Talk:Kevin Hartz
I've been asked to help update Kevin's article, and hope to clean it up so it doesn't need to be flagged anymore. Hopefully an unconnected editor can review an
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I've been asked to help update Kevin's article, and hope to clean it up so it doesn't need to be flagged anymore. Hopefully an unconnected editor can review and help.
1) Please help expand the lead as follows, since it is incomplete. As per growing consensus, the lead is unsourced, and instead is just a summary of the information that will be in the article after this request is answered.
| − | '''Kevin Hartz''' is an American | + | '''Kevin Hartz''' is an American entrepreneur and venture capitalist. He is currently a co-founder and general partner of A*, an early stage venture capital firm. He co-founded [[Eventbrite]], a publicly traded company, and served as the CEO. Before Eventbrite, he co-founded and was CEO of [[Xoom Corporation]], a money remittance company that was acquired by PayPal in 2015. He is also a prolific technology investor. |
Done with "prolific" removed, per below concerns. STEMinfo (talk) 23:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
2) I'd like to improve the sourcing in the biography. I'm using nowiki tags so you can see the source code with refs and just cut and paste it.
| − | Hartz was born in [[Berkeley, California]], and raised in [[Orinda, California]] | + | Hartz was born in [[Berkeley, California]], and raised in [[Orinda, California]].<ref name=yourtech>https://www.yourtechstory.com/2020/09/22/xoom-ultimate-electronics-payment-service-provider-that-helping-more-than-millions-of-consumers-worldwide/</ref> He attended [[Miramonte High School]] in Orinda.<ref name=bloom1>{{Cite news |title=Bloomberg |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-how-did-i-get-here/kevin-hartz.html |access-date=2022-10-15 |newspaper=Bloomberg.com}}</ref> He holds a [[Bachelor of Arts and Science]] in history from [[Stanford University]], as well as a [[Master of Arts]] degree in British history from [[University College, Oxford|University College]], [[Oxford University|Oxford]].<ref name=bloom1/> |
Done added cn template to questionable source, per below discussion. STEMinfo (talk) 00:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
3) Please replace the first paragraph of the career section, to replace LinkedIn and a press release as sources.
| − | Hartz began his career at [[Silicon Graphics]] (SGI) as the [[product manager]] for the [[virtual reality]] browser, Cosmo Player | + | Hartz began his career at [[Silicon Graphics]] (SGI) as the [[product manager]] for the [[virtual reality]] browser, Cosmo Player.<ref name=yourtech/> Later, Hartz co-founded ConnectGroup, a start-up providing high-speed internet access to the hotel industry.<ref name=yourtech/> In 1998, it was acquired by [[LodgeNet]].<ref>https://techcrunch.com/2011/03/23/social-shopping-startup-shopsquad-lands-1-25m-in-funding-from-heavy-hitters/</ref> |
Done added cn templates to questionable source, per below discussion. STEMinfo (talk) 00:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
4) The second paragraph of the career section can use some refs.
| − | In 2001, Hartz co-founded [[Xoom Corporation|Xoom]], an international money [[remittance]] business, along with [[Alan Braverman]] | + | In 2001, Hartz co-founded [[Xoom Corporation|Xoom]], an international money [[remittance]] business, along with [[Alan Braverman]].<ref name=bloom1/> He served first as CEO until 2005,<ref name=bloom1/> and then on the board of directors through its 2012 IPO<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1315657/000119312513033425/d364901ds1a.htm |title=Xoom Corporation |publisher=[[U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission]] |date= 2013-02-01}}</ref> and subsequent acquisition by [[PayPal]] in 2015.<ref>https://techcrunch.com/2015/07/01/paypal-agrees-to-buy-xoom-for-890-million/</ref> The company had a total equity value of $1.1 billion at that time.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/02/business/paypal-acquires-xoom-for-stake-in-digital-money-transfers.html?_r=0 |title=PayPal Acquires Xoom for Stake in Digital Money Transfers |work=[[The New York Times]] |date= 2015-07-01}}</ref> |
Done refs look fine. STEMinfo (talk) 00:26, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
5) In the third career paragraph, I'd like to simply change "the" to "a" in front of Eventbrite, and add a line at the end with a source, about his tenure at Eventbrite.
| − | In 2006, Hartz founded [[Eventbrite]], | + | In 2006, Hartz founded [[Eventbrite]], a global self-service ticketing platform, along with [[Julia Hartz]] and Renaud Visage.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Ohikuare |first=Judith |date=28 June 2012 |title=Bad Times Have Treated Us Well at Eventbrite |url=https://www.inc.com/magazine/201207/judith-ohikuare/julia-hartz-eventbrite-how-i-did-it.html |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220927200330/https://www.inc.com/magazine/201207/judith-ohikuare/julia-hartz-eventbrite-how-i-did-it.html |archive-date=27 September 2022 |access-date=19 August 2023 |website=Inc.com}}</ref> Kevin Hartz served as CEO for the first 11 years of the company and Chairman for 18 years.<ref name=bloom1/> |
Done STEMinfo (talk) 00:36, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
6) In the fourth career paragraph, I'd like to rewrite the info slightly to make it flow better, and remove duplicate content about serving on the board at Eventbrite, that's addressed elsewhere.
| − | + | In September 2016, Hartz joined [[Founders Fund]] and served as a partner.<ref name=bloom1/> He announced his exit from the company in June 2018.<ref>{{Cite news|url=http://fortune.com/2018/06/07/kevin-hartz-founders-fund/|title=Kevin Hartz Is Stepping Down as Partner at Founders Fund|work=Fortune|access-date=2018-09-18|language=en}}</ref> |
Done
7) At the end of the career section, I'd like to add a new paragraph to update the article.
