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Private Eye
Does anyone know the cause of the 'falling out' with Private Eye? Did it start before, or because of, their lampoons of Miller? Bluedawe 21:54, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- He has accused it of antisemitism. But I don;t know if that was the cause of a consequence of the falling out. 81.154.214.165 (talk) 15:05, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Miller was widely perceived as pompous, entitled and self important in the 80s and 90s. This may have been unfair, but the view wasn't restricted to PE. PE certainly lampooned him reflecting this, but the satire was quite gentle. --Ef80 (talk) 20:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- As the world's cleverest man, he was perfectly entitled to be pompous and self important. Even into his 70s and 80s! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Miller was widely perceived as pompous, entitled and self important in the 80s and 90s. This may have been unfair, but the view wasn't restricted to PE. PE certainly lampooned him reflecting this, but the satire was quite gentle. --Ef80 (talk) 20:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
National Service
Did he do NS, and if not, why not? Possibly exempt as a medical student? Seadowns (talk) 12:43, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
- He was born in 1934 and would normally have been conscripted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.7.73 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- He seems to have studied until 1959 and worked as a civilian until 1961. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.7.73 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- He seems to have been in New York as a civilian in 1963. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.7.73 (talk • contribs) 15:28, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- He seems to have studied until 1959 and worked as a civilian until 1961. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.7.73 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Oratorium?
I see that Miller's production of Bach's St Matthew Passion is mentioned under a heading which reads "Oratorium". Did Miller specifically insist on using this form to describe the work? If so, it might be worth mentioning. Or is it just a mistake by an editor whose first language is not English? If this is the case, I propose we change the heading to "Oratorio". LynwoodF (talk) 15:09, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- As nobody has come back on this, I shall make the change I proposed. LynwoodF (talk) 10:25, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
assessment by child psychiatrists ?
the childhood section states "The young Miller was brought for assessment to several child psychiatrists, including Donald Winnicott" sorry can this be explained. Presumably it is saying that, as a child, Jonathan Miller has issues with his mental health. Is that right ? There is no detail on this elsewhere. Is it that little or no further information is known. thank you. 82.11.163.59 (talk) 17:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- This source supports Seamus O'Mahony's review of the autobiography In Two Minds, saying: "As a boy, Jonathan Miller underwent psychoanalysis with distinguished figures in the British movement, such as Susan Isaacs and D. W. Winnicott (Bassett 2012: 34)". But he doesn't say exactly what the problem was. But O'Mahony does also say this: "
Ironically for a child psychiatrist, Miller père found it difficult to relate to his clever and somewhat hyperactive son, while his mother remained equally distant. “I was never kissed by either of my parents as a child, never embraced,” he told Anthony Clare when he appeared on In the Psychiatrist's Chair. The child Jonathan stammered and was attention-seeking: he compensated for his stammer by speaking in foreign accents and also developed an astonishing talent for mimicry, his repertoire including steam trains and chickens.
" I've added a bit of the explanation available. I expect In Two Minds may have more detail. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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