Hello, I replied to your answer about unifight's origin.
Good evening.
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Thank you for the kind compliment - mine really were insignificant edits, so the fact that you took the time to leave me a message (and a complimentary one at that), speaks more of your character than of the value of my contribution. The more reason for me to appreciate your comment.
Thank you for the invitation.--Tetracapillactomist (talk) 17:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-17T17:54:00.000Z","author":"Tetracapillactomist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tetracapillactomist-2011-01-17T17:54:00.000Z-Kyokushin","replies":[]}}-->
About Serhiy Novikov : the Wikipedia page about him (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serhiy_Novikov), NOT MAKE by me, tells clearelly that M. Novikov is Ukrainean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Novikov). I know personnally M. Novikov very well, and I know also he is ukrainean. He fight for URSS and win Olympic Championship for URSS because at this time Ukraine was a soviet republic, not independent like now.
About M. Anton MURARU, he developp on this page (http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilizator:MURARU) the history of Unifight.
I hope it will be enough ) --Simone Nicolescot (talk) 05:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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Thank you for your advices. I will complete references.
I can not find history of Unifight in english, because I don't think that someone still write in english about this point (history).
I hope this time it will be enough. --Simone Nicolescot (talk) 20:44, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-21T20:44:00.000Z","author":"Simone Nicolescot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Simone_Nicolescot-2011-01-21T20:44:00.000Z-Sergey_Novikov_(Unifight)","replies":[]}}-->
Hello, I give you in my last edit reliable sources, verifiables about Unifight. I do not find in english, but I hope it will be enough for remove the tag about "accuracy disputed".
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I understand a circle folded is a crescent, but the calzones in my region are baked as circles, they are not folded, which is why I made the change. Silivrenion (talk) 19:57, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-15T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Silivrenion","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Silivrenion-2011-02-15T19:57:00.000Z-Calzone","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-21T13:18:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2011-02-21T13:18:00.000Z-tempus_fugit","replies":[]}}-->
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I replied to your comments at ANI but I don't think you really understand what the whole thing is about, which is understandable because if its length. --Kumioko (talk) 01:39, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-22T01:39:00.000Z","author":"Kumioko","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kumioko-2011-02-22T01:39:00.000Z-I_replied_to_your_comments_at_ANI","replies":[]}}-->
Hi! Please take a look at this new article. Mikazuki Jujitsu. I don't know about jujutsu in the USA but my Google search result is this. I think it's not notable enough and should be deleted. What do you think? Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 09:18, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-29T09:18:00.000Z","author":"Oda Mari","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Oda_Mari-2011-03-29T09:18:00.000Z-Notability_problem","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-03-29T11:43:00.000Z-Oda_Mari-2011-03-29T09:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
As it stands, it looks like an advertisement. I have welcomed the user, pointed out the problems and the relevant Wiki policies. I strongly suspect an attempt to get free advertising but we must AGF and give the author a chance to remedy the problems. I don't like deleting a new authors first article without giving them every possible chance (even if the author is taking advantage of Wikipedia). jmcw (talk) 11:43, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-29T11:43:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-03-29T11:43:00.000Z-Oda_Mari-2011-03-29T09:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Oda_Mari-2011-03-29T14:33:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2011-03-29T11:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Thank you for the thoughtful dealing with a newbie and his new article. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 14:33, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-29T14:33:00.000Z","author":"Oda Mari","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Oda_Mari-2011-03-29T14:33:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2011-03-29T11:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks. I'v been busy in real life and had one too many idiots to bother fighting full time, just dipping in and fixing the odd bit now. --Natet/c08:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-17T08:22:00.000Z","author":"Nate1481","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nate1481-2011-05-17T08:22:00.000Z-re_20k","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-05-22T11:25:00.000Z-Nate1481-2011-05-17T08:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nate"}}-->
I have the same mood - waiting for some fresh energy here. jmcw (talk) 11:25, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-22T11:25:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-05-22T11:25:00.000Z-Nate1481-2011-05-17T08:22:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
For someone who claims to be only 19, this guy has an amazing sense of humour! I suggest you may want to start here, then step your way forward. Some of the funniest stuff is Australian, and Australian Military, which may mean nothing to you, but I'm fairly confident you'll get the drift. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:23, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-16T12:23:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2011-06-16T12:23:00.000Z-An_anomoly!","replies":["c-Pdfpdf-2011-06-17T01:52:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-06-16T12:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hmmm. Maybe he's serious. (Hard to tell.) Pdfpdf (talk) 01:52, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-17T01:52:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2011-06-17T01:52:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-06-16T12:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-06-17T06:43:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-06-17T01:52:00.000Z"]}}-->
Serious with a sense of humour - could be devastating! At least more interesting than the run-of-the-mill wiki lawyers here. jmcw (talk) 06:43, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-17T06:43:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-06-17T06:43:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-06-17T01:52:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
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When Australia elected a socialist govt in the 1970s, we got rid of knighthoods, but in name only. The knighthood was replaced by Companion of the Order of Australia (AC). To date, only one person has been naughty enough to need to "resign from the Order" - Richard Pratt (Australian businessman).
For 50 years (until he died), and while he was making his squillions, and giving lots of it away, he was living (in luxury) in Melbourne and was married to, and having children with Jeanne Pratt. Jeanne was also giving away millions, and was awarded an AC in her own right. (Isn't that sweet? Matching medals on the mantlepiece!)
