Talk:Yu-no

This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Video games: Visual novels High‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Video games, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of video games on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Video gamesWikipedia:WikiProject Video gamesTemplate:WikiProject Video gamesvideo game High This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale. This article is supported by the visual novels task force. Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks: Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks view watch edit history shell vg talk alerts purge AfDs Illyriad (0 participants) Star Racer (video game) (3 participants) Age of Ascent (3 participants) Albert Aretz (3 participants) Samantha Youssef (1 participant) 2026 Phygital Games of the Future (1 participant) Saimazoom (6 participants) Battle of the Bulge (video game) (5 participants) The Wings Store (7 participants) Sadia Bashir (5 participants) Planet Zoo: Arctic Pack (9 participants; relisted) Planet Zoo: South America Pack (9 participants; relisted) Niantic Spatial (5 participants; relisted) Pointy ears (23 participants; relisted) Emily Pitcher (10 participants; relisted) Merge discussions Other discussions No major discussions Featured content candidates Aloy (nom) Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics) (nom) Good article nominations Talking Flower (nom) Fate/Unlimited Codes (nom) Mauga (Overwatch) (start) Visual novel (start) Shion (Overwatch) (start) The Dark Pictures Anthology: The Devil in Me (start) Lords of the Realm II (start) Multi-purpose Arcade Combat Simulator (nom) Barbie Storymaker (start) Light Brick Studio (start) Wrex (start) Lego Creator (video game) (start) Magician Lord (start) Rebecca Chambers (start) Angry Video Game Nerd (start) Ever Oasis (start) Barbie Riding Club (nom) Doom Eternal (start) God of War Sons of Sparta (start) EarthBound 64 (nom) Daisuke Ishiwatari (start) The King of Fighters '98 (start) JumpStart 1st Grade (start) Romancing SaGa 3 (start) Mordin Solus (start) Killer Bees! (start) Pokémon Picross (nom) Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown (start) Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes (nom) {{ganl|1=Fire Emblem Warriors|#=1|shortdesc=2017 video game|msg=GA nomination template has no status parameter while the review page exists Slot Racers (start) DYK nominations No did you know nominations Reviews and reassessments Characters of Final Fantasy VIII (nom) Mana (series) (nom) Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity (rev) Paimon (Genshin Impact) (rev) Jelly (YouTuber) (rev) Enix (rev) Dead Island Reveal Trailer (rev) Articles that need... assessment (1) (56) reassessment (0) cleanup (28) infoboxes (16) cover art (550) screenshots (10,289) photos (90) translation from japan (167) creation merging Anime and manga Low‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anime and manga, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of anime, manga, and related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Anime and mangaWikipedia:WikiProject Anime and mangaTemplate:WikiProject Anime and mangaanime and manga Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

