The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the Old National Library Building, a much-beloved national icon of Singapore, was demolished despite a rare display of public opposition?
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Tone problems
Latest comment: 19 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Large parts of this article do not have an encyclopedic tone. Some examples:
"the rare display of civic activism on its preservation became a watershed event in generating greater awareness of Singapore's heritage and its conservation in future."
The section headline: "Gone but not forgotten"
"the city planners got the message loud and clear - To think with the head and heart in future."
"as a symbolic gesture of the new connecting with the old and its legacy in the hearts of Singaporeans."
As per highlighted concerns, I've make the neccesary amendments on the tone of my article. Thk u for your feedback. -- Aldwinteo17:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
References
Latest comment: 19 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion
Per WP:FOOTNOTE:
"Avoid using Ibid or similar abbreviations in footnotes. Other editors who add new references to the article may not take the time to correct Ibid references broken by their addition. Furthermore, not all readers are familiar with the meaning of the term. If a reference is reused in more than one footnote, it is preferable to use the format "Smith, Short Title, 182" rather than "Ibid, 182", so as to avoid these problems, or use named references if appropriate."
–Chacor09:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, this has been bugging me too. Anyway, I've fixed it. I actually prefer citing the whole work instead of page numbers, and combining the citations. If there is consensus I will make the change that way. --Rifleman 8211:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Noted Chacor, am learning along the way. Thk u Rifleman 82 for making the nec amendments earlier & defending my works all these while. -- Aldwinteo15:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
GA Review
Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion
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I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:
There are uncited statements, including entire pargaraphs, throughout the article. These have been tagged as such since March 2024.
The lead focuses on the controversy and demise of the building, but does not contain much information about its construction or pre-2004 history. I suggest that an additional paragraph be added to include this information.
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There are uncited statements, including entire pargaraphs, throughout the article. These have been tagged as such since March 2024. The lead focuses on the controversy and demise of the building, but does not contain much information about its construction or pre-2004 history. I suggest that an additional paragraph be added to include this information. Z1720 (talk) 15:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I also checked the reviewed version back in 2014 which also had significant portions uncited. Some of the wording is also awkward and unencyclopedic. And yeah, it mainly covers its history and very little of the building design itself. I mean, I've worked on a historical monument Singapore Conference Hall which is modelled upon Epicgenius' work on various NYC landmarks.--ZKang123 (talk) 08:27, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
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GA review
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I am satisfied this meets the GAN criteria, and shall pass it accordingly. Excellent work on bringing it back to GA, especially for such an important landmark! Icepinner09:34, 5 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
The five-storey building, alongside the offices, lecture hall, and mezzanine, was among the few areas to receive air-conditioning Ngl the phrasing is a bit weird. I'm presuming that the offices, lecture hall, and mezzanine were the only areas in the building to be air-conditioned, along with the library itself being one of the few areas in Singapore to be air-conditioned at the time. I think the former (the areas air-conditioned in the library) can be merged with the air-conditioning plant, which served the offices, lecture hall, and mezzanine. Keep in mind I haven't checked any sources, as I'm saving it for the spot-check. Icepinner10:55, 2 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
In 1964, the library was expanded with a Southeast Asia Room, which included archives, journals, newspapers, and photographs relating to Southeast Asia. I think the second Southeast Asia can be replaced with "the region" or something, since it's a bit repetitive. Icepinner10:55, 2 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
added terminals for reader's use which allowed free access to the internet at any of these locations; the National Library had three, two in the reference library and one in the loan section Should a colon be used for the National Library had three, or is the comma fine? Icepinner10:55, 2 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Actually, I think it might be worth adding when the NLB took ownership of the library. Upon reading National Library Board, there was a "national library of Singapore" organisation, and I don't think that's mentioned here (did said organisation order the library to be built? idk). Icepinner06:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
It seems that the National Library Board took over the library in 1995, the same year it was created. Before that, it's not really clear who ran the library. It just seems to have been the government before an official branch was made to manage it. Have added a mention nonetheless. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 05:52, 5 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Update: I have just found a new source and updated the article with it. It provides the proper timeline of the ownership of the library, alongside other information. You may check the new information added if you'd like. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 07:32, 5 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The Singapore Library used subscriptions as its main source of income, inevitably facing frequent financial difficulties what makes the Singapore Library face frequent financial difficulties due to relying on subscriptions as its main source of income "inevitable"? Icepinner11:30, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The source (Luyt 2008) doesn't specify, but I would assume a library in early colonial Singapore would only be appealing to the English-speaking members of society, let alone those willing to support it. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 15:23, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The building's frame would be made of reinforced concrete but feature a red-brick exterior, along with using fluorescent lighting. This implies that it was planned for the library's exterior to have fluorescent lighting, which I'm assuming is not the case? You may never know. Icepinner11:29, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
the word "Raffles" was dropped from "Raffles National Library" and "Raffles National Museum", becoming known as the "National Library" and "National Museum", respectively Any particular reason for this renaming? I also don't think it's relevant to mention the National Museum here. Icepinner11:29, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Moreover, planning an additional four new branches built in Yishun, Tampines, Hougang, and Woodlands suggest rephrasing to "there were plans to build four new branches..." or remove it. Icepinner06:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
thus giving the Museum precinct a peaceful and quiet ambience I'd recommend putting peaceful and quiet ambience in quotes (or whatever the source says) due to WIKIVOICE concerns. Icepinner06:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
the Straits Times Forum page Shouldn't it be The Straits Times? I also don't think "Forum" should be included in the italicisation, as that would imply the Forum page of The Straits Times is a separate publication, even though it is not. Icepinner06:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
the URA made public their definitive decision Either "public" or "definitive" is redundant? A definitive decision has to be made public, no? Icepinner06:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The library continued to operate before officially closing on 31 March 2004. Out of curiosity, was there any fanfare when it closed, like tons of people visiting the library? Icepinner08:39, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
[15]: Pass, but there's a PDF version on the NTU website, so I think it's okay to link it
[21] Problem: you're saying that From the 1980s to 1990s, the library would improve their services by utilising technology, yet the article you cited was from 1979. Icepinner23:53, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
[57] Concern: the National Library was located in the Central Region of Singapore may be allowed to be mentioned without a citation since it's repeated above, but I fear this may be SYNTH. Icepinner23:53, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
I agree that it is a little unclear, as I can't find a source specifically saying when the library was demolished, just that it was sometime during the construction of the tunnel. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 07:48, 5 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Other
Not a big fan of citing Biblioasia, but since it's mainly used for info that doesn't appear in other sources, I will leave it at that. Icepinner00:08, 5 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
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