Template talk:American frontier

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Scope?

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This is a very ambiguous topic whose dimensions could be taken to broad extremes... which I'm not completely averse to; however, I have clashed with editors who will go after the template for that reason. I would suggest defining the years in the title on the template, i.e. "American Old West: 18.. to 18.." • Freechild'sup? 07:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-11T07:02:00.000Z","author":"Freechild","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Freechild-2008-06-11T07:02:00.000Z-Scope?","replies":["c-Tombstone-2008-06-11T07:33:00.000Z-Freechild-2008-06-11T07:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Such a definition is subjective; the lead paragraph of American Old West sums up the ambiguity of the Old West timeframe. I was working under the premise that if it was covered significantly in the main article, it went on the template. --Tombstone (talk) 07:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-11T07:33:00.000Z","author":"Tombstone","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tombstone-2008-06-11T07:33:00.000Z-Freechild-2008-06-11T07:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Freechild-2008-06-11T13:09:00.000Z-Tombstone-2008-06-11T07:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
I can see how a person could be tempted to use that as the barometer; thanks for explaining that. If I may, I would suggest that using that initial paragraph as the guideline this template may include any WP article related, as the notability of the topics therein should hypothetically have been proven by the existence of the article. (I would be loath to see all the non-popular stories and figures, such as those from Nebraska, New Mexico and Montana, left out simply because they aren't in the main article at this point - and because the dime novels covering them were never popular). • Freechild'sup? 13:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-11T13:09:00.000Z","author":"Freechild","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Freechild-2008-06-11T13:09:00.000Z-Tombstone-2008-06-11T07:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Correct title?

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The American Frontier includes the initial expansion of the 13 colonies, (including such things as the Northwest Territory, Franklin, Daniel Boone and the Wilderness Trail, the Chickamauga Cherokee, Lousiana Purchase, etc.) and may not adhere to the author's intent of this template. Wouldn't "Old West" or something similar work better? The "American Frontier" is HUGE in scope for a single template. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 16:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-24T16:10:00.000Z","author":"GenQuest","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GenQuest-2013-03-24T16:10:00.000Z-Correct_title?","replies":[]}}-->

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WikiCleaner

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Used WikiCleaner and found typo in "Tucson" and updated a few links to WP pages. Funandtrvl (talk) 04:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-08T04:29:00.000Z","author":"Funandtrvl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Funandtrvl-2008-10-08T04:29:00.000Z-WikiCleaner","replies":[]}}-->

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Added significant cities

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I was looking at this template and was surprised by not only how disorganized the state/territory town list was, but by how incomplete it was. There were numerous towns with considerable-to-major historical significance for the Old West that were completely left out. For example, you can't have a list for Montana and not include places like Helena (the richest town in the U.S. during its gold rush years); or the Dakota Territory without any acknowledgment of Bismarck or Fargo; or Washington state with no inclusion of Vancouver (the site of Fort Vancouver and a major U.S. fur trading post). Oregon didn't even have its own section, which I also found bizarre given the rich history surrounding the Oregon Territory and Oregon Trail. In any case, I tried to clean this up and add relevant, historically-significant towns to these sections. --Drown Soda (talk) 09:03, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-07T09:03:00.000Z","author":"Drown Soda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drown_Soda-2016-10-07T09:03:00.000Z-Added_significant_cities","replies":[]}}-->

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Florida territory

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I think this belongs - there was a lot of action along that frontier (Georgia - Spanish Florida). As putting it in is not a trivial task, I’m asking here if anyone has any problem with it. deisenbe (talk) 13:41, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-22T13:41:00.000Z","author":"Deisenbe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Deisenbe-2018-08-22T13:41:00.000Z-Florida_territory","replies":["c-Deisenbe-2018-08-25T03:31:00.000Z-Deisenbe-2018-08-22T13:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

No one has commented so I’m going to do it. deisenbe (talk) 03:31, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-25T03:31:00.000Z","author":"Deisenbe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Deisenbe-2018-08-25T03:31:00.000Z-Deisenbe-2018-08-22T13:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->