Template talk:Foreign relations of Israel

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Standard format

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In a effort to standardize foreign relations templates, this template got a "collapse" function as it has got very big and many specific topics not necessarily belong in this template. --Randam (talk) 09:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-15T09:47:00.000Z","author":"Randam","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randam-2021-01-15T09:47:00.000Z-Standard_format","replies":["c-TimeEngineer-2021-01-19T01:10:00.000Z-Randam-2021-01-15T09:47:00.000Z","c-TimeEngineer-2021-01-24T17:56:00.000Z-Randam-2021-01-15T09:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think it looked a lot better before. Separating it out makes it feel lopsided, and doesn't make it any easier to navigate. I would recommend reverting it to the previous organization. TimeEngineer (talk) 01:10, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-19T01:10:00.000Z","author":"TimeEngineer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TimeEngineer-2021-01-19T01:10:00.000Z-Randam-2021-01-15T09:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

@Flushing Girl and Randam: Can we please discuss this? The new format just looks terrible and is less useful imo TimeEngineer (talk) 17:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-24T17:56:00.000Z","author":"TimeEngineer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TimeEngineer-2021-01-24T17:56:00.000Z-Randam-2021-01-15T09:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I agree Mr. TimeEngineer, we should revert it back to the original format or just get rid of the collapsible groups. That's what I think should happen. Just probably get rid of the collapsible groups. Flushing Girl (talk) 22:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-25T22:16:00.000Z","author":"Flushing Girl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flushing_Girl-2021-01-25T22:16:00.000Z-Standard_format","replies":["c-Flushing_Girl-2021-02-01T00:39:00.000Z-Flushing_Girl-2021-01-25T22:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Both. Humans can never reach an unanimous decision on what's the 'most comfortable' way to navigate, as it is a 'matter of taste'. However, humans can discuss what grouping is logical and consistent. Having groups likes "Africa", "Asia", "Europe" next to "Peace Agreements" and "multilateral" is not logical, but a "taste".

Secondly, when templates get bigger, they get a collapse function. Similar to templates of Brazil, India, France, Philippines, Russia, United Kingdom and many others. I disagree that the current format is more lopsided than the previous format. Because the other non-bileteral groups were snowed under the bileteral group. Flushing Girl (talk) 00:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-01T00:39:00.000Z","author":"Flushing Girl","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Flushing_Girl-2021-02-01T00:39:00.000Z-Flushing_Girl-2021-01-25T22:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

TimeEngineer is correct. We should have gotten rid of the collapsible groups from this article. I mean nothing is wrong here. If the format is restored then good. I mean those countries you cited are very powerful ones and are even members of BRICS and the G7. Flushing Girl (talk) 22:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-05T22:43:00.000Z","author":"Flushing Girl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flushing_Girl-2021-02-05T22:43:00.000Z-Standard_format","replies":["c-TimeEngineer-2021-02-07T01:18:00.000Z-Flushing_Girl-2021-02-05T22:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Flushing Girl: I think we are in full agreement. Please feel free to revert the template to the previous version. TimeEngineer (talk) 01:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-07T01:18:00.000Z","author":"TimeEngineer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TimeEngineer-2021-02-07T01:18:00.000Z-Flushing_Girl-2021-02-05T22:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->