Talk:Windows 8

Talk:Windows 8

Windows 8.1 Upgrade

Latest comment: 3 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion

Herbfur, you recently removed that Windows Embedded 8 Standard users aren't required to install the Windows 8.1 Update after January 12, 2016. Please explain why you reverted that. And also, I know that Windows 8.1 uses a different NT version number from Windows 8, but when I added today that Windows 8.1 was a successor to Windows 8 as an Update and Windows 10 was a successor to Windows 8 as a major release, you also reverted that. Please explain why. 195.5.3.58 (talk) 19:26, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I have restored the portion about Windows Embedded. It was unintentionally removed, thank you for bringing that to my attention. In regards to the edit about the successor to Windows 8, I feel that the status quo is better. If we look at the documentation for Template:Infobox OS, the "succeeded by" field is described as follows: "For operating system versions: next version of the operating system intended for the same target audience". This shows a consensus that this field should be filled with one single item, which would be the immediate version of Windows following this, that targets the same user base. Given that Windows 8.1 was considered notable enough by the Wikipedia community for its own article (which no update or service pack was) and it carries its own NT version number, it best fits in this box. It is not necessary to list Windows 10 as well, as readers can simply follow the chronological flow of versions from 8 to 8.1 to 10, or use the links at the bottom of the article. Including both versions is not what the guidelines for the infobox suggest, and I do not think it's necessary; differentiating between "major release" and "update" here is also speculative. Nonetheless, I do not want to get into a major disagreement over this issue, and I am willing to hear your reasoning. Herbfur (He/Him) (talk) 22:47, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
I have recently added a year when Windows 8.1 was released into the Windows 8 infobox. I think that readers can follow the chronological flow of versions from 8 to 10, because Windows 8.1 was a service pack, but rather called as an update for Windows 8. In other case, if we should say that Windows 8.1 was a successor to Windows 8 as an Update, readers can follow the chronological flow of versions from Windows 8.0 to Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 RTM to Windows 10 22H2. What do you think? 195.5.3.58 (talk) 07:57, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Could you rephrase your comment please? I'm not sure I'm understanding. To recap my comment:
- Windows 8.1 was not a service pack, even if it was treated that way for support purposes
- Readers can simply use the infobox links to navigate from 8 to 8.1 to 10, so including both is against the infobox guidelines and is not necessary.
Herbfur (He/Him) (talk) 21:33, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
I think that we should say in the infobox that Windows 8.1 was a successor to Windows 8 as an Update. I mean like this
Windows 8.1 (2013, as an Update)
Windows 10 was a successor to Windows 8 as a major release. I mean like this
Windows 10 (2015, as a major release)
Should we add into the Windows 8 infobox that Windows 10 was a successor to Windows 8 as a major release, or keep Windows 8.1? 195.5.3.58 (talk) 13:08, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
If Windows 8.1 wasn't a service pack, so it was an Update. Even if it carried it's own NT number version, it was treated as a service Pack for support reasons, but Win8.1 was called as an Update rather than a service pack. 195.5.3.58 (talk) 13:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

Latest comment: 3 years ago3 comments1 person in discussion
This review is transcluded from Talk:Windows 8/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Rjjiii (talk · contribs) 05:07, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I'm not sure if you have contributed to the article under other IP addresses or under a user name, but it's expected that nominators are significant contributors to an article they put up for GA (Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Instructions).

Regardless, there are significant issues with the writing throughout the article. Much of the article consists of a dense series of facts. If you are a contributor and would like specific examples to help with future improvement, let me know, Rjjiii (talk) 05:07, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Briefly here are a couple examples of the issue with the writing:
  • The lead should provide an overview and ideally be approachable even for readers with lower levels of English-language abilities. The first paragraph is packed with dates, footnotes, and jargon: Windows 8 is a major release of the Windows NT operating system developed by Microsoft. It was released to manufacturing on August 1, 2012; it was subsequently made available for download via MSDN and TechNet on August 15, 2012, and later to retail on October 26, 2012.
  • The first paragraph of the body should give the reader some kind of footing either chronologically or theoretically. The first couple of sentences are dense with information and do not have a clear connection: Windows 8 development started before Windows 7 had shipped in 2009. At the Consumer Electronics Show in January 2011, it was announced that the next version of Windows would add support for ARM System-on-chips alongside the existing 32-bit processors produced by vendors, especially AMD and Intel.
  • Some sentences contain facts without appropriate references or context: The traditional Blue Screen of Death (BSoD) was replaced by a new black screen, although it was later reverted to a different blue color.
Good luck to any future editors looking to improve this article, Rjjiii (talk) 05:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I see a few builds are mentioned here, it would make sense to link to the wiki BetaWiki for it. BetaWiki specializes in those beta builds. Slovensky2000 (talk) 04:51, 17 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

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