The following reference(s) may be useful when improving this article in the future: Gematsu coverage: [1] [2] https://automaton-media.com/articles/interviewsjp/20170124-38850/ Ryu Takami discusses working with Ryu Umemoto and Hiroyuki Kanno (in Japanese) https://www.4gamer.net/games/445/G044584/20190802131/ Makoto Asada and Tetsuo Hirakawa discuss the 2017 remake and 2019 anime (in Japanese) Various Saturn Fan coverage: [3] [4] [5] [6] https://www.rpgfan.com/feature/rpgfans-essential-visual-novels https://archive.org/details/nadeshi-co-vol.-2/page/n8/mode/1up https://archive.org/details/game-hihyou-vol.-16-game-magazine-scan-jp/page/37/mode/2up Interview with Makoto Asada with info about the remake's development and a new Windows port of the original version (in Japanese); relevant bits reported in English by Noisy Pixel 2016 interview with Makoto Asada and Keishi Yonao about the then upcoming remake (in Japanese) Megastore Gimix coverage: [7] [8] (review) https://jp.ign.com/vallhalla/21197/news/va-11-hall-a Composer of VA-11 Hall-A, Michael Kelly, talks about YU-NO's soundtrack being his favourite Umemoto album and naming a track in his honour (in Japanese) Reviews of the 2019 anime: [9] [10] [11] (last one in Polish) German review of the remake, source is described as "apparently alright" here While probably not directly usable itself, Nicovideo has an article citing Japanese sources, such as Ken'ichi Sakemi praising YU-NO in the afterword of one of his books, an issue of the literary magazine Faust (already used some in the JP WP article) saying YU-NO anticipated/prepared tropes of the 2000s, and a ZDNet / Gamespot Japan interview with Kanno - be sure to check for more https://archive.org/details/Heroine-Games-1997-10/Heroine%20Games%201997%2010/page/54/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/Nadeshi-Co-1997-12/Nadeshi-Co%201997%2012/page/60/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/Pretty-Fan-04/Pretty_Fan_04/page/n3/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/pretty-graphics-vol1/Pretty%20Graphics%20-%201/page/n118/mode/1up https://archive.org/details/maniacs_202504/Maniacs/page/199/mode/2up Naotaka Hayashi, a main writer of Steins;Gate, praises YU-NO (in Japanese) https://archive.org/details/TV-Gamer-1997-10-03/TV_Gamer_1997_10_03_300DPI_OCR/page/39/mode/1up Paper from Springer Nature discussing Harlan Ellison's work and Yu-no, behind paywall

This article contains a translation of この世の果てで恋を唄う少女YU-NO from ja.wikipedia.

On 11 June 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World to Yu-no. The result of the discussion was moved.

The Japanese article currently goes into way too much depth (practically a walkthrough!) and also presents things in a confusing order to someone unfamiliar with the game, so I'm trying to just bring over the most important parts in each section and clarify/trim things as needed. There is definitely plenty of useful and interesting info about this game there, which is pretty significant in Japan and mostly unheard of in the West (An english translation patch was just finished this year, probably should add that somewhere...) I would like to flesh out the character section some more, but it might be beyond my poor language skills. I also worked in the original paragraph pulled from the ELF Corporation YU-NO section, mainly to mention the composer Ryu Umemoto. ソナタ (talk) 06:34, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

I have seen claims [12][13] of the existence of interviews and such wherein multiple prominent visual novel authors reveal being influenced by YU-NO. I haven't been able to find these. If they do exist, I believe they'd be a crucial addition in confirming the game's influence.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 06:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

I've found the following Japanese source from the Japanese Wikipedia page:

• "名作「YU-NO」リメイク版をサターン版と比較し徹底レビュー！". ITmedia (in Japanese). April 16, 2017. Retrieved 17 May 2019.

It mentions a number of authors who cited YU-NO as an influence during its 20th anniversary in 2016. I've added the source to the article. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:33, 18 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=20479. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and, if allowed under fair use, may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, providing it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 09:40, 30 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Per MOS:CAPSACRS, "Some acronyms (mostly trademarks like Yahoo! and Taser) conventionally or officially use a mixture of capitals and lowercase letters, even non-letters; for any given example, use the spelling found in the majority of reliable, independent sources (e.g., LaTeX, M&Ms, 3M, and InBev)." Is this the case with YU-NO? I haven't played this, but from skimming the article it doesn't look like Yu-no/YU-NO is an abbreviation of anything. The guideline suggests to "use the spelling found in the majority of reliable, independent sources".

Looking at English-language sources I have available

• The History and Allure of Interactive Visual Novels (2023) spell it as Yu-No: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World (p. 22, 71, etc.)
• Gematsu write it as "YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World" and "YU-NO" for short. (here)
• Hardcore Gaming 101 writes it as "YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world." and "YU-NO" for short. (here)
• The Moé Manifesto (2014) refers to it "The Girl Who Chants Love at the Edge of this World Yu-No (1996)" (p.105)
• Otaku: Japan's Database Animals (2001) calls it "Yu-No" for short. (p.108, etc.)
• NintendoLife spells it as both "Yu-No: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World" and "YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World" (here)
• Digitally Downloaded seem to go back and forth between writing "YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World" and "Yu-No" for short, even going as far as to joke "Yu-No: A Girl With A Very Long And Silly Subtitle is much better experience than its nonsense name."
• The Anime News Network calls it (or rather, a home video version of an anime series adapted from it) as "YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world" (here) Note the lowercase for its subtitle here.

