Talk:The Consul
The introduction of the article mentions Rosemary Kuhlmann for this role, but AmadeusOnline has Gloria Lane (note nr.5). Anybody out there with a reliable print
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Premiere cast - The Secretary
The introduction of the article mentions Rosemary Kuhlmann for this role, but AmadeusOnline has Gloria Lane (note nr.5). Anybody out there with a reliable printed source to solve this discrepancy? --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- If I read this article correctly, Kuhlmann sang in the Broadway run in New York, which took place a month after the premiere in Philadelphia, so I assume Gloria Lane sang in the Philadelphia premiere (or is the late hour playing tricks with my brain?).--Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- The article states Kuhlmann was offered the role to complete the Broadway run. Since Amadeus also has Gloria Lane for the Broadway premiere, I suppose Kuhlmann was called in to replace Gloria Lane for some reason. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I think Lane did originate the part. While I don't believe this is considered a reliable source per wikipedia, an acquaintance of mine has meticulously gone through public records at the Free Library of Philadelphia (which has an extensive collection of opera programs), the library at Temple University, the archives at the Academy of Music (Philadelphia), all of Philadelphia's newspapers, etc. and compiled the data into a searchable format at http://frankhamilton.org/ph/. See http://frankhamilton.org/ph/ph2.pdf for details of The Consul premiere. 4meter4 (talk) 23:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Having had a second look at the on-line catalogue entry for the Naxos release, that also has Gloria Lane (no mention of Kuhlmann at all), so I went ahead and changed the names in the introduction. Thanks for yr help. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 23:35, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Its not surprising that Kuhlmann was placed there in error. The Broadway run was what made the opera famous and much of the original cast from Philadelphia remained with the show. Thanks to you for discovering the mistake. I made a clarifying note in the article on Kuhlmann as well.4meter4 (talk) 23:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Having had a second look at the on-line catalogue entry for the Naxos release, that also has Gloria Lane (no mention of Kuhlmann at all), so I went ahead and changed the names in the introduction. Thanks for yr help. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 23:35, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I think Lane did originate the part. While I don't believe this is considered a reliable source per wikipedia, an acquaintance of mine has meticulously gone through public records at the Free Library of Philadelphia (which has an extensive collection of opera programs), the library at Temple University, the archives at the Academy of Music (Philadelphia), all of Philadelphia's newspapers, etc. and compiled the data into a searchable format at http://frankhamilton.org/ph/. See http://frankhamilton.org/ph/ph2.pdf for details of The Consul premiere. 4meter4 (talk) 23:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- The article states Kuhlmann was offered the role to complete the Broadway run. Since Amadeus also has Gloria Lane for the Broadway premiere, I suppose Kuhlmann was called in to replace Gloria Lane for some reason. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- If I read this article correctly, Kuhlmann sang in the Broadway run in New York, which took place a month after the premiere in Philadelphia, so I assume Gloria Lane sang in the Philadelphia premiere (or is the late hour playing tricks with my brain?).--Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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