Template talk:Hindu reform movements

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Ayyavazhi

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is Ayyavazhi really a reform movement????--Redtigerxyz (talk) 12:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-13T12:13:00.000Z","author":"Redtigerxyz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Redtigerxyz-2008-02-13T12:13:00.000Z-Ayyavazhi","replies":["c-Lalu_Hrishikesh-2008-03-14T20:54:00.000Z-Redtigerxyz-2008-02-13T12:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Certainly, a religious as well as a social; apart from its beliefs. Look into the citations over there in the section 'Teachings and Impact' of the Ayyavazhi article. Thanks. - White Dot...!!!_® 20:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-14T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Lalu Hrishikesh","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lalu_Hrishikesh-2008-03-14T20:54:00.000Z-Redtigerxyz-2008-02-13T12:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lalu_Hrishikesh-2009-09-06T17:49:00.000Z-Lalu_Hrishikesh-2008-03-14T20:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"White Dot"}}-->

Why Ayyavazhi is removed from here? - White Dot...!!!_® 17:49, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-06T17:49:00.000Z","author":"Lalu Hrishikesh","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lalu_Hrishikesh-2009-09-06T17:49:00.000Z-Lalu_Hrishikesh-2008-03-14T20:54:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"White Dot"}}-->

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Revivalist?

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This template has "revivalist writers" among its subjects, and the list of such writers is growing. However, there is no clarity on who is supposed to be there. The English meanings of "revival", "revivalism" and "revivalist" are quite intricate:

revival - "The action of reviving something after decline or discontinuance; restoration to general use, acceptance, popularity, etc.; an instance or the result of this." (OED) This would indicate that "Hindu revival" is mainly a religious activity. It would easily cover people like Vivekananda or Aurobindo and perhaps Gandhi as well.
revivalism - "Belief in or the promotion of a revival of religious fervour." (OED) This is not necessarily associated with reviving religion, but rather of "religious fervour." This would cover all the religio-political movements such as the Arya Samaj, Hindu Mahasabha etc., and perhaps all their activists.
revivalist (noun) - OED gives two unrelated meanings: (1) "A person who promotes, produces, or takes part in a religious revival." (2) "A person who revives, reintroduces, or advocates the revival of something which belongs to the past or is no longer current."
revivalist (adj) - "Of, relating to, or characteristic of revivalists or revivalism." (OED)

So the meaning of "revivalist writers" is ambiguous. They are either taking part in a religious revival or they are advocating revivalism (i.e., religious fervour). Which of the two is this template supposed to cover? Pinging Marcocapelle, Vanamonde93, Redtigerxyz. - Kautilya3 (talk) 13:43, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-26T13:43:00.000Z","author":"Kautilya3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kautilya3-2016-01-26T13:43:00.000Z-Revivalist?","replies":["c-Kautilya3-2016-01-30T00:15:00.000Z-Kautilya3-2016-01-26T13:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

Since this is a template on "Hindu reform movements", I think only "revival" in the sense of reviving religion belongs here. Correspondingly, I am removing all religio-political movements. - Kautilya3 (talk) 00:15, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-30T00:15:00.000Z","author":"Kautilya3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kautilya3-2016-01-30T00:15:00.000Z-Kautilya3-2016-01-26T13:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->