Talk:Matthew Kelly

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Why is there no information about his arrest and court case? Yes, he was cleared, but to omit any reference to the events (while making it clear that he was completely cleared of all charges) is mystifying. I see the information was in there some time ago. But was removed. Why was that? – SchroCat (talk) 20:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I have re-added the information that was there previously, but was removed. I've trimmed this back to the main point, and left out the minor details. - SchroCat (talk) 11:49, 13 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

I have re-added as a WP:INVOLVED editor has removed all details. Koncorde (talk) 14:57, 19 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

It's been removed again. It is also relevant because the allegations effectively ended his TV Career. They were the reason that he went back into Theatre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.17.0.1 (talk) 17:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

I've again reinstated this information (minus the Daily Mail footnote, obviously) for the rationale mentioned here and in the edit summary from when it was last added. I suspect it will be deleted once again, but I'm going to assume good faith and hope that editors who wish to remove it choose to discuss it here first. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 15:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

I queried this at the Admin Noticeboard for BLP Topics and although it was reverted by a user at that noticeboard there was no explanation. I believe in its current form it needs proper context. For instance inclusion within his career to denote his return to theatre after the outcome of the case, rather than it being a separate slab of information without context. Koncorde (talk) 15:10, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, it could still do with some work to add context to this period of Kelly's life: however, I feel the "Personal life" section would benefit from being added to rather than by being repeatedly deleted. I also share your misgivings about an editor's possible COI, and I've commented on their user page to this effect. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 16:45, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

So, it has been reverted with what can only be described as a convoluted and inaccurate edit summary, dealt with step by step below:

• Not relevant. - says who?
• Right to be forgotten. - this is a formal process that nobody can indicate Matthew Kelly has begun. It would also only result in the de-linking of URL's in search engines.
• Rehabilitation of offenders act. - he isn't an offender, so not sure what would be rehabilitated?
• No offense committed no charges brought. - A lot of wikipedia content isn't related to criminal acts. There being an offence, or a charge, is irrelevant to the significance of the event.
• Not relevant or of public interest. - Not true [1][2][3][4][5] [6] the significance was enough to draw a public letter shared by several stars in support of his innocence and character [7] and his innocence, along with other victims of accusations, was made part of a wider discussion by the BBC.[8]. He has since conducted an interview with The Times relating to the impact of the accusations and arrest, and the personal trauma it visited upon his mental health, and lasting damage to his career and personal relationships [9], [10], was the subject of a personal and sympathetic Op Ed of the changes to his personality.[11] and the case was subject of a Select Committee discussion relating to his case:[12]. He was also referenced a Standard Note research briefing issued to MP's discussing the "Anonymity in rape cases" [13].

Per my earlier comments, the fact that this had such a significant impact upon Matthew Kelly and the significance of the arrest and media coverage generated such a fall out as to be discussed at a Parliamentary level suggests that there was and likely still is a significant public interest; if only to highlight the injustice. Koncorde (talk) 10:14, 3 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

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There is a link added to the mention of Operation Arundel that goes to a page that makes no mention of the said Operation, or Matthew Kelly. Can its existence be clarified or removed? 2A02:C7F:8ECF:9900:44DA:D8B:C38A:A3D2 (talk) 11:39, 27 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

It links to the Operation Ravine, which per the text states: "A previous investigation into the Walton Hop disco, Operation Arundel, resulted in the convictions of Chris Denning and music mogul Jonathan King for child sex offences in the early 2000s. In January 2014, Merseyside Police carried out an independent review of Operation Arundel and related materials were shared with Operation Yewtree.[131]" Koncorde (talk) 13:00, 27 July 2020 (UTC)Reply