Talk:Sač

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In Bulgaria, сач or сачѐ is a flat clay plate, on which meat and vegetables are placed to cook on the table itself, and fat is not used. It is not covered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.137.72.33 (talk) 10:43, 22 April 2011‎

I would like to add, that what the above poster mentioned time ago is the common type of saj used in Anatolia as well (modern Turkey). I think it should be mentioned here as well; I have never heard about the covered sač mentioned here before. Someone should update the article or make a separate page, as they are definitely not the same thing. --92slim (talk) 11:02, 7 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

... as all of those we have are showing a cast-iron pan or pot as their main subject, with a lid somewhere on the side that doesn't look essential. Either the sač is the lid, or the article must be rewritten.

If the photos are telling the real story, the lid has lost its importance, as any tall, bulging lid would do, while the heavy cast-iron pot placed directly on the embers is what matters now. Check out the photos of the Romanian ţest (at "References", via DuckDuckGo): strictly a "lid", or cover, nothing else! Maybe that's what was meant by sač in the past as well, but it has disappeared by now? What's sure is that one cannot cook dishes with lots of sauce, like those in the photos, directly on the embers & ashes.

Also, as the Turkish colleague wrote here-above: any proof the Turks use such a pot-less lid? They most certainly use the saj, which they call saç, but that's a different, lid-less story.

NO SOURCES! Anyone can make things up, here we need reliable sources. Arminden (talk) 20:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I have done some looking, and as far as I can tell this is the same thing as Tava. It is therefore my belief that they should be merged. They are similar designs for similar food, and even the article for tava mentions 'saj' (same pronunciation as 'sač' as an alternate name for it. Mebigrouxboy (talk) 16:31, 5 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Oppose; I agree that the names overlap, for understandable reasons, but different objects are being described. On Tava we have a reversible flying pan, while on Sač we have a (simple) lidded convection oven. Different topics should have different pages, even if their names are similar. Klbrain (talk) 08:58, 15 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Closing, given the uncontested objection with no support and stale discussion. Klbrain (talk) 15:37, 21 August 2023 (UTC)Reply