Talk:Rumi

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A consensus has been reached on this talk page that Rumi has a Persian heritage. The consensus is based entirely on reliable sources that establish his birthplace and native language within a Persian cultural-historical context. Before reopening a debate on Rumi's ethnicity, please read WP:V, WP:Weight, and WP:RS, as well as Talk:Rumi/Rumi's heritage. See also modern, authoritative biographies of Rumi, such as that of Professor Franklin Lewis, and note the relative ubiquity of such descriptions as "Persian poet Rumi" and "Persian mystic Rumi" in Google Books and Google Scholar sources.

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It should say: Jalaluddin Muhammad ibn Muhammad Rumi al-Bakri TasawwufEditor (talk) 00:36, 29 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

This article fails to mention his descent from Abubakr as-Siddiq TasawwufEditor (talk) 00:38, 29 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Please, if you have good sources confirming your information, be bold and add this to the article. Lova Falk (talk) 11:11, 11 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

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Rumi was born in Balkh, in present-day Afghanistan. However, incorrect information is currently presented on the Wikipedia page, which claims he was born in Wakhsh (present-day Tajikistan). This claim is historically and factually inaccurate. Please change his place of birth to Balkh, Afghanistan.

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~2026-23027-99 (talk) 03:08, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before posting an edit request. Rumi's birthplace has been the subject of multiple prior talk page discussions (see the archives) and a consensus will be needed to change it. Day Creature (talk) 05:25, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

yhoo Ande are ngoku ~2026-26239-35 (talk) 16:18, 30 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

ngadendikhale😭 ~2026-26239-35 (talk) 16:19, 30 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Proposed Text/Change:

I would like to propose the inclusion of one of Rumi's own quatrains (rubai) where he explicitly refers to his origins. This verse provides crucial primary-source context to the ongoing academic discussion regarding his identity.

The Verse (Transliteration & Translation):

“Bigâne megîrîd merâ zîn kûyem

Der kûy-i şumâ hâne-i hod mîcûyem

Düşmen neyem her çend ki düşmen rûyem

Aslem Türkest egerçi Hindû gûyem”

English Translation:

"Do not consider me a stranger, I am from this land;

I seek my own home in your quarters.

Although I may look like an enemy, I am not;

My origin is Turk, even though I speak 'Hindu' (metaphor for Persian/Foreign)."

Source:

Mawlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Rūmī, Divan-i Kabir (also known as Kulliyat-i Shams-i Tabrizi).

Reason for Request:

While Rumi wrote primarily in Persian, this specific verse is frequently cited by scholars (such as those from the Turkish Historical Society and various Rumi experts) as evidence of his self-identification with Turkic heritage. Adding this would provide a more balanced view of how Rumi defined himself, alongside the existing information about his Persian literary output and birthplace in Balkh. Hrnyil (talk) 10:21, 5 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Is his language, indian? No. Therefore the sentence is not about ethnicity, read about the meanings of “ turk “ and “ hindu “ in Persian literature. Besides, rumi himself said in his poem that he is not turkic: تو ماه تُرکی و من اگر تُرک نیستم

دانم من این قدر که به تُرکی است آب سو

You are the moon of Turkic beauty, and though I am not a Turk,

I know this much: in Turkic, “āb” means “sū.”

thank you for very smart scholarship. ~2026-45277-21 (talk) 17:39, 19 August 2026 (UTC)Reply