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A fact from Ashley Null appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 March 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Olympic team chaplain Ashley Null credits his work counseling elite athletes to his scholarly research on the Protestant Reformation?

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Did you know nomination

Latest comment: 1 year ago7 comments4 people in discussion

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 02:42, 9 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

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... that Olympic team chaplain Ashley Null credits his work counseling elite athletes on performance-based anxiety to his scholarly research on the Protestant Reformation?

Source: 'Nonetheless, for the past 40 years he has been attending elite competitions at the request of various athletes. The Games in Paris will be his sixth Olympics. When I ask what his academic studies could possibly offer a sports star, he laughs and explains that the Reformation was “the recovery of the gospel, and the gospel is the antidote to performance-based identity”. Who, more than anyone else, he asks, needs to know that their achievements aren’t the basis of their relationship with God, or their hope for wholeness?' https://www.premierchristianity.com/interviews/elite-sports-chaplain-ashley-null-the-gospel-is-the-antidote-to-performance-based-identity/17948.article

Reviewed: 0

Created by Dclemens1971 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:46, 10 February 2025 (UTC).Reply

I will review this. Butterdiplomat (talk) 14:04, 16 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Looks great to me, but welcome a second opinion given this is my first ever review. The only question I have is whether the Reformation referenced in the hook should be Protestant Reformation or English Reformation (Null’s specialty and referenced earlier in the interview). Since the source appears to be referring to the broader movement, I think Protestant Reformation is correct but welcome a second opinion. Butterdiplomat (talk) 15:12, 16 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

This article, created on 5 Feb, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, with no copyvio or blp violations apparent to me. No QPQ needed. @Butterdiplomat: I agree, Protestant Reformation seems right. However, @Dclemens1971: there's nothing about performance-based anxiety in the citation, so we'd have to change the hook to:

ALT1: ... that Olympic team chaplain Ashley Null credits his work counseling elite athletes to his scholarly research on the Protestant Reformation?

Otherwise, good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 16:08, 22 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

I'm good with the alternate hook, Tenpop421. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Alright, good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:47, 24 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

GA review

Latest comment: 9 months ago20 comments2 people in discussion

Passed. Icepinner 08:51, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Ashley Null/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Dclemens1971 (talk · contribs) 14:51, 3 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: Icepinner (talk · contribs) 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Not very experienced with BLPs or religion, but I'll try my best. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Finished with this review. Feel free to object to any comments. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Icepinner Thanks, will review in greater depth and reply within the next day or two. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:11, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Early life and education

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Optional: he received an M.Div. The full acronym of M.Div. should be used, I believe. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Y Done

Scholarship

Cranmer

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Optional: Cranmer's private papers I think we can link Cranmer. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Y Done
Optional: recantation of Protestant doctrines under Mary I Likewise with the above, I think we can link Mary I and recantation. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Y Done
Thomas Cranmer's Doctrine of Repentance was well-reviewed upon publication Not sure if we need a source stating that Null's publication was "well-reviewed", but I am aware that it's hard to word stuff like that, along with such statements causing issues to arise. I don't know to be honest, you're call. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- I guess this is a bit OR-y. I searched every academic review indexed in ProQuest/JSTOR, and they were all positive; I didn't find any negative reviews at all, but I also don't have a secondary source saying it was well-reviewed. Reworded.
Optional: Calvinist Is there a link for this? Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Y Done
the Continent What is "the Continent" in this context? Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Mainland Europe (I think this is a pretty standard usage).
and has been often misattributed directly to Cranmer I am not convinced the two sources can be used to support this claim. We need a source that says "'what the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies' is often misattributed to Cranmer". Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Good point. I have not found a suitable secondary source, so I've removed the claim.

Anglicanism

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ACNA what does it stand for? Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Anglican Church in North America. First reference in lead.

Clerical career

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Null was appointed canon theologian in the Diocese of Western Kansas in 2005, although he has spent most of his time based in Europe for his theological and historical research. This is uncited. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Another editor added a line (which is OR, so I've removed it) that bumped the citation away from the sentence it was originally intended to support. I've added the archived link to the original source, which validates the claim: https://web.archive.org/web/20250215210557/https://www.diowks.org/our-staff

Image

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File:Canon Ashley Null (cropped-200).jpg PDM

Sources

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Earwig detected some high numbers, but these were mostly quotes and proper names. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Spot-check

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The following sources will be checked, along with other sources used to support contentious claims:

[4] pass
[11] pass, but I would like clarification if Mockingbird is an RS in this field? Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- It's a respected theological magazine in mainline Protestantism, although pitched for a generalist/layperson audience rather than academics/scholars/specialists. I would consider it reliable for this use.
[16] pass
[19] a bit unsure of this, dunno if it would be "OR" to say that something is no longer mentioned on a website based on comparison of archived links. Icepinner 14:04, 17 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
- See above, this was added by a different editor and has been removed.
[26] pass

@Icepinner: I've replied to your comments above and made some edits to the article. Thank you for the review and let me know if you have other questions/comments! Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:40, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I'm satisfied that the nomination meets the GAN criteria and shall accordingly pass the article. Congrats! This reminds me, I need to catch up with the drive... Icepinner 08:45, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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