Talk:Lazarus

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There is a 1997 episode of Stargate SG-1 called "Cold Lazarus" that could be included. 50.98.117.160 (talk) 16:51, 11 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

See WP:PTM for why it's isn't -- it's not ambiguous with this title -- JHunterJ (talk) 04:37, 12 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Lazarus of Bethany which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 21:00, 18 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

On this page, the list of people with first name Lazarus is not exactly the same as the list on the page Lazarus (name):

• Lazarus (disambiguation): Bishop, rapper, bishop, Biblical figure, martyr, musician, Biblical figure
• Lazarus (name): rapper, Biblical figure, martyr, bishop, bishop, ice hockey player, saint, musician

Also the order is not the same. MOS:DABORDER shows under point 4 that ordering "chronologically as appropriate" is an option. I feel it is appropriate here, the current sorting is more confusing than helpful. Please review. - Wiki-uk (talk) 16:43, 18 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

So, first off this page does not list people with the given name Lazarus. This page lists people that are commonly known by the mononym Lazarus. So the contents of those two lists should not be the same, and as far as I can tell this page has the people it should. Name pages and disambiguation pages also fall under different projects with different guidelines, so there's no reason for the order to match up either. That said, we can certainly still examine whether we should adjust the sorting of this page. To me, it doesn't make a lot of sense to go with chrono order when we have zero dates of birth and only 2 dates of death out of 7 people. Yes, they fall vaguely into 3 chronological groups, but that doesn't seem like a good enough reason to abandon the default ordering. -- Fyrael (talk) 21:00, 18 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Also, the full statement you're referencing says "Entries are typically ordered first by similarity to the ambiguous title, then alphabetically or chronologically as appropriate"(bolding mine). In other words, entries that have same level of similarity can be ordered either alphabetically or chronologically. -- Fyrael (talk) 21:04, 18 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

You know what, forget all that. I actually do kinda like the ordering that you implemented, in spite of the guidelines. Aside from grouping them chronologically, it also separates them nicely into mythical figures, actual religious historical persons, and modern musicians. It's aaaalmost worth making subsections. -- Fyrael (talk) 21:12, 18 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Fyrael! - Wiki-uk (talk) 16:16, 21 October 2019 (UTC)Reply