Talk:Building automation

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It also describes the automation of hospitals, clean rooms, universities, high rise buildings, government buildings, water treatment facilities, etc.

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Building automation is a generic term. It describes the automation of an industrial building (block of offices, shop floor, parking garage, etc.) or an apartment complex. It is usually in reference to a commercial operation. Home automation describes the automation of a single apartment or house only. Home automation technology is usually somewhat different. This is in part due to the difference in the type of equipment being operated as well as the voltage of electric current being supplied to the two differing types of structures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.155.197 (talk • contribs)

Good point. While building automation and home automation may share some technologies, home automation has concerns that are largely unique from building automation (e.g. home theater setup, window-blind automation, mood-lighting, etc). I will remove the merge request from Home automation <--> Building automation. (I will still keep a merge request for other articles such as Intelligent building, since they can be split amongst the two main articles. -- Eptin 08:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Building automation and intelligent buildings should be merged into one article. Room automation, Home automation, and Domotics should be merged into a separate article under the heading Home automation. Takeitupalevel 03:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Home automation and domatics are now merged. I think room automation would be merged with intelligent building, it´s an office automation, no home automaion --HybridBoy 06:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

What should we do with these "Association" links? Do they count as commercial links (and therefore, as possible advertisement), or are they in the clear? I am not an expert, but they do not appear to contribute anything useful to the article. --Eptin 19:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

• eu.bac - European building automation and controls association
• CABA - Continental Automated Buildings Association

I think a professional association dealing with the topic at hand is basically an as an "official" of a site as we can get for a topic such as building automation. Therefore, I think the links are notable and meet our guidelines. I moved one association link that dealt with HVAC to the main HVAC article. Having these links in the article doesn't bother me, but if you think they are not informative or educational, or they seem too commercial, I wouldn't mind their removal either.-Andrew c 19:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I feel strongly that the merging of intelligent buildigns and automated buildings was in error. Atometed buildigns usually refers to the olders control systems, that wile autoamted, are unable to communicate with the systems other than the building systesm in any but the most rudimentary way.

Automated buildings require a high level of integration and are not scalable as each is highly unique.

THere is an emerging meme concerning buildings that do not have deep integrations, but instead have systems that are isolated, and have only surface interactions with each other. System to system interactions are choreographed rahter than controlled. Interoperability is at the informational rather than the name/value tag level of traditional control systems. Because of a higher level of abstraction, building systems can be exposed to and interact with enterprise systems.

THe merger eliminated this entire class of interactions, qualitatively different than the older model of integration —Preceding unsigned comment added by TobyConsidine (talk • contribs) 01:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Please see: http://smartech.gatech.edu/handle/1853/14063 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.72.70 (talk) 04:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Another merger is required with Building Management System (bad name as it abuses capital letters). Home automation should stay separate as it is a more cut-and-dried matter of agreements between vendors (such as the nVoy mark agreed to by IEEE 1905.1 compliant vendors, who already sell over 90% of the pre-nVoy devices into homes).

What is the value in discussing the historical single-purpose systems that were used prior to the 2010s? You can have history of building automation if you want. The trend today is clearly to integration, BACnet, etc., and while the historical networks used for building automation were of some interest previously they are of less interest now as the modern protocols have become affordable. We don't want to make the mistake of the powerline networking article where 95% of it is devoted to obsolete stuff no one is even selling anymore anywhere.

The Infrastructure section is confused and misleading. It starts off describing a physical part of a system, then discusses some application software and then goes on to building services equipment. A better breakdown would be to describe system elements (programmable controllers, dedicated controllers, networks, modems) then Software (time zones, occupancy, alarm management) and finally Building Systems (boilers, chillers, pumps).

Also, the section on Hot Water Systems is unclear. It suggests that heating systems and domestic hot water systems are the same, which is incorrect.

Stephen Woollard (talk) 08:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Improved somewhat, at least BACnet and optical fiber are not on the same list of "buses".

The "Smart Building Perception" section was added with this edit. It is unsourced and appears to be original research. A Google search finds no reliable sources, only republished versions of this Wikipedia article, therefore I removed the section. --momoricks 19:21, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

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How is a Building management system different from Building automation? --Kvng (talk) 18:47, 6 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

English page is outdated, is more current in Spanish Required then updated this page in English — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pckike (talk • contribs) 18:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

By "required", do you mean translate? 64.206.41.226 (talk) 17:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

"Ease of information availability problem". Wait, what? 64.206.41.226 (talk) 17:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

The paragrapgh describing disaster response mechanisms should be deleted because it has nothing to do with Building Managament Systems. The paragraph refers to floating buildings whereas Building Management Systems are compturised control and monitoring systems which are electronic and software in nature. It looks as if it has been inserted just because the article refers to Buildings. I am new to Wikipedia so have chosen not to make the deletion myself, but request this be done. Chrisirwin6 (talk) 12:26, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply