Talk:Frown

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A fact from Frown appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 September 2011. The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that it takes more muscles to smile than it does to frown? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Did you know archive/2011/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frown.

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It takes seventeen muscles to smile and forty-three to frown. ...so I guess sad people get more exercise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.171.76 (talk) 22:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Urban Myth. Not true 71.206.136.69 (talk) 01:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

[1], actually it's undetermined, unless you can bring some sort of proof besides "urban myth. not true" to the table. --205.143.204.198 (talk) 18:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

What? can you people count? there are only 20 facial muscles. Where did you get 17+43 from? Besides to show a minmum frown all you need to do is furl your eyebrow which uses like what 2 muscles? the mouth doesn't have to do anything.--121.204.47.19 (talk) 09:55, 18 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

The appearance of a frown varies from culture to culture.

Is this line true? I have heard that in his book, The Expressions of the Emotions, that Darwin had asked people from different cultures what emotion was being expressed in various photos, and that (I would say predictably) facial expressions were interpreted in the same way across cultures, and that this also included frowning. Unfortunately I don't have my copy of Expressions with me, and a quick search online doesn't seem to show up much new research about frowning, though apparently Darwin claimed that chimpanzees do not frown, and that it seems to be a uniquely human expression. Daemonax (talk) 05:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

I think it's true. From personal experience, if you ask an English person to frown, they will wrinkle their brow and look "angry" whereas in North America, apparently, a frown can also be a "sad" ): as well as an "angry" |:< expression. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.218.21.5 (talk) 13:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Article was promoted, here is an archive of the discussion.

The BrE and AmE definitions seem to refer to 2 different things (involving the brows and the mouth, respectively), and a dab page would be more appropriate than asserting the (main?) BrE definition and mentioning the (in my experience, only) AmE definition in passing in the 2nd paragraph. ~2026-43174-52 (talk) 06:52, 19 August 2026 (UTC)Reply