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Wikidata weekly summary #276

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The Signpost: 6 September 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #277

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This Month in GLAM: August 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #278

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Bernina railway

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Re this, it removed the map. What needs doing to get it back (apart from reverting your change)?.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 06:26, 21 September 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-21T06:26:00.000Z","author":"JohnBlackburne","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JohnBlackburne-2017-09-21T06:26:00.000Z-Bernina_railway","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2017-09-21T10:48:00.000Z-JohnBlackburne-2017-09-21T06:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

@JohnBlackburne: Oops, sorry, I've added it back. Cases like this where the topic crosses a border aren't supported by the Wikidata code, so it needs the maplocin to be specified for now, and I accidentally removed that along with the rest of the code. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:48, 21 September 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-21T10:48:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-09-21T10:48:00.000Z-JohnBlackburne-2017-09-21T06:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Thanks!

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Hi Mike, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh666 20:43, 22 September 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-22T20:43:00.000Z","author":"Ansh666","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ansh666-2017-09-22T20:43:00.000Z-Thanks!","replies":[],"displayName":"ansh"}}-->

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Wikidata weekly summary #279

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Template:infobox journal

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Moved to Template_talk:Infobox_journal#Links_to_DAB_pages. Mike Peel (talk) 00:40, 29 September 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-29T00:40:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-09-29T00:40:00.000Z-Template:infobox_journal","replies":[]}}-->

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RE: Maximum number of values to retrieve?

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Hi Mike, I stumbled upon your question at Module talk:WikidataIB#Maximum number of values to retrieve?. You could simply use {{wikidata}} for that, using the singular command form property:

  • {{wikidata|property|linked|edit|Q71|P17}}Switzerland Edit this on Wikidata

By default, it takes the highest ranking claims. So in this case, using the plural properties gives the same result:

  • {{wikidata|properties|linked|edit|Q71|P17}}Switzerland Edit this on Wikidata

Unless you provide the normal+ flag:

Then you can also see the effect of the singular property:

  • {{wikidata|property|linked|edit|normal+|Q71|P17}}Switzerland Edit this on Wikidata

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That's good to know, thanks! I'd prefer to keep using WikidataIB for this for now though, since it has extra parameters/functionality for infoboxes (e.g. suppressfields). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:48, 30 September 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-30T14:48:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-09-30T14:48:00.000Z-Thayts-2017-09-30T10:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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This Month in Education: September 2017

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Flowers

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Hi Mike! Did you see the desert flower? Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 14:49, 2 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-02T14:49:00.000Z","author":"Johnbod","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Johnbod-2017-10-02T14:49:00.000Z-Flowers","replies":[]}}-->

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2017

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017).

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Wikidata weekly summary #280

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Please stop your disruption

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When an RfC is started to move an infobox back to a non-Wikidata version (with so far not a lot of participation, but only you defending your Wikidata version), it is highly disruptive to scramble to migrate as many infoboxes as possible to your preferred version, making it unnecessary harder to revert to the other version if that is the decision. Edits like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hevsel_Gardens&diff=prev&oldid=803683585 this and the many others you have amde are a weak attempt to go for the "fait accompli" instead of having a decent, fundamental discussion. Please revert these edits and discuss the real issues. Fram (talk) 04:36, 4 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-04T04:36:00.000Z","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fram-2017-10-04T04:36:00.000Z-Please_stop_your_disruption","replies":[]}}-->

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Infobox World Heritage Site

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Several articles that use this template for sites in Mexico are now displaying a map of the US. Since you edited this today, I presume it is something you did. See Pinos (Zacatecas) for an example. MB 03:53, 6 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-06T03:53:00.000Z","author":"MB","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MB-2017-10-06T03:53:00.000Z-Infobox_World_Heritage_Site","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-06T11:53:00.000Z-MB-2017-10-06T03:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

@MB: It looks like this was due to vandalism that has been reverted. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:53, 6 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-06T11:53:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-06T11:53:00.000Z-MB-2017-10-06T03:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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This Month in GLAM: September 2017

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References in infoboxes

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Re: Apparently infoboxes shouldn't include references, WP:INFOBOXREF says that a footnote isn't necessary if a fact is footnoted in the main text, but references in infoboxes are permitted in general and required in certain cases. So although the edit was correct, the edit comment risks misunderstanding.

Nonetheless, thanks for fixing. As a matter of curiosity, how, exactly, does one edit a statement on wikidata? At https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1827255 I see one edit link at the very top (to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:SetLabelDescriptionAliases/Q1827255/en) for the "Label, Description, and Aliases", and one for each of the numerous interwiki link boxes at the bottom (to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:SetSiteLink/Q1827255), but can't see how to update the individual statements.