However, when Dick visited Sydney, he also had a "bit on the side", (also referred to as "his long-term mistress"), and had a daughter with her, too.
This gossip column from 2005 is delightfully titled "Space invaders", and made me laugh out loud.
Translations:
The smh is Sydney's highly respectable daily broadsheet - NOT owned by Murdoch, much to Murdoch's disgust (and at one time, envy.)
Ita Buttrose, best known for publishing Australia's first nude male centrefold, is an Australian icon with a lisp who is now VERY respectable.
Gosford is one of Sydney's "low rent" areas - no, I'm not talking about housing prices.
The Entrance, not far from Gosford, "has been a very popular holiday destination for many people"
The follow-on-saga of the 35-y-o bimbo not-quite marrying the very rich 65-year-old is also amusing: [1], [2]: "Buttrose has two children. Nassibian first came to Australia in the late '60s with a tribe of kids. The eldest is thought to about the same age as his new fiancee.", [3], 2008 update. (FYI, Catalina is a very expensive Sydney restaurant, not the island - that would probably have been cheaper.)
I really need to get a life. Pdfpdf (talk) 14:23, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-18T14:23:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2011-06-18T14:23:00.000Z-Naughty_boys_and_decorative_girls_...","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-06-20T10:29:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-06-18T14:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
Well, it is a bit of bother - getting to a position where you could fix the price of something, making the billions, finding a suitable young mistress, dealing with press and police, etc. Henry David Thoreau: "A man is richest who's pleasures are cheapest." jmcw (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-20T10:29:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-06-20T10:29:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-06-18T14:23:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Please don't take my comments on User talk:Pdfpdf the wrong way. I've edited with him as well (prhaps moreso) and he has my respect as I also suspect he has yours. It is my belief that he was feeling WP burnout and, having failed to retire from the project, ended up making mistakes (see here, for example) which resulted in him being pushed out. It was in response to this and, particularly, the ongoing criticism of his conduct after he'd gone, that I added my comments. (Is that a case of flogging a dead horse or kicking a man when he's down?) If you want to open an ANI or RFC over his blocking, though, please feel free and, if you let me know, I'll be happy to add my opinion of Pdfpdf. However please also keep in mind that (a) Pdfpdf is gone and he's already said he's glad of it, and (b) as in his editing, he's more than capable of standing up for himself. LordVetinari13:31, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-22T13:31:00.000Z","author":"LordVetinari","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LordVetinari-2011-06-22T13:31:00.000Z-Pdfpdf","replies":["c-182.239.211.104-2011-06-22T15:00:00.000Z-LordVetinari-2011-06-22T13:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Lord"}}-->
Thanks M'Lord, but to mis-quote someone from the 19th Century, (can't remember who off the top of my head, and too lazy and not sufficiently motivated to look it up), "reports of my demise are exaggerated". I'm still undecided as to how much I care, and as to what it is I care about.
Also, I want to emphasise that I am highly appreciative of any and all support coming in my direction.
I am highly flattered by your assessment of my abilities, but that doesn't mean that I want to do it all by myself.
Please don't feel I'm criticising you - that's not at all the message I'm trying to communicate.
What I'm trying to say is that (independent of what I make up my mind to do or not do) I appreciate, and will willingly accept, all of the (sane) help I can get.
Thank you both for your support. 182.239.211.104 (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-22T15:00:00.000Z","author":"182.239.211.104","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-182.239.211.104-2011-06-22T15:00:00.000Z-LordVetinari-2011-06-22T13:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I couldn't make up my mind whether I should choose a subject of:
Well, wonders never cease.
or
I'm back - be afraid. Be very afraid.
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I am glad to see that you are rehabilitated. Welcome back to the asylum! As expected, nothing has changed while you were away. jmcw (talk) 12:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-12T12:59:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T12:59:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T12:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T13:22:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T12:59:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
LOL! Glad to see that your sense of humour is undiminished. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:22, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-12T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T13:22:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T12:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T13:26:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T13:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
And watch what you point your camera at - spend more time at a beach where there are decorative girls. And stay out of wiki trouble! jmcw (talk) 13:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-12T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T13:26:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T13:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T13:35:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T13:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Come on. Be fair. No one on WP accuses me of being a "dirty old man". If I were to take my camera to the beach ... Pdfpdf (talk) 13:35, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-12T13:35:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T13:35:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T13:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T13:40:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T13:35:00.000Z"]}}-->
At least there would be no long, silly, tedious discussions about copyright. (I think) jmcw (talk) 13:40, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-12T13:40:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-08-12T13:40:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-08-12T13:35:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Hi Jmcw. Were you planning to reply any more to the recent discussion on Talk:Oom_Yung_Doe? Subverdor (talk) 02:45, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-27T02:45:00.000Z","author":"Subverdor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Subverdor-2011-08-27T02:45:00.000Z-Oom_Yung_Doe","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-08-29T18:13:00.000Z-Subverdor-2011-08-27T02:45:00.000Z"]}}-->
Is there something I have left unclear? jmcw (talk) 18:13, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-29T18:13:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-08-29T18:13:00.000Z-Subverdor-2011-08-27T02:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Subverdor-2011-08-30T02:02:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2011-08-29T18:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
I'll take that as a "no." :-) Subverdor (talk) 02:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-30T02:02:00.000Z","author":"Subverdor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Subverdor-2011-08-30T02:02:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2011-08-29T18:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Review discussion in Genbukan before removing tags without adding to discussion, plesae. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.170.99 (talk) 04:10, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-31T04:10:00.000Z","author":"186.176.170.99","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-186.176.170.99-2011-08-31T04:10:00.000Z-Gebukan","replies":[]}}-->
Issues _have_ been addressed.
Please read discusion on the Genbukan page and comment on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.204.200.18 (talk) 21:39, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-31T21:39:00.000Z","author":"201.204.200.18","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-201.204.200.18-2011-08-31T21:39:00.000Z-Gebukan","replies":[]}}-->
You know: instead of just adding tags without reading you could contribute to Genbukans talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.107.45 (talk) 01:12, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-06T01:12:00.000Z","author":"186.176.107.45","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-186.176.107.45-2011-09-06T01:12:00.000Z-Gebukan","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks for the note: can't edit right now. To busy to do Wiki! cheers.
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Just saw that article was deleted already so nothing to edit right now. Maybe one day if I find the time. Thnks. --Crio de la Paz (talk) 02:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-27T02:48:00.000Z","author":"Crio","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Crio-2011-09-27T02:48:00.000Z-Gebukan","replies":[],"displayName":"Crio de la Paz"}}-->
What is an RFA? Not a clue. LOL!
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WP:RFA: "Requests for adminship (RfA) is the process by which the Wikipedia community decides who will become administrators (also known as admins or sysops)." I was not accepted as a member of the club<G>. jmcw (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-27T08:27:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-09-27T08:27:00.000Z-Crio-2011-09-27T02:49:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
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First, I appreciate the various points you've made regarding dead links, etc. However, you just deleted several fixes on the To-Shin Do page, after I spent hours correcting things. I am a member of the Martial Arts Portal, and I've worked on several articles spanning Korean and Japanese arts. But I've never had issues like the kind I'm experiencing with your redactions.
Furthermore, I am not clear on what your objections are.
A) The Black Belt feature article talks about the founding of To-Shin Do. Yet you continue to say the article is only about Hayes.
B) Primary Sources are permitted in Contemporary Articles, especially when the source is being used to show a public position by the article's topic.
C) The Crudelli citation is about To-Shin Do and explicitly differentiates it from Bujinkan. I even typed the whole paragraph, which you erased.
''"To-Shin Do
Explanation: "The way of mental sharpness" in Japanese
Date of origin: 1996
Founder: Stephen K. Hayes
Place of origin: USA
To-Shin Do was founded by legendary US ninja Stephen K. Hayes. The system is a departure from Ninjutsu(see pp. 208-9) as taught by the Bujinkan organization in Japan, differentiating itself by focusing on threats more likely to be encountered in modern-day life in the US. Students learn to handle surprise attacks from multiple assailants through the use of strikes, punches, kicks, grappling techniques, chokes, and joint locks. They also learn how to overcome fear and develop a psychological advantage in combat. Advanced students are offered courses in classical Japanese weapons, meditation and yoga, classes on how to instruct effectively, as well as courses aimed at the security and protection industries.
Hatsumi Tradition
Founder Stephen K. Hayes helped introduce Ninjutsu to the US and Western Europe. In fact, he and his close :friend Bud Malmstrom are credited with initiating the ninja boom of the 1980s. A former student Masaaki :Hatsumi, Hayes says that breaking away from Ninjutsu and developing To-Shin Do is the greatest tribute he can :pay to Hatsumi. Central to the ethos of Ninjutsu is the need to constantly strive to update its techniques, :making To-Shin Do the latest adapted version in the evolution of the assassins art."
The Way of the Warrior: Martial Arts and Fighting Styles from Around the World by Chris Crudelli pp.329
In closing, I have no problem fixing dead links, correcting web-only citations, or adding the paragraph into the reference to improve the article, but if you continue to erase the hours of work I'm doing I'm going to question if your edits are to improve the article are have something to do with an agenda. This is especially true after I've typed in full paragraph quotes only to have you undo them. Greenshinobi (talk) 17:37, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-28T17:37:00.000Z","author":"Greenshinobi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Greenshinobi-2011-09-28T17:37:00.000Z-Please_Stop_the_Edit_War_on_To-Shin_Do","replies":[]}}-->
You first emptied the page made by somebody else, then nominated it as void of any content[4]? lol, it doesn't work that way. The page had content, then was turned into a redirect by a second user. Neither qualifies it to be deleted as void of any content or blanked by author. Happy editing, SnowolfHow can I help?16:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-12T16:13:00.000Z","author":"Snowolf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Snowolf-2011-10-12T16:13:00.000Z-Tatsuo_Shimabuku","replies":["c-Snowolf-2011-10-19T03:51:00.000Z-Snowolf-2011-10-12T16:13:00.000Z"]}}-->
I see, and I see somebody with faster wiki-reaction times than mine has dealt with the issue. Was really confused due to the CSD reason, what you need for these kind of cases is WP:CSD#g6 / Template:Db-move, emptying the page and then nominating it as empty is really misleading. Anyway thanks for clearing it up and happy editing, SnowolfHow can I help?03:51, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-19T03:51:00.000Z","author":"Snowolf","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Snowolf-2011-10-19T03:51:00.000Z-Snowolf-2011-10-12T16:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I'm having trouble understanding why you reverted edits in which I added Category:Mixed martial arts to a variety of mixed martial arts pages:
These are all very clearly related to the overall theme of mixed martial arts, and my inclusion of these pages in this category does not diminish at all from other categories that these pages belong to. A single page can have multiple categorizations, and I have taken care to make sure that I wasn't added them to categories that they were already nested in. Of course, mixed martial arts films are not an instance/example of mixed martial arts, but no one would misunderstand this categorization to mean that. These are conceptually related pages that all fall under the same "umbrella." Please read Wikipedia:Categorization#Category organization for an explanation of the difference between "topic" and "set" categories. Saying that the boxing category is handled differently doesn't mean that is the correct way to approach this. That's not a sufficient rationale for reverting edits across a variety of related pages. Osubuckeyeguy (talk) 21:47, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-14T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Osubuckeyeguy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Osubuckeyeguy-2011-10-14T21:47:00.000Z-Mixed_martial_arts_categorization","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-10-17T08:53:00.000Z-Osubuckeyeguy-2011-10-14T21:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
In 2010 the Martial Arts Project reviewed (and improved and deleted) many articles: see Wikipedia:MAAR. We made much use of the Catscan tool [5] for searching the category tree under Martial Arts. As part of the review, we made some order in the categorization. Categories are useful when they separate things. At that time, we separated all the categories of people from all the categories of martial arts. In the category of people, we added a 'see also' to point to the martial art. In the category of martial art, we added a 'see also' to point to the people category. We also separated fiction from non-fiction and media from Martial arts. The changes I made above were to preserve this logic. I apologize if I disturbed you by not making a clear explanation. jmcw (talk) 08:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-17T08:53:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-10-17T08:53:00.000Z-Osubuckeyeguy-2011-10-14T21:47:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
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Donn Draeger's expertise on Ninja's and such things is not stablished in the article in order to use him as a source to invalidate these schools' claims or to determine who was "the last of the living ninja". How would he know? It is his POV but it is not something that can be proven (that such and such was the last of the living ninja, without going into a lot of detail on research and stuf...). I guess http://www.koryu.com/index.html is more of the kind of site or reference that _can_ be used as NPOV: true research institutes that deal with the historical ninja thing and deny the probability of a conexion between modern schools and ancient ones. This is more encyclopedic, at least this is why I think Dreager's asseveration is out of place... Cheers! --Crio de la Paz (talk) 02:33, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-26T02:33:00.000Z","author":"Crio de la paz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Crio_de_la_paz-2011-10-26T02:33:00.000Z-Donn_Draeger_on_\"Schools_of_Ninjutsu\"","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2011-10-26T08:26:00.000Z-Crio_de_la_paz-2011-10-26T02:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
I have answered at the article talk page. Best regards! jmcw (talk) 08:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-26T08:26:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2011-10-26T08:26:00.000Z-Crio_de_la_paz-2011-10-26T02:33:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
I took a litle time to review the article and tried to reword a bit of stuff. be kind to review, comment or edit.
Cheers!
--Crio de la Paz (talk) 07:13, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-27T07:13:00.000Z","author":"Crio de la paz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Crio_de_la_paz-2011-10-27T07:13:00.000Z-Donn_Draeger_on_\"Schools_of_Ninjutsu\"","replies":[]}}-->
I, Stvfetterly (talk), hereby award Jmcw37 the Black BeltBarnstar for valued contributions to WikiProject Martial Arts. Especially for continued level-headed moderation on various ninjitsu articles, great contributions to the Karate article, and other random martial arts efforts that help to make Wikipedia great.
Take it easy and enjoy! (Are you having a white Xmas? It's forecast to be in the 30sC/90sF here ... ) Best wishes for 2012. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:05, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-22T14:05:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2011-12-22T14:05:00.000Z-Merry_Xmas!","replies":["c-Pdfpdf-2012-01-31T12:15:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-12-22T14:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
"Ding" indeed! (Powering ahead, I see ... ) Pdfpdf (talk) 12:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-31T12:15:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2012-01-31T12:15:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2011-12-22T14:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi Jmcw37. I'm reverting a lot of your changes to categories related to the martial arts. There are a number of issues. In some cases, they're just badly incorrect (for instance this or this makes no sense). In other cases, you've substituted for example Category:Judo by a {{catrel}} template [6]. This is not the right choice since the subcategory will stop showing up in Category:Judo. Let me know if you need help with this. Best, Pichpich (talk) 04:18, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-26T04:18:00.000Z","author":"Pichpich","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pichpich-2011-12-26T04:18:00.000Z-Martial_arts_categories","replies":["c-Pichpich-2011-12-26T04:33:00.000Z-Pichpich-2011-12-26T04:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
Another problem seems to be your reluctance to consider topic categories as opposed to set categories (for instance your decision to remove Category:Karateka from Category:Karate). But topic categories are used routinely all over Wikipedia: this distinction is discussed in detail at Wikipedia:Categorization#Category organization. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 04:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-26T04:33:00.000Z","author":"Pichpich","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pichpich-2011-12-26T04:33:00.000Z-Pichpich-2011-12-26T04:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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There is a quote regarding some "last living ninja" on D. Draeger
Comprehensive Asian fighting arts. The whole quote would read like this:
"The late Fujita Seiko was the last of the living ninja, having served in assignments for the Imperial Government during the Taisho and Showa eras. No ninja exist today. Modern authorities such as T. Hatsumi are responsible for most research being done on ninjutsu."
Cheers!
--Crio de la Paz (talk) 16:59, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-04T16:59:00.000Z","author":"Crio de la paz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Crio_de_la_paz-2012-01-04T16:59:00.000Z-Ninpo\/Ninjutsu_D._Draeger_Quote","replies":[]}}-->
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I am not sure why you keep chopping lines of out a paragraph in the article Peter Urban (karate) but the paragraph makes very little sense when reduced in this fashion.
First off, whether you agree with the statement about Yubitsume being a samurai custom or not, that is what Peter Urban believed at the time. Now I didn't make up the story; it came from several sites including one run by Urban's daughter.
I was skeptical of the whole story until I mentioned it to my Sensei (who met Peter Urban in 2000) and apparently a finger tip was missing although not all the way up to the joint.
Perhaps we can come to a compromise. I will restore the missing lines but will leave out the word "samurai"
p.s. Kudos to all the other work you have done fixing up the Karate articles. Wikipedia is one sure fire way to get the history of Karate away from "oral tradition" (which is probably why there is so much variation in the first place) Neilrieck (talk) 01:33, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-05T01:33:00.000Z","author":"Neilrieck","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Neilrieck-2012-02-05T01:33:00.000Z-Changes_to_Peter_Urban_(karate)","replies":[]}}-->
Sorry for being such a pest.
1) When I drop the following line into a Google search box:
"peter urban" "cut off" "pinky"
... I receive approximately 1,100 hits. Now everyone knows that this test does not mean the information is accurate, just ubiquitous. I'm not say the story is true, only that it has been around for a long while.
2) Do you know of any "Peter Urban" pictures we could add to this article? I sent an official request to Urban's daughter two days ago but have not yet received a response.
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(copied from email)
I am glad you mentioned "oral tradition". Wikipedia demands academic quality references. The field of martial arts has few academic quality sources. I value the contemporary authors (like Patrick McCarthy) who footnote their material to say which senior student has passed on a story. The line of quality that I try to hold in Wikipedia is that a story should be traceable (if it cannot be academical verified). Theoretical, in the future, someone could prove or disprove a traceable story.
Therefore, for me, a club website is useless. A website edited by Urban's daughter would be a valid reference: she should be mentioned in the Wikipedia article/footnote as the source.
Thanks for your thanks - I will leave the article to your judgement.
In case you hadn't noticed yet, unfortunately I've crossed paths with yet another admin who has a god complex. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:53, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-09T10:53:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2012-03-09T10:53:00.000Z-Oh_dear_me","replies":["c-Pdfpdf-2012-03-09T10:59:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2012-03-09T10:53:00.000Z","c-Jmcw37-2012-03-09T11:07:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2012-03-09T10:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
By-the-way: Did I tell you the fighter pilot jokes?
What's the difference between god and a fighter pilot? God doesn't think s/he's a fighter pilot.
How do you tell the difference between a fighter pilot and his jet? The jet stops whining when you turn off the motor.
How do you spot a fighter pilot at a party? Don't worry! Before you leave, the fighter pilot will have made sure that you know he's a fighter pilot.
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A parachutist tried to opened his main chute - no go. He pulled the handle on his reserve - no luck. He saw someone flying up towards him - he asked "Do you know how to repair parachutes?" The man answered "No, I repair gas ovens".
Stop bothering the admins: go pick a fight with your wife. You will lose but if you humble yourself sufficiently, your wife will be content. jmcw (talk) 11:07, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-09T11:07:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2012-03-09T11:07:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2012-03-09T10:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pdfpdf-2012-03-09T11:19:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-03-09T11:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Hmmm. Very deep. I'll send you an email over the weekend. Meanwhile, enjoy yourself. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:19, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-09T11:19:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2012-03-09T11:19:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-03-09T11:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Hi, Just a heads-up that I dePRODded this article, because it has been to AfD before (in 2006)... the decision at that time was "delete", but the article apparently was re-created a year later. In any case, given the history and the amount of time that has passed, another AFD seems more appropriate. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 19:31, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-13T19:31:00.000Z","author":"Guillaume2303","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Guillaume2303-2012-03-13T19:31:00.000Z-Robert_Frager","replies":[]}}-->
I'd like to ask your opinion about Tsutomu Yukawa. I'm questioning his notability since I'm not seeing any way he passes WP:MANOTE and none of the sources seem, IMO, to show "significant" coverage. Even his short entry at http://www.aikidojournal.com/encyclopedia?entryID=790 focuses on his relationship with Morihei Ueshiba (WP:NOTINHERITED). I've come to you because we almost always disagree and I'm confident you'll find any flaws in my thinking. Thanks. Papaursa (talk) 21:59, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-13T21:59:00.000Z","author":"Papaursa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Papaursa-2012-03-13T21:59:00.000Z-Tsutomu_Yukawa","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2012-03-13T22:36:00.000Z-Papaursa-2012-03-13T21:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
That his name comes up several times in Aikido Journal and his mention in Kisshomaru Ueshiba's Aikido book gives me the feeling that he is not a light weight - he was a senior student of O-sensei. It is a close call: there appear to be many good-quality reliable sources that mention him but I have not seen an article of which he is the subject (needed for WP:BASIC). My opinion: Wikipedia would be better for keeping the article. jmcw (talk) 22:36, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-13T22:36:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2012-03-13T22:36:00.000Z-Papaursa-2012-03-13T21:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Papaursa-2012-03-13T22:47:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-03-13T22:36:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
The author and I disagree on whether these sources are "significant". However, at least for now I'm going to leave the notability tag and not put it up for AfD. As you've said before "it's not fluff." My new personal goal is to only put articles up for deletion that I think are "fluff" (a very technical term) or lack independent sources. Of course, voting on AfDs atarted by others is another matter--and we'll probably still disagree about what's fluff. Baby steps. Papaursa (talk) 22:47, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-13T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Papaursa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Papaursa-2012-03-13T22:47:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-03-13T22:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2012-03-13T22:55:00.000Z-Papaursa-2012-03-13T22:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
I was just reading through WP:GNG and was surprised by the Wikipedia definition of "Significant coverage":
"Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material.
I will never be a wiki lawyer<g>. jmcw (talk) 22:55, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-13T22:55:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2012-03-13T22:55:00.000Z-Papaursa-2012-03-13T22:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Papaursa-2012-03-13T23:06:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-03-13T22:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Then we'd have to argue about what "in detail" means, so we're really no closer in the grand scheme of things. Papaursa (talk) 23:06, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-13T23:06:00.000Z","author":"Papaursa","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Papaursa-2012-03-13T23:06:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-03-13T22:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I was on a long wiki editing vacation - just spent too much time. Coming back in a more limited way. Thanks.Peter Rehse (talk) 00:32, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-09T00:32:00.000Z","author":"PRehse","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PRehse-2012-04-09T00:32:00.000Z-Welcome_back","replies":[],"displayName":"Peter Rehse"}}-->
Thanks for your note, but I don't believe AfD is the means to "establish community consensus" unless someone is actually nominating the article for deletion (which it seems you are not). A discussion on the WPMA talk page would seem the appropriate way. There is also a time limit on AfD, which would not be the case with a regular discussion. Just a few thoughts. Janggeom (talk) 12:11, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-19T12:11:00.000Z","author":"Janggeom","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Janggeom-2012-04-19T12:11:00.000Z-Moni_Aizik_AfD","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2012-04-19T13:45:00.000Z-Janggeom-2012-04-19T12:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
I asked an admin for advice on how to handle the POI edit warring of late: they recommended taking it to AFD User_talk:Gwen_Gale#Article Moni_Aizik, so I have. jmcw (talk) 13:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-19T13:45:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2012-04-19T13:45:00.000Z-Janggeom-2012-04-19T12:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Janggeom-2012-04-20T14:30:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-04-19T13:45:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Thanks for that note. Janggeom (talk) 14:30, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-20T14:30:00.000Z","author":"Janggeom","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Janggeom-2012-04-20T14:30:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-04-19T13:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
There is a Straw Poll taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc (talk) 00:48, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-22T00:48:00.000Z","author":"GabeMc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GabeMc-2012-04-22T00:48:00.000Z-2nd_Straw_Poll","replies":["c-GabeMc-2012-04-22T06:04:00.000Z-GabeMc-2012-04-22T00:48:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2014 GabeMc"}}-->
I think I found a good solution to the template issue, take a look at the proposal now, it might satisfy everyone's concerns. — GabeMc (talk) 06:04, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-22T06:04:00.000Z","author":"GabeMc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GabeMc-2012-04-22T06:04:00.000Z-GabeMc-2012-04-22T00:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014 GabeMc"}}-->
I came across some articles on Japanese martial artists and I was wondering if you could shine any light on their notability. The artists are Motokatsu Inoue, Seiko Fujita, Manzo Iwata, Fujitani Masatoshi, and Higa Yuchoku. I'm afraid I don't have a good feel for the notability of traditional Japanese martial artists.
I also posted a question about world records and notability on the martial arts project's talk page. Papaursa (talk) 02:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-24T02:45:00.000Z","author":"Papaursa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Papaursa-2012-04-24T02:45:00.000Z-Notability_questions","replies":[]}}-->
Hi, Jmcw37, if you think pickle is really unrelated to Kimchi, feel free to delete the stuff regarding pickle with proper reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koryosaram (talk • contribs) 21:14, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-05-28T21:14:00.000Z","author":"Koryosaram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Koryosaram-2012-05-28T21:14:00.000Z-Kimchi","replies":[]}}-->
As I'd warned the editor about copyright violations before, I've blocked him for 2 weeks. By the way, you did mean COI when you wrote POI, right? The place to complain about conflict of interest is WP:COIN. I'm presuming you aren't actually a competitor. Dougweller (talk) 06:21, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-05-31T06:21:00.000Z","author":"Dougweller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dougweller-2012-05-31T06:21:00.000Z-Moni_Azik","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2012-05-31T08:36:00.000Z-Dougweller-2012-05-31T06:21:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for looking after this user. I am a bit confused: Where did I write POI? Cheers! jmcw (talk) 08:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-05-31T08:36:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2012-05-31T08:36:00.000Z-Dougweller-2012-05-31T06:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dougweller-2012-06-03T15:31:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-05-31T08:36:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Sorry that was someone else. Hope you had a good weekend. Dougweller (talk) 15:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-03T15:31:00.000Z","author":"Dougweller","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dougweller-2012-06-03T15:31:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-05-31T08:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I would have thought that the method was notable in its own right - certainly more so than many that are listed. What are your thoughts about the redirect.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:39, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-08T10:39:00.000Z","author":"PRehse","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PRehse-2012-06-08T10:39:00.000Z-Keysi_Fighting_Method","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2012-06-08T10:55:00.000Z-PRehse-2012-06-08T10:39:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Peter Rehse"}}-->
I think that its notability is due exclusively to the movie Batman Begins. The information of the article is preserved in the context of the movie series. Have I missed something in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Martial_arts/Notability#Arts_and_styles that would support its independent existence? jmcw (talk) 10:55, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-08T10:55:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2012-06-08T10:55:00.000Z-PRehse-2012-06-08T10:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-PRehse-2012-06-08T12:53:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-06-08T10:55:00.000Z","c-PRehse-2012-06-08T13:23:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-06-08T10:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Well from what I understand the Method predated the movies with about a hundred schools in Europe. The growth in US might reflect the movie but it was notable I think before that.Peter Rehse (talk) 12:53, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-08T12:53:00.000Z","author":"PRehse","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PRehse-2012-06-08T12:53:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-06-08T10:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2012-06-08T13:07:00.000Z-PRehse-2012-06-08T12:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Peter Rehse"}}-->
Then we come to reliable sources about the 98 world-wide schools. Have you seen one? If the material is in the 'Batman Begins' article, it does not need such reliable references. jmcw (talk) 13:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-08T13:07:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2012-06-08T13:07:00.000Z-PRehse-2012-06-08T12:53:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Fair enough - I notice that the original article talks about the JKD origins - only much later does it talk about the Spanish origin.Peter Rehse (talk) 13:23, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-08T13:23:00.000Z","author":"PRehse","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PRehse-2012-06-08T13:23:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2012-06-08T10:55:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Peter Rehse"}}-->
Hi This article was fixed this morning with help from an admin in IRC, but you seem to have put another tag on it, can you tell me why or help me fix it? Thank you hjc2012— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.23.149.4 (talk) 10:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-27T10:49:00.000Z","author":"92.23.149.4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-92.23.149.4-2012-06-27T10:49:00.000Z-Cheongye_Kwan","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2012-06-27T11:12:00.000Z-92.23.149.4-2012-06-27T10:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
I wanted to get the Martial Arts project archive done automatically and before I did that to have the naming consistent. Basically only one archive was showing up near the top even though there was a list of several. Now I just get one archive and I have no idea how to fix it.Peter Rehse (talk) 09:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-07-02T09:56:00.000Z","author":"PRehse","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PRehse-2012-07-02T09:56:00.000Z-Messed_Up","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2012-07-02T10:12:00.000Z-PRehse-2012-07-02T09:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Peter Rehse"}}-->
Got it! jmcw (talk) 10:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-07-02T10:12:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2012-07-02T10:12:00.000Z-PRehse-2012-07-02T09:56:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
I see that about 2 years ago, you removed my PROD on this article and suggested a merge. That merge discussion has been closed with no actions taken. I don't see notability or RS for this as an independent article and I was wondering what your current thoughts are on this article? Papaursa (talk) 20:25, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-07-07T20:25:00.000Z","author":"Papaursa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Papaursa-2012-07-07T20:25:00.000Z-Ry\u016b-te","replies":[]}}-->
There is a straw poll taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. ~ GabeMc(talk|contribs)23:14, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-07-08T23:14:00.000Z","author":"GabeMc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GabeMc-2012-07-08T23:14:00.000Z-Sgt._Pepper_straw_poll","replies":[]}}-->
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I've found a new toy, guaranteed to provide endless hours of free entertainment and cynical amusement - particularly when coupled with its associated pages! WP:NOE Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:07, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-12T10:07:00.000Z","author":"Pdfpdf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pdfpdf-2013-03-12T10:07:00.000Z-New_toy!","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2013-03-12T13:12:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2013-03-12T10:07:00.000Z"]}}-->
A few more years and I will make it on to the list<g>. jmcw (talk) 13:12, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-12T13:12:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2013-03-12T13:12:00.000Z-Pdfpdf-2013-03-12T10:07:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
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Could you please provide an idea what you'd like to see in terms of additional citations and notability for the RyuTe wiki page? I am fairly new to Wikipedia, and while I've read the general articles on both, I'm not sure what the specific concerns are in this case.
For example, it appears to me as if the notability issue has been addressed already. There are six different print references (5 books and 1 magazine article) to Seiyu Oyata listed on that page, which would seem to be sufficient to establish notability. In terms of additional citations, more are always better, but are there particular sections of the page which you're concerned with? If so, it might be easier to address if you were to provide notes either by section or by particular (missing) reference. As it stands now, I only see one instance of a particular citation being labeled as insufficient.
Thanks for the help.
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Sir,
I think that my contribution has been deleted wrongly. It was a very constructive contribution.
Poet Manik Godghate who is also known by his pen name 'Grace' is a very difficult poet to understand.Nobody in the Marathi literary world has tried to convey the meaning of his poems to the readers of his poetry. Mine is a unique contribution.Let the poet's fans know about the unknown aspect of his poetry. May I request you to restore my contribution?Shriniwas Hawaldar (talk) 12:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-20T12:11:00.000Z","author":"Shriniwas Hawaldar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shriniwas_Hawaldar-2013-03-20T12:11:00.000Z-Manik_Godghate","replies":[]}}-->
Sir,
I have posted my contribution in English as advised by you. May I add a link of Facebook also or will it be deleted?
