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please put the painting back
it was awesome and perfectly captured the subject matter! 50.108.10.65 (talk) 01:11, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Lead image
We should reach a consensus over the lead image, or lack thereof. MOS:LEADIMAGE is the relevant guideline.
I support having no image, as is permitted per the first bullet point there. This seems like a good example of an article that has "no easy representation". The Vixen poster seems too sexually suggestive and unencyclopedic and I am strongly against it.
If people really want an image, I guess now's a time to gather candidates for an RfC (for which "no image" should be an option). Crossroads -talk- 23:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- RfC is certainly preferred over the passive edit war that is currently occurring. I support either no image or an image that is unambiguously encyclopedic; agreed that the Vixen poster probably is not a good choice. I saw no problem with the prior painting; other classical art pieces might also be a fit. Jtrevor99 (talk) 01:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- The prior painting (Szał, Podkowiński) was such an excellent and tasteful balance for an encyclopedia. It should be restored. Glenohumeral13 (talk) 17:23, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Crossroads and Glenohumeral13: I put the Frenzy of Exultations painting in rev 1093101727 on 14 June 2022 and there were no problems for over two years (except three days later the addition). I think it was a good picture for depicting this not-so-easy subject. Now that it has been removed and with the disagreement over which image to put at the top of this article, an edit war has begun. -- ZandDev 16:09, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Alza08: On February 10, 2024 user Alza08 changed the lead image with File:Vixen poster 01.jpg, stating that "it unambiguously illustrates the article content". After that on July 14, 2024 user Rim sim added two gifs, soon removed by Crossroads. On November 22, 2024 user Alza08 changed again the lead image, reinstating the poster (saying that the previous one was "irrelevant"). The same day user Crossroads removed the image, leaving the article incipit image-free. The day later user AirmanAbir18plus messed up a bit with illustrations, but at the end he chose the Ecstasy painting (File:Szał uniesień, Gallery of 19th-Century Polish Art in the Sukiennice, 2022, 02.jpg). Three days later (27 nov) user Alza08 removed the image again because "there is no evidence that image is associated with the subject content". And later this discussion started... -- ZandDev 16:28, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Crossroads, Jtrevor99, Glenohumeral13, and Alza08: So how do we proceed? -- ZandDev 11:38, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- I would suggest putting together candidates for an RfC and then after some preliminary discussion, running it. Crossroads -talk- 23:58, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I asked here and here. -- ZandDev 09:09, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I would suggest putting together candidates for an RfC and then after some preliminary discussion, running it. Crossroads -talk- 23:58, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Crossroads, Jtrevor99, Glenohumeral13, and Alza08: So how do we proceed? -- ZandDev 11:38, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Alza08: On February 10, 2024 user Alza08 changed the lead image with File:Vixen poster 01.jpg, stating that "it unambiguously illustrates the article content". After that on July 14, 2024 user Rim sim added two gifs, soon removed by Crossroads. On November 22, 2024 user Alza08 changed again the lead image, reinstating the poster (saying that the previous one was "irrelevant"). The same day user Crossroads removed the image, leaving the article incipit image-free. The day later user AirmanAbir18plus messed up a bit with illustrations, but at the end he chose the Ecstasy painting (File:Szał uniesień, Gallery of 19th-Century Polish Art in the Sukiennice, 2022, 02.jpg). Three days later (27 nov) user Alza08 removed the image again because "there is no evidence that image is associated with the subject content". And later this discussion started... -- ZandDev 16:28, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm confused. How is a naked woman on a horse related to orgasm? The painting's article doesn't seem to provide any helpful info here. GrinningIodize (you just lost the game) (talk) 17:06, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
- I’d say “naked woman on a horse” isn’t quite an accurate description of the painting. It’s more about the feeling and vibe captured by the painting, hence the name Frenzy of Exultations. The wild eyes of the horse, the glee and peace in the woman’s face, the seeming glow of the hair almost like fire, the murky, swirling patterns: all seem to express the feeling of the subject. Spelling it out in so many words is rather awkward, which is why the painting is a great representation. It captures what is impolite to express in language, something deeper than a diagram. Glenohumeral13 (talk) 16:05, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Crossroads and Glenohumeral13: I put the Frenzy of Exultations painting in rev 1093101727 on 14 June 2022 and there were no problems for over two years (except three days later the addition). I think it was a good picture for depicting this not-so-easy subject. Now that it has been removed and with the disagreement over which image to put at the top of this article, an edit war has begun. -- ZandDev 16:09, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
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