Talk:Building services engineering

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I think this article is well on the way to becoming more a collection of lists of links to companies rather than anything that should be in a enyclopaedia. I'd like to point out WP:LINKSTOAVOID. Most of the lists could possibly be put into categories or into separate pages called 'List of...' if they are notable. That way the original article could be left to say a bit more about what it is actually about. I had been thinking of removing most of a section of Floor and redirecting to here instead for underfloor services but it doesn't look like that would be good idea at the moment. I think this would be the right place if it was better. Dmcq (talk) 12:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

I agree. It's been more than a year since you've pointed this out, and the problem continues. If no one addresses this soon, I might trim down this article considerably per WP:NOTDIR. P. D. Cook ^{Talk to me!} 13:26, 19 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

All right, well I went ahead and trimmed things down a bit. P. D. Cook ^{Talk to me!} 14:20, 19 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

guys, if people are going to list things like 'number of companies' or 'number of employees', first of all it needs to be relevant, and secondly it needs context - are these figures for the uk, or the whole world. it looks like the writer is trying to justify the existence of the concept. stick to the relevant facts that are needed in an encyclopedia Inzy (talk) 00:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

I am proposing this merger because these two articles cover the exact same subject. The Architectural engineering article has the more general name, while the Building services engineering article has a country-specific name. Ironmatic1 (talk) 08:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

My understanding is that Building Services Engineering refers to the operation of buildings where Architectural Engineering refers to design and modification of buildings, which would lead me to oppose. Not the same subject. Toddst1 (talk) 01:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Closing, with no merge, given the uncontested objection and no support. Klbrain (talk) 14:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I tried to mention various related subdisciplines in the article.

I am not sure how to differentiate "building servives engineering" from "mechanical, electrical and plumbing", though.

Would it make sense to merge the two or can someone clarify their relation ?

KaiKemmann (talk) 16:36, 17 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

IMHO: MEP is a subset of Building Services Engineering, however the difference is very nuanced, and there are different opinions on this in different countries and milieu. From a European perspective, Building Services Engineering involves a higher degree of integrated design, encompassing not only services design & operation, but also design of the façade and other properties of the building fabric itself, such as acoustic & thermophysical properties (building physics etc.). I get the impression (maybe misconstrued) that MEP is mostly used in countries that also use the term Architectural Engineering, while Building Services Engineering encompasses both. Note also that the term HVAC is often used synonymously with MEP, though a pedant would disagree, and argue that HVAC omits sanitation (piped water services). Fortunately, Building Services encompasses all of these. Peter.schild (talk) 08:45, 30 July 2026 (UTC)Reply