Talk:Absalom

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There are enough other references to Absalom that a disambiguation page should be made. This page needn't be cluttered up like this. Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 19:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Will someone kindly go in and remove all the ambiguous writing? Who exactly is "him" and "his" in the following sentence: "Joab thrust three spears through the heart of Absalom as he struggled in the branches and his ten armour-bearers came around and slew him." Whose armour-bearers? There are numerous examples. Either that, or dump the whole page. Tom NM (talk) 11:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

I've hopefully cleared up most of the ambiguities. I'm still not happy with most of the article and intend to do some more rewriting. Noisms (talk) 21:04, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Can someone please rewrite the "have sex with everything and anyone possible" line? It sounds like a troll wrote it. I'm not saying it isn't good to note the public-sex-with-ten-concubines thing, but it can be written a little more tastefully. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.113.61 (talk) 02:41, 29 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

The link to the Wood of Ephraim states that its location is East of the Jordan. ??? Also, there are over three dozen entries for the section Absalom in Art. Couldn't this be reduced? Mannanan51 (talk) 18:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)mannanan51Reply

Whoever edited this part of the life of Absalom never read the Bible itself. Instead of citing someone else who supposedly read the Bible (I doubt it), they need to start reading what the Bible actually says.

Absalom only raped his father's concubines AFTER he revolted against his father David, and only at the advice of his counselor Ahithophel (2 Samuel 16:20-22).

"David, attended only by the Cherethites and Pelethites and his former bodyguard that had followed him from Gath" Where on earth in the Bible did he find this information? It is pure speculation, but not indicated as such. When David got to Mahanaim, he was able to send an army of many thousands against the army of Israel, and his army was victorious against Absalom. Evidently, David had more friends and allies than this citation source indicated.184.97.224.190 (talk) 05:27, 7 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

The sentence structure of this section breaks down and it becomes incomprehensible. I would try to fix it, but I don't know how. Maproom (talk) 15:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Is the caterpillar in the Tim Burton-adaptation of 'Alice in Wonderland' Absalom or Absolem? According to the entry on the 'Alice in Wonderland (2010 film)' page, it's the latter. The internet seems to agree. But I don't believe either of these are adequate sources? I'll leave it in more professional hands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:402A:9E00:ED79:1254:1A99:D8EE (talk) 17:07, 4 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

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§Fiction says

In the novel Ender's Shadow by Orson Scott Card, the main character Bean invokes the quote to give solace to the kamikaze pilots Ender had unknowingly sent to their deaths to defeat the Formics.

There are many quotations in the article; which one is being referred to here?

--Thnidu (talk) 22:22, 28 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

The plot summary says in the fourth paragraph

However, Bean deduces from various clues that the "simulations" are real battles: Ender and his "jeesh" are commanding human fleets attacking Bugger planets via the Ansible, an instantaneous communications device.

But "jeesh" is never explained. An assistant? A gadget? A technique?

--Thnidu (talk) 22:26, 28 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Some Bible translations, etc. in English use an alternative transliteration: Absalon. Should this be added to the introductory paragraph of the article? --216.15.56.15 (talk) 10:27, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Although Absalom did avenge his sister's defilement by Amnon, ironically he was not much different from Amnon. As Amnon had sought the advice of Jonadab in order to rape Tamar, Absalom had sought the advice of Ahitophel who advised Absalom to have incestuous relations with his father's concubines in order to show all Israel how odious he was to his father [2 Samuel 16:20]). Likewise as Amnon had brought two curses upon himself for incest with his half sister and failing to fulfill the Torah Law, Absalom brought four curses upon himself for dishonoring his father, relations with his father's wife (concubines) and failing to fulfill the Torah Law (twice) (Deuteronomy 27:20, 26).^[1]The Rabbis explain that The concubines were not punished by G-d. They were violated by Absalom. Absalom with his own free will, choose to do that. It is true G-d created a world where we humans can choose good or evil, but the choice in the end remains ours. Although G-d had told David that his wives would be taken, he did not ordain or force Absalom to violate them. He just foretold it.In responce to a question that a lesson to be learned of the consequences from Absalom life is that his lust for power was so deep that he engaged in acts of chillul hashem and brought upon himself 4 curses from the Torah? The Rabbanic responce is Yes. He was a prince who could had almost anything. The only things he wanted were things he could not have. He lusted after his sister and his father's throne. Wealth is not determined by possessions but by mindset. In his mind, Absalom was a pauper. He only looked at what he did not have.^[2] 2603:6010:BB00:288B:A57A:641:8F6C:6221 (talk) 01:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply