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Style

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Very hard on the eyes...

There we go. Much better, yes? —X S G 05:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-07T05:32:00.000Z","author":"Xsg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Xsg-2007-04-07T05:32:00.000Z-Style","replies":[]}}-->

Would anyone mind if I tweaked the colors a bit? — Sam 14:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-07T14:24:00.000Z","author":"Samuella","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Samuella-2007-04-07T14:24:00.000Z-Style","replies":["c-Xsg-2007-04-07T19:01:00.000Z-Samuella-2007-04-07T14:24:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Sam"}}-->

Considering that I did about 9 hours before you, I'd say go for it! The colors are awful as they were. Now they're better, but still mediocre. What color really represents Kaballah best? —X S G 19:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-07T19:01:00.000Z","author":"Xsg","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Xsg-2007-04-07T19:01:00.000Z-Samuella-2007-04-07T14:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Alright, I've removed the red background from the links as it makes it a bit hard to read and just left it in the headings. If there's anything else you guys want to be changed just ask. — Sam 19:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-07T19:07:00.000Z","author":"Samuella","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Samuella-2007-04-07T19:07:00.000Z-Style","replies":["c-Shuki-2007-04-07T19:40:00.000Z-Samuella-2007-04-07T19:07:00.000Z","c-Xsg-2007-04-08T00:24:00.000Z-Samuella-2007-04-07T19:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Sam"}}-->

The design looks crude. --Shuki 19:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-07T19:40:00.000Z","author":"Shuki","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Shuki-2007-04-07T19:40:00.000Z-Samuella-2007-04-07T19:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This is definitely an improvement. I've gotta agree, though. The original design is a bit crude, even disjoint... Why are these articles selected to be a part of Kabbalism? Why do they appear in the order that they do? And seriously... can we create a longer template?! —X S G 00:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-08T00:24:00.000Z","author":"Xsg","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Xsg-2007-04-08T00:24:00.000Z-Samuella-2007-04-07T19:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Any suggestions for improving it? — Sam 20:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-07T20:04:00.000Z","author":"Samuella","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Samuella-2007-04-07T20:04:00.000Z-Style","replies":["c-Shuki-2007-04-09T20:01:00.000Z-Samuella-2007-04-07T20:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Sam"}}-->

To answer the question above, the colour white would certainly represent kabalah the best. The solid red on the template and on the portal are very strong and I'm not sure how it is related anyway to this subject. A softer hue would be easier on the eyes. The blue that is associated with Judaic projects and portals would seem much more natural. As for the template style, I'd suggest copying the Jewish and Xian templates which are simpler too. --Shuki 20:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T20:01:00.000Z","author":"Shuki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Shuki-2007-04-09T20:01:00.000Z-Samuella-2007-04-07T20:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Template

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It seems very 'weird' that such a template would be created and then applied on Shabbat. --Shuki 19:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-07T19:40:00.000Z","author":"Shuki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shuki-2007-04-07T19:40:00.000Z-Template","replies":["c-Xsg-2007-04-08T00:22:00.000Z-Shuki-2007-04-07T19:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Eh. Just because someone is interested in Kabbalism and improving on Wikipedia articles doesn't mean that they're Jewish or obey Shabbat in any way. —X S G 00:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-08T00:22:00.000Z","author":"Xsg","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Xsg-2007-04-08T00:22:00.000Z-Shuki-2007-04-07T19:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shuki-2007-04-09T20:07:00.000Z-Xsg-2007-04-08T00:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Certainly. A userbox on Lighthead's page tells us that s/he is not Jewish but even if s/he were, I'd figure that 'kabalah' would want to rest on shabbat. --Shuki 20:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T20:07:00.000Z","author":"Shuki","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Shuki-2007-04-09T20:07:00.000Z-Xsg-2007-04-08T00:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

--What were you guys talking about I checked the history of Shabbat there wasn't anything like that. Lighthead ^þ 01:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-02T01:26:00.000Z","author":"Lighthead","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lighthead-2007-08-02T01:26:00.000Z-Template","replies":[]}}-->

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Arbitrary Navigation?

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Granted, Kabbalism is a broad topic, but some of the topics listed in this nav box seem arbitrary. The seemingly cluttered nature of these topics makes the nav box and any article with this nav box look non-encyclopedic.

I'd remove this nav box from the page I keep watch over (Raziel), but I'd rather see some effort put into reorganizing the nab box so that it's both professional and useful.

To start my proposal, I think the graphic of the tree of life, while nifty, just takes up unnecessary real estate and doesn't really add much to the articles it appears on. I'd like to remove it.

