Talk:Universal rule

The context here is Yachting is it not? Can we have a somewhat less "universal" title? --Wetman 21:20, 29 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Talk:Universal rule

The context here is Yachting is it not? Can we have a somewhat less "universal" title? --Wetman 21:20, 29 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Yep, it's a Yachting term, i'm not a yachter so I don't know a ton about the topic, just enough to build this stub :) I just know that is is really called the "Universal Rule" (double caps), if there are some other Universal Rules though perhaps this should be turned into a disambig page, but I couldn't readily locate any other Universal Rules on Wikipedia --Fxer 21:46, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Overall or waterline length?

Is the Length factor the overall length or the waterline length? I'm guessing waterline but I don't know much about boats. Lisiate

I think this article is slightly inaccurate, definitely incomplete. Skene indicates this:
Universal Rule:
where
  • [1][2][3]16:18, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
  • L.W.L. = Load Water line Length
  • q.b.l. = quarter-beam length
where for example the J-class yacht Rating must be equal to 76, where 76 ft ≤ L.W.L. < 88 ft and Displacement ≤ 166 tons
The NYT archives describes L as a practical model for the "sailing length", which is the waterline length when the boat is heeled in moderate winds. The article also offers the contemporary method for displacement measurement of boats, but you have to be knowledgeable about things like Simpson's rule, which I suspect must have been similar to the Cubical Contents Rule in use for the 1881 America's Cup.
Generally speaking, this was the situation as it stood after deliberation/proposal/vote in 1905. If nothing was changed for 1930 — 1937 America's Cup challenges, I suggest the article be permanently amended.
Nuttyrave (talk) 22:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
"Load Waterline rejected", New York Times, 1908-10-09 states that in 1908 the Universal Rule replaced the 5.5 factor in the divisor by 0.182 in the numerator. The article mentions other restrictions such as schooner/yawl handicaps when racing with sloops, as well as limitations on draught. As such, I have reverted the top formula to reflect the change. The article is still wrong and incomplete.Nuttyrave (talk) 12:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Proposal ChangesAmericascupfreak (talk) 16:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

update references

can we find a better link/citation for "skene 1941" the hyperlink just goes back to the Wikipedia page. Rqds (talk) 03:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

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