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Hi, here I need your support for reference. The article that I am working on was an estate during British Raj in India. And I am current scion of this estate. I could not find any newspaper article related to it which is printed digitally, but have handwritten script from the superior princely states and British raj. What should I do in this regard? What other method is reliable to source. As I too want to upload the correct information. Tekariroyals (talk) 14:13, 16 December 2022 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221216141300","author":"Tekariroyals","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tekariroyals-20221216141300-Guidance_in_referencing","replies":[]}}-->
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Wishing you a year filled with prosperity, happiness, and good health. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 12:28, 1 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230101122800","author":"Dr.Pinsky","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr.Pinsky-20230101122800-Happy_New_Year","replies":[]}}-->
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re: International Academy of Health Sciences Informatics
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re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:International_Academy_of_Health_Sciences_Informatics
The Yearbook of Medical Informatics is a scholarly peer-reviewed scientific publication. It is independent of IAHSI which is an honorary academy of the International Medical Informatics Association. I have also added a citation to an article that appeared in Acta Informatica Medica which is another independent scholarly journal associated with the European Medical Informatics Association. I also added a citation to an article from a Chinese journal that talked briefly about this organization. I'm not sure what other type of "secondary" sources you might consider. On the page listing the current members of the IAHSI organization, I also added a few more citations to articles about several of the members. Is that the sort of thing you are looking for?
thanks
Dean Deanforrest (talk) 22:12, 9 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230109221200","author":"Deanforrest","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Deanforrest-20230109221200-re:_International_Academy_of_Health_Sciences_Informatics","replies":["c-Rusalkii-20230115004700-Deanforrest-20230109221200"]}}-->
@Deanforrest Any sources about the organization but not by it work. The Acta Informatica Medica article is great.
Regardless of whether the Yearbook of Medical Informatics is independent of IAHSI itself, it really looks like a mission-statment type document which is primarily written by an organization. If my read of that is wrong, then that works too.
Mentions that are as brief as that Chinese article I would generally not count, but it, you've added enough new sources that it makes sense to resubmit for consideration from another editor, in any case. Rusalkii (talk) 00:47, 15 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230115004700","author":"Rusalkii","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rusalkii-20230115004700-Deanforrest-20230109221200","replies":[]}}-->
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iNaturalist is user-generated and so not a reliable source.
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Hello,
my draft was rejected because I referenced iNaturalist as a source. Other articles I have created also have refences back to iNaturalist data removed as being unreliable. I wonder why this is so? Mainly because if I refences back to GBIF it is acceptable even though GBIF uses a lot of iNaturalist data. Edisstrange (talk) 04:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230112043300","author":"Edisstrange","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Edisstrange-20230112043300-iNaturalist_is_user-generated_and_so_not_a_reliable_source.","replies":["c-Edisstrange-20230113032800-Edisstrange-20230112043300"]}}-->
I have since had this explained to me by another editor. life is good ! cheers Edisstrange (talk) 03:28, 13 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230113032800","author":"Edisstrange","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Edisstrange-20230113032800-Edisstrange-20230112043300","replies":["c-Rusalkii-20230115004100-Edisstrange-20230113032800"]}}-->
Glad to hear it! Rusalkii (talk) 00:41, 15 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230115004100","author":"Rusalkii","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rusalkii-20230115004100-Edisstrange-20230113032800","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi, here I need your support for reference. The article that I am working on was an estate during British Raj in India. And I am current scion of this estate. I could not find any newspaper article related to it which is printed digitally, but have handwritten script from the superior princely states and British raj. What should I do in this regard?
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@Tekariroyals does "handwritten script" in this case means that you have access to some kind of unpublished private archive of documents? Rusalkii (talk) 01:28, 17 December 2022 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221217012800","author":"Rusalkii","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rusalkii-20221217012800-Tekariroyals-20221216141100","replies":["c-Tekariroyals-20221217074200-Rusalkii-20221217012800"]}}-->
Yes, like family details and incident occurred during the regime that was not published in newspaper but some of the other historian and the aided family have mentioned it in their books. Tekariroyals (talk) 07:42, 17 December 2022 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221217074200","author":"Tekariroyals","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tekariroyals-20221217074200-Rusalkii-20221217012800","replies":["c-Rusalkii-20230101235800-Tekariroyals-20221217074200"]}}-->
Sorry for the late reply @Tekariroyals. If it's mentioned in other historian's work, that's a great source. In general unpublished sources are not suited for Wikipedia, since other people can't verify the information (see WP:SOURCE). Rusalkii (talk) 23:58, 1 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230101235800","author":"Rusalkii","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Rusalkii-20230101235800-Tekariroyals-20221217074200","replies":["c-Tekariroyals-20230102051300-Rusalkii-20230101235800"]}}-->
So what should I do know? How to publish that unpublished source. Till the time I am working to get my source published you can approve basics information which I have submitted as it is sourced with reliable links and references.
Kindly tell me further process that I can help Wikipedia page to have correct information. Tekariroyals (talk) 05:13, 2 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230102051300","author":"Tekariroyals","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tekariroyals-20230102051300-Rusalkii-20230101235800","replies":["c-Rusalkii-20230122015300-Tekariroyals-20230102051300"]}}-->
@Tekariroyals I can't tell you how to publish it, that has nothing to do with Wikipedia. At minimum, you will want to scan them and put them up online somewhere.
Your draft will be reviewed by someone else, I generally don't re-review drafts. Rusalkii (talk) 01:53, 22 January 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230122015300","author":"Rusalkii","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Rusalkii-20230122015300-Tekariroyals-20230102051300","replies":[]}}-->
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