I've got more proposals, but we'll start with this one. Thoughts, anyone? —X S G 05:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-03T05:30:00.000Z","author":"Xsg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Xsg-2007-06-03T05:30:00.000Z-Arbitrary_Navigation?","replies":["c-Yehoishophot_Oliver-2007-06-03T09:59:00.000Z-Xsg-2007-06-03T05:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

I agree--the graphic is too large. Yehoishophot Oliver 09:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-03T09:59:00.000Z","author":"Yehoishophot Oliver","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yehoishophot_Oliver-2007-06-03T09:59:00.000Z-Xsg-2007-06-03T05:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Removed

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Removed from Raziel as this template just seems to grow without really improving or making the subject of Kabbalism any easier to navigate. —X S G 04:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-01T04:46:00.000Z","author":"Xsg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Xsg-2007-08-01T04:46:00.000Z-Removed","replies":[]}}-->

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I need help!

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Could someone help me with the Categories on the template I must have not done the code right; because the Categories won't show. Lighthead ^þ 23:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-25T23:40:00.000Z","author":"Lighthead","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lighthead-2007-08-25T23:40:00.000Z-I_need_help!","replies":[]}}-->

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I wonder if the spacing marks between the links are now making the box far too long for the Kabbalah page, particularly now more additions are being made to it. Would it be an idea to remove them? They can always be reinserted if there is disagreement. abafied 14:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-05T14:23:00.000Z","author":"Abafied","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Abafied-2007-09-05T14:23:00.000Z-Spacing_marks","replies":[]}}-->

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didn't the prague rabbi bring yossela into a clay form?

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please don't delete or ban me :)

this is just a job to facilitate sourcing of materials on wikipedia.

this seems like practical cabala.

thanks for helping revise his article.

here is a link to the song,

http

www

israelreporter

com

files

radio

music

yossela

mp3

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The Baal HaSulam

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The Encyclopedia Judaica says that R. Yehuda Ashlag was the greatest Kabbalist of the 20th century. Do we have room to squeeze him onto the list? Phil_burnstein (talk) 07:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-09T07:27:00.000Z","author":"Phil burnstein","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Phil_burnstein-2009-03-09T07:27:00.000Z-The_Baal_HaSulam","replies":[],"displayName":"Phil_burnstein"}}-->

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Image

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I propose that the image for Kabbalah be changed from the Tree of Life to a Hamsa as this symbol has a greater recognition. 216.254.123.206 (talk) 23:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-18T23:23:00.000Z","author":"216.254.123.206","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-216.254.123.206-2009-06-18T23:23:00.000Z-Image","replies":[]}}-->

Keep the Sephirot Image!

Please leave the big Sephirot tree image on the Template:Kabbalah box! The Hamsa is a folk religious-somewhat supersticious-half Muslim?-half "Practical Kabbalah"?-art cultural image. The Sephirot diagram is the deep theoretical image of "Conceptual Kabbalah" (the theology of Kabbalah), around which the historical evolution of Kabbalistic thought developed. Eg Cordoveran Kabbalah interpreted it with one conceptual paradigm of rational categorisation, Lurianic kabbalah gave it a successive, deeper, more integrated conceptual paradigm. The image is great! (I erased the second, small Sephirotic tree image at the bottom of the same template box, to avoid repetition, and as that one was more associated with Hermetic kabbalah, integrating the Sephirot with less theoretical topics, even if also found in Jewish Kabbalah! If you want further information about the different conceptual interpretations of the Sephirotic tree, see [1]. Are "Partsufim" a Lurianic doctrine? Wikipedia needs lots of improvement, by people who know more than me (though when I have the time, I will read up on it!). 78.146.22.152 (talk) 00:19, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-31T00:19:00.000Z","author":"78.146.22.152","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-78.146.22.152-2009-08-31T00:19:00.000Z-Keep_the_Sephirot_Image!","replies":[]}}-->

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Organization, formatting

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This template needs some organizational editing/trimming. Suggest using collapsable sections (for example Template:Philosophy-sidebar) and limiting one or two entries per line. -Stevertigo (w | t | e) 04:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-04-20T04:18:00.000Z","author":"Stevertigo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stevertigo-2010-04-20T04:18:00.000Z-Organization,_formatting","replies":["c-212.84.103.144-2010-06-15T17:28:00.000Z-Stevertigo-2010-04-20T04:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've just done this, but kept the links to pages that don't currently include the template. Some/all of those may need to be pruned. Also, if the relevant part of the template is to be shown on those pages that do or will include it, the template call {{Kabbalah}} will need to become {{Kabbalah |expanded=name}} where name is the name of the corresponding section as given in the template's code ("Concepts", "History", "Practices", "People", "Role"). 212.84.103.144 (talk) 17:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-15T17:28:00.000Z","author":"212.84.103.144","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-212.84.103.144-2010-06-15T17:28:00.000Z-Stevertigo-2010-04-20T04:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Shekhinah >> Shekhina|Shechina

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I have replaced the link [[Shekhina|Shechina]] with [[Shekhinah]]. Both Shekhina and Shechina redirected to Shekhinah. --Nemonoman (talk) 12:01, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-04T12:01:00.000Z","author":"Nemonoman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nemonoman-2011-08-04T12:01:00.000Z-Shekhinah_>>_Shekhina|Shechina","replies":[]}}-->