Regards,
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Dear Sir,
I am satisfied with the the present state of my editing on Manik Godghate.[English].Marathi version people also seem to be happy on my editing of Manik Godghate.[Marathi] Hence,no basic change is proposed. Thanks for your cooperation. Shriniwas Hawaldar (talk) 17:34, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-16T17:34:00.000Z","author":"Shriniwas Hawaldar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shriniwas_Hawaldar-2013-04-16T17:34:00.000Z-Manik_Godghate_3","replies":[]}}-->
Writing the kata as Miuki-dome is a common mistake. Pascal knows this. His book had quite a few errors. The kanji is 三受止 which is read as MI UKE dome (three blocks) but honestly who cares it's wikipedia so leave it as it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ynambu (talk • contribs) 22:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-21T22:25:00.000Z","author":"Ynambu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ynambu-2013-08-21T22:25:00.000Z-Kasumi_Shinto_Ryu","replies":[]}}-->
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I sent this to an AfD debate because, and I still do, think the notability is far from clear. Still others disagree. The main contributer is certainly enthusiastic but he/she seems to have his excessiveness under control. On an unrelated note there is an interesting discussion over at Iaido about the do/jutsu distinction and a possible merger that you might be interested in.Peter Rehse (talk) 17:03, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-20T17:03:00.000Z","author":"PRehse","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PRehse-2013-11-20T17:03:00.000Z-Frank_Masser","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2013-11-20T20:40:00.000Z-PRehse-2013-11-20T17:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Peter Rehse"}}-->
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thank you for pointing out that mine was a good-faith effort. I too believe that it was, as I fully intended it to take the partisan edge off of the tenor of the article by establishing, through tacit implication, a neutral place of taking-no-preference as to whether one world-view is valid or the other or both or neither. I would aver that you may do well to reconsider your undoing of revision, per this reason: the article itself has a bias warning, and I submit to you that it should, for it is written from a perspective that presupposes that the phenomenon described is a priori evidence of a delusional state, and that must ultimately conclude as negative certain assertions about what some call "the spiritual nature" of our human experience - and this is the nature of the rift underlying the bias. let's be frank: mystics vs. logicians. my claim here is that, until a talented, skilled and fully neutral editor takes said article over, might it not be true that setting the word within its proper paradigm and acknowledging the clear bias of the technospeak that was to come might be worth the sacrifice of a small amount of simplicity?
namaste
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Thank you for your understanding. If you note my recent edits in the article and on the talk page, I see no reliable refences that justify a mention of religion (or any other philosophical system). I think the statement 'the human tendency to seek patterns in random information' is already too srong: I would prefer 'the human tendency to seek patterns in information'. I think pareidolia, conspiracy theories and gambling are better presentations of apophenia rather than divination and synchronicity. Let us adjourn to the apophenia talk page - I would like to make a proposal there. jmcw (talk) 11:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T11:15:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2013-11-26T11:15:00.000Z-Druthulhu-2013-11-26T10:53:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
This is my first foray into Wikipedia so I apologize if not adhering to protocols. I offer the following background and would certainly arrange for copies of any certificates and/or personal affadavits and statement from Riijikai as proof of these events if required.
Vic Hargitt is my sensei, and has been since 1986, and has been Chief Instructor in Canada since 2000. As offered in the edit, Vic Hargitt Sensei was examined by Toguchi Kaicho for rank of Shihan on June 13, 1997. Approx. 8 weeks after this examination and granting of Shihan, Kaicho fell ill and subsequently remained in hospital until his death on August 31, 1998.
Madame Haruko Toguchi became head of the organization, along with a committee of black belts, following Master Toguchi's passing. Vic Hargitt Sensei was given certification for the rank of Rokudan on July 19, 2004. Shortly thereafter (August 31, 2004) Madame Toguchi Kaicho took retirement as head of Shorei-Kai but remained as an advisor for some time after.
During the October 2004 meeting of the Shorei-Kai, Norihiro Yamamoto was chosen as the Kaicho to head this new organization. Also at this meeting, Masaru Nose Shihan was appointed President and remains as Kaicho to the present time.
On several occasions, Madame Toguchi and Nose Kaicho (along with 2 other senior black belts of the organization) have expressed to Vic Hargitt Sensei that he was the last person examined for the rank of Shihan by Toguchi Kaicho and, as well, the last person granted certification by Madame Toguchi Kaicho.
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So I should probably convert them back and change the founding date till when?Peter Rehse (talk) 16:00, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-18T16:00:00.000Z","author":"PRehse","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PRehse-2014-02-18T16:00:00.000Z-Mus\u014d_Shinden-ry\u016b","replies":["c-Jmcw37-2014-02-18T16:08:00.000Z-PRehse-2014-02-18T16:00:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Peter Rehse"}}-->
Draeger said that the founder Jinsuke lived from 1546-1621. That article really needs work. jmcw (talk) 16:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-18T16:08:00.000Z","author":"Jmcw37","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmcw37-2014-02-18T16:08:00.000Z-PRehse-2014-02-18T16:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-PRehse-2014-02-18T17:33:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2014-02-18T16:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"jmcw"}}-->
Well I put everything back.Peter Rehse (talk) 17:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-18T17:33:00.000Z","author":"PRehse","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PRehse-2014-02-18T17:33:00.000Z-Jmcw37-2014-02-18T16:08:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Peter Rehse"}}-->
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