articles that are clearly inappropriate. WP:PROD is for articles that are don't meet the SD standards, but still aren't helpful to the project. The instructions are at the linked page. And WP:AFD is for deletions that require discussion.
As for the other articles, sometimes the simplest way of dealing with anon editors is to wait a few days or a week before reverting them. By then they may have lost interest and not even notice the change. But if that doesn't work let me know. The articles can be protected if necessary. Whatever the dispute, it's always a good idea to find sources to back up a position rather than just arguing about it. Will Bebacktalk19:37, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-16T19:37:00.000Z","author":"Will Beback","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Will_Beback-2010-09-16T19:37:00.000Z-PROD","replies":[]}}-->
Δεν σέβομαι το ιστορικό όταν αναπαράγεται γιατί είναι λάθος βέβαια θα μου πεις αν ρωτήσεις 10 ανθρώπους ζήτημα οι δύο να πουν αυτό που λέω εγώ αλλά η συνεχής διαιώνιση του λάθους δεν το καθιστά κάποια στιγμή και σωστό. Καλό θα ήταν λοιπόν ο κάθε συντάκτης να επιμελείται και να επεξεργάζεται άρθρα που γνωρίζει και να μην ανακατεύεται με τα πάντα και να αφήνει στους «ειδικούς» στην ησυχία τους! Όσο για την Ελληνική βικι δεν σχολιάζω μια παρέα από 5 Θεσσαλονικιοπατρινούς είναι που το έχουν κάνει τσιφλίκι τους.
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"Oh my God! The same IP user (alternatively User:Skgxt) ignores the sources and consesus, moves pages repeatedly, ignores the other users and starts edit wars. "
How old are you? You blame me for something that your are completly unsure? You have be sure for what you say in order to accuse someone. Ι want you to apologise right now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skgxt (talk • contribs) 09:52, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-17T09:52:00.000Z","author":"Skgxt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Skgxt-2010-09-17T09:52:00.000Z-How_old_are_you?","replies":["c-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T19:22:00.000Z-Skgxt-2010-09-17T09:52:00.000Z"]}}-->
There are at least two editors causing this mess, and it seems that they work together. The anonymous editor who insists in adding Piraeus in any article is Pplatis (talk·contribs), using various anonymous addresses in order to avoid being blocked for various violations of the rules. The editor obsessed with Athens Metro is Skgxt (talk·contribs). He started in greek wikipedia. Initially he made a few good and accurate edits, until he became obsessed with this Athens Metro nonsense and made a mess with most related articles there. Afterwards he discovered a new playground here, although his command of the english language and his knowledge of the proper way of performing various tasks (like renaming articles) are poor.
Unfortunately if you want to do quality work in Wikipedia and protect it from the fools and the vandals, if you work alone you are on the loosing side. It is essential that you join a Wiki Project and get to know other editors and admins there, so when things get out of hand you can rely on the assistance of admins. SV1XV (talk) 19:22, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-17T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T19:22:00.000Z-Skgxt-2010-09-17T09:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T20:22:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T19:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
OK, first of all, you have to be aware of the three revert-rule. These guys, especially Pplatis (talk·contribs), use multiple anonymous addresses in order to make you violate this rule, so you get blocked instead of them. So don't try to restore vandalism more than 2 or 3 times per day, this is a trap.
Second problem is that most regular editors are working people with families and hobbies. They cannot spend all their time protecting articles. However, the main hobby of the vandals is pushing their point of view by editing from any location they have internet access. You cannot beat them in this game. The normal procedure is to ask an admin to semi-protect an article, ie allow only editing by logged-in users. Then, if they insist in their behavior under their login name, they get blocked by the admin for a month or so and their game is over. The catch is that you need close support by an admin, and I don't know of any who would help consistently.
