Talk:Pre-installed software

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Text or other creative content from this version of Product bundling was copied or moved into Pre-installed software with this edit on 26 September 2011. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

The content of Craplet was merged into Pre-installed software. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

I have edited to change the spelling to craplet rather than crapplet, because it seems to be more popular, generally. The article itself uses this spelling everywhere except for the previously changed heading (it was changed by Gaerteuth on 14 February 2014). Here's what I found:

Also, I removed the quotes in the heading because it looks ugly with them and neat without them. Besides, if it's a term that's being used to describe something, I don't find any reason to quote it just because it's not in an official dictionary yet. -- ADTC ^{Talk Ctrb} 16:06, 11 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Surely if you're going to redirect from bloatware, and use bloatware references, the word should at least be mentioned 1.123.19.92 (talk) 11:49, 14 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Although lots of naïve people will call crapware bloatware, they are NOT the same thing. Bloatware refers ONLY to software that has an enormous file size when it doesn't need to. This can be caused by a compiler that isn't very effecient. Or a developer who includes lots of unwanted or virtually useless features. The "Bloatware" complaint was used against versions of Microsoft Office especially in the 1990's, and to a lessor extent Windows OS itself, when those programs grew so large on disk that they would take up more than half of the space available on affordable hard drives of affordable computers. This was bad, because almost everyone needed to use at least Windows, Excel and Word for work or school. As of 2016, hard drives have enormous capacities in comparison to major software & operating systems, so we don't hear the word "bloatware" anymore. While crapware is sometimes also bloatware, it is not necessarily so, and they are completely different ideas. Only uninformed noobs would use these words interchangeably. Bloatware deserves its own article, as its causes and solutions are quite different from those of Crapware, and concern fundamental issues of computer science. Ace Frahm (talk) 17:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Reply