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I think a more reasonable modern view of socialism can be summarised better with amended version:

'Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social supervision of key aspects of an economy, as opposed to unchecked private ownership.' ~2026-20912-7 (talk) 23:22, 10 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

The current first sentence is cited to multiple sources with quotations. You're thinking of social democracy. Yue🌙 (talk) 01:07, 12 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

I must agree with the proposed amendment. No modern definition of socialism should include government ownership of the means of production. 5198blk (talk) 05:51, 7 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Social ownership is not synonymous with government ownership. As that article says, it

can take the form of community ownership, state ownership, common ownership, employee ownership, cooperative ownership, and citizen ownership of equity. LastDodo (talk) 07:52, 7 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

I do not see citizen ownership in the opening paragraph. Citizen ownership would largely be private, even with stock exchanges. It's not social ownership. 5198blk (talk) 15:56, 7 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

I simply copy pasted from the opening paragraph of the social ownership article. LastDodo (talk) 09:19, 8 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Also it does not mention that socialism is an economic system, only a political and economic philosophy. Should there be seperate pages for socialism (political/economic philosophy) and socialism (economic system) with a disambiguation? NonEuclideanG (talk) 02:31, 3 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

@NonEuclideanG: Socialist economics (titled "Socialism (economic system)" when it was first created in December 2015, with material split from this article). – Vipz (talk) 02:50, 3 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

I think that social democrats should be excluded from this article because social democracy isn't A form of socialism. Dougislavafishkingandhischickensarenamedbriananddoodoo2000hi (talk) 09:03, 2 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

What on earth is this massive section doing in this article? It's a valid topic, but in its own right, not on this page. BobFromBrockley (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

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change ((Jaroslav Vanek)) to ((Jaroslav Vaněk)) ~2026-45448-18 (talk) 10:13, 21 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Done, thanks. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 13:45, 21 August 2026 (UTC)Reply