Talk:Theseus

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The movie Immortals is an adaptation and amalgamation of many of the myths surrounding Theseus 2603:8090:2240:C8:C4FD:D0B1:CA25:C226 (talk) 03:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

"* Theseus appears as an antagonist in the PlayStation 2 video game God of War II by Santa Monica Studio, voiced by Paul Eiding. He is depicted as the horsekeeper of the Sisters of Fate and holds the key to various locks guarding the Steeds of Time. He encounters the main protagonist, Kratos on the Island of Creation, when the latter appears to try and change his fated death at Zeus' hands at the beginning of the game. Theseus provokes and battles Kratos only to meet his end after Kratos brutally slams his head with a door. However, Theseus is presumably restored to life when Kratos travels back in time to fight Zeus, which in essence possibly resets the events that occurred on the Island of Creation." That information above needs to be re-added in the video game section of theseus page as the character was portrayed in the God of War 2 video game 2600:1014:B085:7C55:6518:A5F4:6F0E:6CF3 (talk) 13:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

This seems like trivia to me Furius (talk) 14:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Not every mention of Theseus warrants mention here. We would need reliable sources (see WP:RS) which say something relevant, significant or notable about Theseus. Per MOS:POPCULT:

Cultural references about a subject should not be included simply because they exist. A Wikipedia article may include a subject's cultural impact by summarizing its coverage in reliable secondary or tertiary sources. A source should cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth; it should not be a source that merely mentions the subject's appearance in a movie, song, television show, or other cultural item.

Paul August ☎ 14:23, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

looking at the "adaptations of the myth" section, the point you made is not a very good and solid one especially since the game features greek mythology which theseus is part of. 2600:1014:B075:85B1:C18E:5FB0:6050:9C91 (talk) 14:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

No ancient sources cite the games in question as the Panathenaea, because these were instituted in 566 BC, well after the heroic age, and in the historical record. Even later antique authors do not state this. There were of course games at Athens before the institution of this festival--and in fact a probable reason for conflating the story of Minos's son and Theseus with them is that Theseus himself was supposed in Athenian myth to have founded these proto-games. It is disconcerting to follow the link to the P.G. within the mythological account and read that they were founded in the mid sixth century, well after the age of myth. ~2026-36174-57 (talk) 10:16, 21 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

No. Apollodorus states that they were the Panathenaic Games. See Apollodorus, 3.15.7:

But he himself came to Athens and celebrated the games of the Panathenian festival, in which Androgeus, son of Minos, vanquished all comers.

See also Hard's Routledge Handbook of Greek Mythology, p. 340. – Michael Aurel (talk) 13:44, 23 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

This article is terrible. It discusses the "biography" of Theseus without any systematic discussion of the sources that support each biographical claim. The reader is no wiser as to the documents that support this biography beyond the citation of rather inadequate modern documents such as the Loeb library. ~2026-38906-20 (talk) 13:14, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply