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Just letting you all know that MTM has legally been allowed to call their watch waterproof.

http://www.specialopswatch.com/cart/products.cgi?category=7

Somebody with more experience should maybe edit the entry?

Rykoshet 12:55, 22 Octover 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.249.81 (talk)

I question the validity of this paragraph:

Important collectible American made watches from the early 20th Century were the best available at any price. Leading watchmakers included Elgin, Gruen, Hamilton, and Illinois. Hamilton is generally considered as having the finest early American movements, while the art deco styling of The Illinois Watch Company was unsurpassed worldwide. Early Gruen Curvex models remain very desired for how they entwined form and function, and Elgin made more watches than anyone else.

It appears biased, the last sentence doesn't elaborate on 'entwining form and function' which is a very abstract phrase. Also in the same sentence it not only has a grammatical error by having a comma followed by the word 'and' but it also makes very bold point that is irrelevant to the rest of the sentence. I think a citation would be required when making as bold a statement as a company making more watches than any other company for the entire century.

Why does my watch say: Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat, Sun from 1am to 12am and Dom, Lun, Mar, Mie, Jue, Vie, Sab (el spanisho) from 12am to 1am??? Answer that one... :P~

Your mechanical watch was built to display the day in either English or Spanish. The date wheel inside has the names of the days in both languages. When you set the watch, you will have some way of indexing it to either the Spanish or English names.

To advance from Dom to Lun, it has to move the date wheel two "steps". It makes these movements an hour apart. If you look at in during that hour, you will see the "off" language.

Watches with many complications that need to change daily don't always change them in a single set of motions. It is normal for a watch to take several hours to prepare all the displays (day, date, month, etc.) for the new day. Since this typically happens in the middle of the night, when the wearer awakes, the watch is ready. -O^O

Hello all,

I removed a paragraph that looked like advertisement from the article, but my change was reverted. The rationale for the revert was that the advertised product represents a unique development. Since this is a notability question I do not feel equipped to answer (i.e maybe the product should actually be referenced, but certainly not advertised), instead I tagged the section with the most visible problems, like the use of marketing-like words and/or claims that are not in the linked sources. In detail, these include:

• "inexpensive": how is that relevant for anyone looking to do anything but buy? also I do not see how it is NPOV, they go for $100+, which to an NPOV can be anywhere between 'prohibitively expensive' and 'cheap as dirt'
• "only 51 parts": again, how is this relevant? the rest of the article does not concern itself with minimizing part count, is the part count pertinent? looks like something a marketer added to a brochure
• "purely mechanical": this suggests that automatic watches before this one were something impure? this idea of movement purity is not discussed anywhere in the article, which again points this to being another point of puffery

If it were up to me, I'd remove that paragraph from the section altogether, but to avoid an edit war, I'm assuming User:BBCLCD has intimate knowledge of the notability policy and the subject matter, so the best I can do is discuss here how that paragraph should be rewritten so as to not function as an advertisement. Please let me know what you think!

Regards,

Daclyff (talk) 08:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Have introduced three new references (including one by de:Gisbert L. Brunner, renowned watch expert ) to document the notability and uniqueness of this automatic movement. There is good reason for this movement to be called Sistem51, as it's low parts count combined with automatic assembly allow low manufacturing cost of a complicated automatic watch with jewel bearings. Quote: Unique in the world, this ingenious system eliminates the need for a regulator and manual adjustment of the precision of the movement by changing the rate. Quote: The genius of the Sistem51 is that it’s made of only 51 parts, spread around 5 modules and linked one to another by only one central screw. The assembling of the parts, including the 19 jewels and the regulating organ, is done by machine.--BBCLCD (talk) 09:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

This article is primarily about watches to worn on the arm. This should be linked to the German Armbanduhr. I tried to figure out how to change the link to other languages but could not find the appropriate interface.

Could any one help me? Waveman68 (talk) 16:49, 8 August 2026 (UTC)Reply