I can see how to undo your edit, but (for example) what's the URL for editing Property:P729 of item Q1827255? 37.72.175.86 (talk) 01:34, 13 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T01:34:00.000Z","author":"37.72.175.86","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-37.72.175.86-2017-10-13T01:34:00.000Z-References_in_infoboxes","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-13T02:07:00.000Z-37.72.175.86-2017-10-13T01:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

On references in infoboxes: these can be shown from Wikidata, try using {{Infobox telescope|refs=yes}} in the article, but this was changed from the default to an option recently as apparently infoboxes shouldn't include references. You're right that that's not quite right, but it's a sore point with me at the moment, sorry.
On the edit links, are you using a mobile device to edit? If so, then I think editing statements is turned off in that interface (I don't know why). Please try switching to the desktop view, and you should have edit links next to each item. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 02:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T02:07:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-13T02:07:00.000Z-37.72.175.86-2017-10-13T01:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Roller Coaster Corporation of America

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Hi Mike,

I think this is a Wikidata question, but I am really not sure, which is why I am asking you, rather than finding a relevant forum... I'm not actually sure what the appropriate forum would be.

I came across the article Roller Coaster Corporation of America. This defunct company has it's old website in the article's infobox, even though that address has been bought by someone else.

The website isn't in the infobox in the article's source. The wikidata item Q7361020 has the website, so I assume Wikipedia is pulling it from there.

The French Wikipedia also has the website, and has an "archive" link, which doesn't seem to work for me, but I have managed to find their old site on the Wayback machine. I think the French archive link was generated automatically when the link was added to the French Wikipedia

Not sure what the best thing to do is. Remove the URL from the wikidata object? Link to the (working) archive somehow from Wikidata? What do you think?

As an aside, the archive I link to above if from after the company folded... at least according to the article... but the archived text says "As the next millennium approaches", so I'm guessing it hadn't been updated for a while!

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@Yaris678: Sorry, I missed this earlier. It does look like it's being fetched from Wikidata, although that should be more clearly marked. I suspect the best thing to do is to update the URL on wikidata to the archived version, or add it as a second URL there and mark it as 'preferred' (use the little icons to the left of where you enter the URL). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 02:10, 13 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T02:10:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-13T02:10:00.000Z-Yaris678-2017-10-07T03:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yaris678-2017-10-13T20:13:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2017-10-13T02:10:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks Mike. I haven't edited Wikidata before. I've now done this. I think that option makes the most sense. Yaris678 (talk) 20:13, 13 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T20:13:00.000Z","author":"Yaris678","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yaris678-2017-10-13T20:13:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2017-10-13T02:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Wikidata infobox error

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Heya, I noticed that you made this edit to The Actor (painting) in June which is presumably what is presently causing the date-related errors in the infobox. The relevant data is on Q3041737 on Wikidata, but it looks like the template is having trouble with that. I'm not especially knowledgeable about this sort of thing, but I wanted to bring it to your attention since you might know what to do. Thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 22:45, 16 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-16T22:45:00.000Z","author":"Atvelonis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Atvelonis-2017-10-16T22:45:00.000Z-Wikidata_infobox_error","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-16T22:55:00.000Z-Atvelonis-2017-10-16T22:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Atvelonis: I've just had a look but I can't spot any errors. Are they still there, or might you have been viewing a cached version? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-16T22:55:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-16T22:55:00.000Z-Atvelonis-2017-10-16T22:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Atvelonis-2017-10-16T22:59:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2017-10-16T22:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
Ah, that would be it. Nevermind then! —Atvelonis (talk) 22:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-16T22:59:00.000Z","author":"Atvelonis","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Atvelonis-2017-10-16T22:59:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2017-10-16T22:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-16T23:12:00.000Z-Atvelonis-2017-10-16T22:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Atvelonis: Great. :) BTW, if you spot problems with wikidata infoboxes in the future, you can always locally override values as you would normally do. And I'm always happy to help debug them as needed. :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:12, 16 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-16T23:12:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-16T23:12:00.000Z-Atvelonis-2017-10-16T22:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Semiautomatic WikiData editing

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I know you've been working with WikiData for some time. Could you advise or direct me to a good resource for doing this? I'm trying to check and/or add a parameter to a template which draws from WikiData ({{Taxonbar}} for all of its 42k transclusions) and I'm unsure how to proceed. Thanks.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  17:01, 21 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-21T17:01:00.000Z","author":"Tom.Reding","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tom.Reding-2017-10-21T17:01:00.000Z-Semiautomatic_WikiData_editing","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-21T17:10:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2017-10-21T17:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Tom.Reding: I'm not too sure how to do this - most of the edits I've been making on wikidata have been manual/gamified. Perhaps have a look at d:Help:QuickStatements, or ask at d:Wikidata:Project chat. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:10, 21 October 2017 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-21T17:10:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2017-10-21T17:10:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2017-10-21T17:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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The Signpost: 23 October 2017

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