In 2021, Hartz founded the venture capital firm A*, with co-founders Gautam Gupta and Bennett Siegel. The company focuses on raising funds for seed rounds, with followup Series A and B rounds for select portfolio companies.[1] Its first fund, Fund I, raised $300 million and closed in 2021.[1] In 2024, its second fund, Fund II, raised $315 million.[1]
Done STEMinfo (talk) 00:55, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
8) The last request is an update to the personal life section. The current info is unsourced. Hartz has four daughters now, but that can't be sourced. I'd like to ask that instead you just say daughters and not specify the number. See textdiff.
| − | Hartz lives in [[San Francisco]] with his wife, Julia Hartz, and | + | Hartz lives in [[San Francisco]] with his wife, Julia Hartz, and their daughters.<ref>https://fortune.com/2024/06/29/eventbrite-ceo-covid-management-business-family/</ref> |
Done I can't find any mention of four daughters, so seems to be a workaround for the number. If a source for four can be found, we can update it. STEMinfo (talk) 01:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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Kevinehartz (talk) 00:12, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just a few points...
- a) The use of the word 'prolific' in part 1 above doesn't seem to represent a neutral point of view (WP:NPOV).
- b) I'm concerned that on 6 occasions above you attempt to use as a reference what appears to be an inadmissible non-independent source written by the subject himself (i.e. the Bloomberg source).
- c) Also, from the content of the 'Your Tech Story' source (used 3 times above) it seems fairly clear that it isn't a reliable, independent source. This impression is reinforced by the statement elsewhere on the website saying
If you want to share an inspiring story of a startup (we equally value failed, successful and next unicorn club members), founder, team or product, drop us an email at yourtechstory
, which would seem to identify the site as one which subjects contact to install non-independently written stories about themselves. Axad12 (talk) 04:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC)- STEMinfo, the Bloomberg and YourTechStory sources were clearly very bad sources. Why do you continue to authorise COI edit requests while ignoring valid input provided by earlier volunteers?
- There is no hurry in getting these requests authorised, why not just wait for requesting editors to come with better source material?
- To be honest, it seems to me that your sole interest continues to be in "reducing the backlog" rather than in dealing with these requests in an appropriate fashion.
- That being the case, as per previous comments at Edge Hill University, you need to either slow down or stop dealing with these requests altogether.
- Regards, Axad12 (talk) 06:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Not Done. Reverted recent changes until independent sources are provided, as per note up thread. Axad12 (talk) 07:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry – thank you for letting me know I made a mistake. I should have known better on Edge Hill to just add one of the awards instead of both. I have a mild case of aspergers so sometimes I'm not able to collaborate effectively. Our reliable sources bulletin board says that Bloomberg can be used for uncontroversial information. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Baidu Baike. The Bloomberg source i tried to add is already in the article. I didn't think it was written by the subject, so it seemed independent, but please take it out if it doesn't belong. I thought the sources from TechCrunch seemed to be OK, per WP:TECHCRUNCH. If not, please disqualify them also. I used the yourtechstory link to replace a linkedin link. I thought that was better than a primary source, but you can decide. I included a CN with it since I read that you didn't like the source. All I could find about including LinkedIn for sourcing is this Social media as a news source. Fortune is not on the reliable sources noticeboard, so I can understand why you removed it. Sorry again for the inconvenience. Happy to work with you to keep improving the encyclopedia. STEMinfo (talk) 01:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me.
- I've now removed the material sourced to LinkedIn and the Bloomberg article, plus some associated text sourced to a dead link.
- Re: Bloomberg, I agree that generally it a good quality source but the issue here was that the specific article in question was self-authored and thus non-independent.
- If the requesting editor above would like to reinstate the removed material or revisit including the rejected material above then all they need to do is provide good quality fully independent sources.
- Thanks for your comments above. All noted. I fully agree with your sentiment "let's keep improving the encyclopaedia"! Regards, Axad12 (talk) 10:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry – thank you for letting me know I made a mistake. I should have known better on Edge Hill to just add one of the awards instead of both. I have a mild case of aspergers so sometimes I'm not able to collaborate effectively. Our reliable sources bulletin board says that Bloomberg can be used for uncontroversial information. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Baidu Baike. The Bloomberg source i tried to add is already in the article. I didn't think it was written by the subject, so it seemed independent, but please take it out if it doesn't belong. I thought the sources from TechCrunch seemed to be OK, per WP:TECHCRUNCH. If not, please disqualify them also. I used the yourtechstory link to replace a linkedin link. I thought that was better than a primary source, but you can decide. I included a CN with it since I read that you didn't like the source. All I could find about including LinkedIn for sourcing is this Social media as a news source. Fortune is not on the reliable sources noticeboard, so I can understand why you removed it. Sorry again for the inconvenience. Happy to work with you to keep improving the encyclopedia. STEMinfo (talk) 01:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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