User talk:Brhebert

Hello, Brhebert, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Bookstores12, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted.

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A tag has been placed on Bookstores12 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

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Hi, the specific criteria that a company needs to meet in order to be considered notable can be found at WP:CORP. Essentially, they have to have received extensive coverage in reliable sources, such as reputable newspapers, which I highly doubt they have. If you have any questions about this, feel free to post them on this page, I am watching it.--Terrillja _talk 13:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

{{helpme}}|I am trying to learn how to create articles on Wikipedia. So far, both of my articles were deleted.

While I can understand why a commercial organization such as Bookstores 12 might be removed for commercial reasons (please note that I am in no way related to Bookstores 12, I was only a customer once) I can't understand why an article on Doug Larson, a very notable newspaper columnist with extensive quotations on the Internet, might be deleted. (I am not related to or otherwise associated with Doug Larson).

BRHebert

It seems to be due to a lack of references to reliable sources, to establish notability - see WP:FIRST.  Chzz  ►  08:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

You may find some good info on article development by reading: How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish), as well as How to write a great article. If you are new to editing, it may also help to read The Editing Tutorial. Hope that helps! :) If you need any more help, on this or any other issue, you can always add the {{helpme}} to your page again, or feel free to Leave me a message! Good luck. ^Avicenna_sis @ 08:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Just to let you know, I removed the copy from your userpage since it was ready to go live. :) You can see the current copy at Doug Larson. As for how I did the references, I just got the information and put it in the proper fields on the citation tool. Then press the "Find details" button at the bottom, and it will make the format layout for you. Really neat, I think. Just copy and paste it right after the line or word you are citing, and the wiki does the rest. ^Avicenna_sis @ 09:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Hi! I would like to inform you that the Articles for Creation submission which was previously located here: User:Brhebert/Burger & Jacobi Pianos has been moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Burger & Jacobi Pianos, this move was made automatically and doesn't affect your article, if you have any questions please ask on my talk page! Have a nice day. ArticlesForCreationBot (talk) 07:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. However, the reviewer felt that a few things need to be fixed before it is accepted. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article.)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Sumitkumarjha75 (talk) 15:36, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

I cleaned up your article as much as possible, but you still need good references.  Wikipedia can not be a reference. :- ) DCS 17:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. However, the reviewer felt that a few things need to be fixed before it is accepted. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article.)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 08:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Here are some useful links that should help you work on your articles:

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Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 04:12, 30 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Pratyya ^(Hello!) 14:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Andrew³²⁷ 23:45, 7 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello! Here's how to add references from reliable sources for the content you add to Wikipedia. This helps maintain the Wikipedia policy of verifiability.

Adding well formatted references is actually quite easy:

1. While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "Cite". Click on it.
2. Then click on "Templates".
3. Choose the most appropriate template and fill in as many details as you can. This will add a well formatted reference that is helpful in case the website link (web URL) becomes inactive (dead/link rot) at some point.
4. Click on Preview when you're done filling out the 'Cite (web/news/book/journal)' to make sure that the reference is correct.
5. Click on Insert to insert the reference into your editing window content.
6. Click on Show preview to Preview all your editing changes.
7. Click on Save page. ...and you've just added a complete reference to a Wikipedia article.

You can read more about this on Help:Edit toolbar or see this video File:RefTools.ogv.
Hope this helps, --Shearonink (talk) 04:59, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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A couple of things...

1. I understand, as you said on my talkpage, that you are having difficulties with Wikipedia formatting. Before you add any more references to your draft, please use the instructions above "Adding references can be easy".
2. You added the same reference three times, the McCord article from American Psychologist. I have found a book version of that article that is much more accessible to most Wikipedia readers than a JSTOR citation. If you wish to add that reference again, just use <ref name = "McCord"/> instead of the malformed <ref>http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/amp/33/3/284/> (for one thing, you are leaving out the closing </ref>, another thing is that your recently-added references do not conform to the commonly-accepted Wikipedia style.
3. Also, I am going to repeat here on your talk page what I posted on mine (in response to your 'Help or advice' post)...

"In looking at your draft, it does start to seem that most of the article is not about the Study itself but about McCord's follow-up and the possible fallout from her conclusions. You might want to find and use sources that are about the initial Study itself and not about the follow-up, otherwise the title would possibly need to be changed."

Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 09:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Brhebert. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
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Thanks for persevering on your first article; if it's not accepted this time, I would be surprised and will follow up with the reviewer to get it ironed out. I'm sorry that our policies are difficult to follow at times and are interpreted differently depending upon who you talk to, but nevertheless I wanted to thank you for your diligence, resilience, and perseverance during this time of difficulty and hope that you stick around to help us in the future. The Medicine Wiki-Project (where editors interested in health topics collaborate to improve our coverage in that area collaborate) may interest you. Go Phightins! 03:28, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Cambridge Somerville Youth Study, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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There you go! Congratulations! Go Phightins! 03:54, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 23:01, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Hello, Brhebert. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Burger & Jacobi Pianos".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:57, 27 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

First formed in 1913 and named after French naturalist ^[1], the Lorquin Natural History Club originally included not only entomologists, (Alonzo Davis, Fordyce Grinnell Jr, Rutherford Moore, Raoul May, Reginald Olds, E. Osterhoudt, and Harold Strawn) , but also herpitologists (Rowland Lyttle, Paul Ruthling), an ornithologist (Luther Little), botanists (George Moxley, Stanley Patton), and astonomer (^[2]), a geologist (Harry Waller), to name just a few - all of which were key to founding the Natural History Museum that we know today. This group was renamed in 1917 as the Lorquin Entomological Club, with noted entomologist Dr. John A. Comstock as its first president. The club met in a private home until 1917, then moved to the LA Public Library. In 1919 the club began meeting in the Southwest Museum in Highland Park. In 1927 the group changed its name to the Lorquin Entomological Society and began meeting at the LA County Museum of Natural History. Regular meetings were held at the LACMNH until recent remodeling ousted them. Since then they have been graciously hosted by a local biological supply house, BioQuip, in Rancho Dominguez.

John A. Comstock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_Comstock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Francis_Richter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Grinnell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_History_Museum_of_Los_Angeles_County http://www.bioquip.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rancho_Dominguez,_California

Brhebert (talk) 20:02, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Please remove the cited Wikipedia sources as other articles are not used as sources; instead add two brackets (and ) at each side to link that name article. Also, please add any additional sources such as news, magazines, journals and books about this subject. No press releases or trivial passing mentions.

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by LaMona was:

The references must be sources about the society, not about other organizations or people mentioned in the article. You can use references more than once in the article. It isn't clear how the Evans book relates to the society, so if you can find a reference for that it can stay. Otherwise it must be deleted. Only referenced information can remain in the article. The jpg of the journal cannot be used as a reference. I will try to find something better, but didn't want to delete it as you might lose the link.

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LaMona (talk) 04:46, 4 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Lorquin Entomological Society, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 06:55, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

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