User talk:Magpie069

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September 2023

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Hello Magpie069. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Magpie069. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Magpie069|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 10:02, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230907100200","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-331dot-20230907100200-September_2023","replies":["c-Magpie069-20230907102000-331dot-20230907100200"]}}-->

What in the heavens?! I’m not being paid for editing Wikipedia what planet are you on? Magpie069 (talk) 10:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230907102000","author":"Magpie069","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Magpie069-20230907102000-331dot-20230907100200","replies":["c-331dot-20230907102600-Magpie069-20230907102000"]}}-->

You clearly have some interest in Colchester United if you have an interest in the commercial identity of the club. What is that interest? 331dot (talk) 10:26, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230907102600","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-331dot-20230907102600-Magpie069-20230907102000","replies":["c-Magpie069-20230907103500-331dot-20230907102600"]}}-->

The interest is simply to keep the information up to date and correct. The current crest that is displayed is not the official version and I am simply trying to get it updated. Perhaps you can help me with this if my approach is wrong? As you rightly say, I am a novice to editing. Magpie069 (talk) 10:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230907103500","author":"Magpie069","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Magpie069-20230907103500-331dot-20230907102600","replies":["c-331dot-20230907104900-Magpie069-20230907103500"]}}-->

Are you associated with the club in some way beyond being a fan, even if unpaid? I ask because an interest in "commercial identity" is not something I typically see from a mere fan. I am a fan of the New England Patriots and their "commercial identity" isn't a concern of mine.

Going to someone who made an edit that you disagree with or is incorrect and calling it "vandalism" is not the right path to resolving a concern. "Vandalism" has a specific meaning here, an effort to deface an article. An edit can be incorrect and not be vandalism- intent matters.

Experience is certainly not a guarantee that someone's edits will be correct, but it probably means that they are acting in good faith without bad intentions. Instead of calling something "vandalism", simply approach the other user and say "I believe your edit is incorrect or against policy for the following reasons, X, Y, Z.". 331dot (talk) 10:49, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230907104900","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-331dot-20230907104900-Magpie069-20230907103500","replies":["c-Magpie069-20230907110100-331dot-20230907104900"]}}-->

Well it's good to know the correct process for these things so thank you for explaining. And no I'm not associated with the club in question, just spotted an error and wanting to correct it! The 'commerical identity' was simply a comment to highlight the fact that the club would probably not be best pleased to see a false logo attributed to them and then used by others who will take from Wiki to use in their own media etc. I accept your 'vandalism' comment - again perhaps it was used out of context by its definition on here, but the account in question deleted a load of other updates on the article when they re-instated the false logo which was very frustrating. Magpie069 (talk) 11:01, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230907110100","author":"Magpie069","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Magpie069-20230907110100-331dot-20230907104900","replies":[]}}-->