Their other method of operation is to tease you anonymously (see el:User_talk:Sv1xv for an example), so that you reciprocate and you risk being blocked yourself. Try to ignore their comments. SV1XV (talk) 20:22, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-17T20:22:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T20:22:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T19:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sv1xv-2010-09-19T08:05:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T20:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
Today an admin, Will Beback (talk·contribs), semi-protected ISAP so that only logged-in editors can modify it. BTW, Pplatis (talk·contribs) is already blocked on Greek Wikipedia. SV1XV (talk) 08:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-19T08:05:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-19T08:05:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-17T20:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sv1xv-2010-09-21T21:36:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-19T08:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
I exposed his identity (it is clear enough, as he refers to articles he edits as Pplatis and articles he edits using an IP address in the same anonymous message). I also replied to his anonymous allegations. It seems he is also the one behind repeated disruptive editing of article ILPAP related to line 21. He is very aggressive over rather trivial matters. SV1XV (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-21T21:36:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-21T21:36:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-19T08:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I was absent all day yesterday and it seems that I missed something. Four edits related to the allegations on WP:ANI were removed because they consisted of: "Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material". As in edit #2 I did not enter any insulting material (only facts about rail transport and the past history of Pplatis (talk·contribs)), someone else did later. SV1XV (talk) 09:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-23T09:40:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T09:40:00.000Z-How_old_are_you?","replies":["c-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T12:01:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T09:40:00.000Z"]}}-->
The comments were obliterated by an oversight admin, TFOWR (talk·contribs). They don't show in the page history. I noticed the four deletion actions in my watchlist, as I had that page watched, but I cannot see the content. SV1XV (talk) 12:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-23T12:01:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T12:01:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T09:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T18:26:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T12:01:00.000Z"]}}-->
OK, I found it, I was looking in the wrong place (archive)... It seems the oversight deleted some other discussion. SV1XV (talk) 18:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-23T18:26:00.000Z","author":"Sv1xv","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T18:26:00.000Z-Sv1xv-2010-09-23T12:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Μην γίνεσαι γραφικός και στο πρωτάθλημα του πόλο, οι επίσημες πηγές λένε ότι το πήρε ο Εθνικός, αν έχεις πηγές ότι το πήρε και ο Ολυμπιακός έχει καλώς και βάλτον δίπλα ειδάλλως με μην ζαλίζεις με 100 πράγματα.--79.107.12.248 (talk) 14:47, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-26T14:47:00.000Z","author":"79.107.12.248","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-79.107.12.248-2010-09-26T14:47:00.000Z-How_old_are_you?","replies":[]}}-->
Σορρυ για το γραφικός γιατί έχεις κανονικές πηγές αλλά για δες το αντίστοιχο [1] γιατί την πηγή δεν την έχω βάλει εγώ αλλά και δεν μαρέσει σαν πηγή «Εφημερίδες της εποχής...». Απλά το 1ο πράγμα που έχω να κάνω είναι να βρω αυτόν που το έβαλε να μας πει ποιες σε ποιες ακριβώς εφημερίδες αναφέρεται και πότε το έγραψαν (φύλο ημερομηνία κτλ).--79.107.12.248 (talk) 16:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-26T16:24:00.000Z","author":"79.107.12.248","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-79.107.12.248-2010-09-26T16:24:00.000Z-How_old_are_you?","replies":[]}}-->
I dont dispute the sources because arent as official as mine.--Pplatis (talk) 12:12, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-05T12:12:00.000Z","author":"Pplatis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pplatis-2010-10-05T12:12:00.000Z-How_old_are_you?","replies":[]}}-->
I was re-reading the recent ANI about this matter. I see that there was a suggestion to try two other avenues of dispute resolution: discuss this at Wikipedia:WikiProject Greece, and if there's no response there conduct a content RFC on one of the article talk pages. If the community can come to a consensus about this then that will make it possible to deal with edits which are against consensus. Will Bebacktalk21:39, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-05T21:39:00.000Z","author":"Will Beback","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Will_Beback-2010-10-05T21:39:00.000Z-Dispute_resolution","replies":["c-Will_Beback-2010-10-05T22:32:00.000Z-Will_Beback-2010-10-05T21:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
If the matter is clear then it shouldn't be hard to get a consensus to support it. Even a few people agreeing is sufficient to show community support for a position. That makes subsequent enforcement much simpler. Will Bebacktalk22:32, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-05T22:32:00.000Z","author":"Will Beback","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Will_Beback-2010-10-05T22:32:00.000Z-Will_Beback-2010-10-05T21:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Your work at Olympiacos F.C. article (the clean-up and the wording of the introduction) was spot on, incredible. My congrats, great job. Lynxavier (talk) 08:34, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-10T08:34:00.000Z","author":"Lynxavier","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lynxavier-2018-12-10T08:34:00.000Z-Congrats_on_your_work_at_Olympiacos_F.C.","replies":[]}}-->
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Whats your problem and remove this section and the references?--2A02:587:4413:C71:CB5:76A8:A8E7:F25D (talk) 14:56, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-26T14:56:00.000Z","author":"2A02:587:4413:C71:CB5:76A8:A8E7:F25D","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2A02:587:4413:C71:CB5:76A8:A8E7:F25D-2019-08-26T14:56:00.000Z-West_and_East_Attica","replies":["c-Sthenel-2019-08-27T20:25:00.000Z-2A02:587:4413:C71:CB5:76A8:A8E7:F25D-2019-08-26T14:56:00.000Z"]}}-->
Because the statistics of the 1991 census refer to a different administrative division, when East and West Attica included municipalities like Agia Paraskevi and Chaidari respectively, which were later incorporated in the Athens Prefecture and now in the regions of North and West Athens. On the other hand, other minicipalities such as Gerakas, were included in the Attica divisions and not in the (now) clearly delimited Athens greater area, which means that they are not considered part of Athens, but part of the rest of Attica, incorporated though in the Athens metro area, not in the urban area. Sthenel (talk) 20:25, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-27T20:25:00.000Z","author":"Sthenel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sthenel-2019-08-27T20:25:00.000Z-2A02:587:4413:C71:CB5:76A8:A8E7:F25D-2019-08-26T14:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Gerakas and other municipalities of east attica are part of Athens urban area officialy--2A02:587:4413:C71:9149:D706:451A:925E (talk) 01:47, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-29T01:47:00.000Z","author":"2A02:587:4413:C71:9149:D706:451A:925E","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2A02:587:4413:C71:9149:D706:451A:925E-2019-08-29T01:47:00.000Z-West_and_East_Attica","replies":[]}}-->
Υπάρχει ένας χρήστης ο οποίος μανιωδώς προσπαθεί να εξαφανίσει τον Πειραιά από τα λήμματα. Π.χ,γράφει: Στάδιο Καραίσκάκη (Αθήνα), ΣΕΦ(Αθήνα), Τελικός κυπέλλου κυπελλούχων 1971 στο στάδιο Καραϊσκάκη (Αθήνα),κλπ.
Το κάνει σε Αγγλική, Ελληνική, Ισπανική και Ιταλική βικιπαίδεια κυρίως. Θέλω λοιπόν να σε ρωτήσω. Συμφωνείς με αυτό? Έχεις σχέση μ' αυτό? Απάντησε ντόμπρα και καθαρά. Ελληνικά ξέρεις φαντάζομαι. --2A02:587:802E:7A00:FC06:152C:E018:42C4 (talk) 15:15, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-02T15:15:00.000Z","author":"2A02:587:802E:7A00:FC06:152C:E018:42C4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2A02:587:802E:7A00:FC06:152C:E018:42C4-2019-09-02T15:15:00.000Z-\u0395\u03c1\u03ce\u03c4\u03b7\u03c3\u03b7","replies":[]}}-->
Δεν απάντησες οπότε υποθέτω ότι συμφωνείς με όλα αυτά. Εγώ όμως φιλαράκι δεν συμφωνώ. Δεν ξέρω τι σκοπό εξυπηρετεί αυτή η τρέλα, αλλά είστε παρανοϊκοί! Το Καραϊσκάκη είναι στο Νέο Φάληρο στον Πειραιά, ο οποίος είναι ξεχωριστός δήμος, ξεχωριστή περιφερειακή ενότητα όπως λέει και ο Καλλικράτης. Δεν με νοιάζουν τα πολεοδομικά σας, αλλά δίπλα στον Ολυμπιακό και στα γήπεδά του (ΣΕΦ και Καραϊσκάκη) θα γράφει μόνο Πειραιάς. Ελπίζω να δείξεις εσύ τουλάχιστον κατανόηση.--2A02:587:8003:6800:8483:C828:9008:D137 (talk) 17:47, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-03T17:47:00.000Z","author":"2A02:587:8003:6800:8483:C828:9008:D137","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2A02:587:8003:6800:8483:C828:9008:D137-2019-09-03T17:47:00.000Z-\u0395\u03c1\u03ce\u03c4\u03b7\u03c3\u03b7","replies":["c-Sthenel-2019-10-03T11:53:00.000Z-2A02:587:8003:6800:8483:C828:9008:D137-2019-09-03T17:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
1) Piraeus is part of the Athens urban area and the capital region so yes, I agree. Since you persistently add East and West Attica in Athens, what's your problem with Piraeus? 2) Your behaviour and the way you add content, causing edit wars, are totally out of wikipedia's rules. When you change something that is widely accepted and stable in wikipedia because you don't like it and - as you said - you don't care about other opinions, will have as a result the ban of any IP you use. So, change your mind and think twice before you start edit wars. Sthenel (talk) 11:53, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-03T11:53:00.000Z","author":"Sthenel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sthenel-2019-10-03T11:53:00.000Z-2A02:587:8003:6800:8483:C828:9008:D137-2019-09-03T17:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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