And while not an independent source on the topic, Spike Chunsoft as the publisher of the later English version calls it "YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world" in their press release seen here. Several of the covers of the game (as one can see at the VNDB that have an English spelling of the game also show the capital YU-NO and the lowercase subtitle. I think the Spike Chunsoft PR and these covers has a useful key point that they seem to emphasize the lowercase subtitle ("A girl who chants love at the bound of this world") as well capitalizing "YU-NO".

Some sources do go for capitalizing "YU-NO" some do not, a few make sure to write the subtitle in lowercase, others do not. MOS:TMRULES, seems to suggest it should be "Yu-No" over "YU-NO" per their "follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use, rather than inventing a new one"

I think we've found a few examples of it being used both ways, and I'm sure we can find a few dozen more for either side of a discussion, but I'm leaning towards the article should be moved to basically the same title but with "Yu-No" over "YU-NO" as it seems more inline with the guidelines. Anyone else have thoughts on this one? Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

The word comes from a character whose name is spelled "Yu-No" in the official translation of the remake and "Yu-no" in the fan TL, the latter of which is widely regarded superior (the former's reviewers have noted several issues with the localisation, with it sometimes even turning into outright gibberish). The article already mostly uses translation choices of the fan TL, partly because of it considerably predating the official release and being the only TL for a major portion of the article's existence. Another point that can me made is that the remake's TL is for the remake, not the original game which the article focuses on.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 19:06, 2 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

On the other hand, a WP:COMMONNAME-related issue that occurred to me is that the fan TL translates the subtitle differently ("The Girl that Chants Love at the Edge of the World"). Virtually all other material, from before the remake's English release also, uses the current wording which really should be retained. Anyway, this was more of a tangent than I intended, and I brought up the fan TL's spelling difference mainly for comprehensiveness's sake.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 20:06, 2 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Regarding casing of the subtitle, the article was moved from that part being lowercase in 2017, making at least that part more correct since then, although "this" should probably be capitalised too.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 19:50, 2 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Haha, totally okay about the tangent. I was familiar that it was for a character in the game. This is one of those kind of Japanese games that has so much media spun from it (anime, OVA, manga, several pc/console ports in Japan, fan translations in English, official remakes in English and Japanese, etc.), it is difficult to see what we are talking about when we jump from medium to medium. I'm not that familiar with WP:ANIME guidelines, but this infobox...kind of only makes sense if your already a fan of the game and the media that spun off from it. MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE suggests we should use the infobox to summarize the key information in the article, but we have so much about all the adaptations in there that its kind of exhausting. Even harder when we have a game that swaps between "remake" and original a lot for its infobox info.

Anyways, back to the name! Its not really a matter of it being more "correct" per se for the title, its more along the lines of does saying "YU-NO" or "Yu-No" follow the guidelines? It looks like it was moved without discussion which was fine but yeah it should definitely have "This" be in capitals.

I thought of WP:COMMONNAME too, but Common name isn't really for capitalization/stylized text (at least, I don't think it is), its more for things like, William Henry Pratt's stage name was Boris Karloff, and that's what's he's called in most of the dedicated writing about him. This seems more like a situation like the band Korn, where the lead just says after "Korn (stylized as KoЯn)" or the film Seven is stylized as "Se7en". I think either "Yu-No" or "Yu-no" would be more appropriate than "YU-NO" in our guideline terms, but I think I'd let @LaukkuTheGreit: have a bit more swing in which is probably more appropriate for the article title as I've not played either version of the game. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2026 (UTC)Reply