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Declined by Hoary 18 months ago.This draft can't even decide whether its subject is "Xdi8" or "Shidinn". Quote 1: saying that "Shidinn" often refers specifically to the established phonology and vocabulary, similar to the concept of absolute geometry in mathematics. Who says this? How is this similar to absolute geometry? Quote 2: It's important to note that "Shidinn" often refers specifically to the established phonology and vocabulary, similar to the concept of absolute geometry in mathematics. Who says that noting this is important? (And is so much repetition necessary?) Quote: grammar is largely missing. Quote: the lack of a finalized grammar. So is it mostly missing, or is it mostly in place? Either way, who describes its state of completion, and where do they say it? Separate references from mere notes. (Notes can use Template:Efn.) | |
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Comment: Incomplete translation ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:23, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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Xdi8, formerly Xīnyǔ, Xīdīngyǔ, and Xīdǐngyǔ, is a constructed language created by Chinese folk linguist Huáng Quèfēi. Known for its unique one-to-one correspondence between Chinese characters and Shidinn words, the language integrates a constructed script with influences from southwestern Mandarin phonology, although it significantly deviates to establish a regularized sound system.
Writing System and Phonology
Shidinn utilizes a character set of 176 graphemes[1], each representing both a semantic component and a phonetic element. The phonetic series is based loosely on southwestern Mandarin[2], but prioritizes creating a more regular sound system over perfect alignment with Chinese pronunciation. This results in a theoretical pronunciation for every Shidinn character.
Shidinn Alphabet
| Closest Unicode Equivalent | Name | Possible name meaning | Transliteration | IPA | Encoding on xdi8.top [3] | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ㄛ b | ㄛɤ-b | white | b | /p/ | b | |
| P p | Sɛ-p | corpse | p | /pʰ/ | p | |
| M m | J৪-m | towel | m | /m/ | m | |
| W w | Sə-w | mountain | w | /ʋ/ | w | |
| J j | Di৪-j | ding | j | /t͡ɕ/ | j | |
| Q q | Zɜ-q | middle | ch | /t͡ɕʰ/ | q | |
| X x | Lɛ-x | power | sh | /ɕ/ | x | |
| Y y | Yɑ-yɛ | ya | y | /j/ | y | |
| Г n | Jɛ-n | several | ny | /ɲ/ | n | |
| Z z | Zɛ-z | of | tz | /t͡s/ | z | |
| ㄜ ƾ | ㄜɤ-ƾ | cai | ts | /t͡sʰ/ | D | |
| S s | Xө-s | township | s | /s/ | s | |
| R r | ㄜɛ-r | foot | r | /ɹ/ | r | |
| Ꮀ ㅏ | ㄛo-ㅏ | "BU" | z, nz | possibly [nz~nǀ] word inital & /z/ final | H | |
| ᛋ ꝇ | Wᵾ-ꝇ | wu | ng | /ŋ/ | N | |
| L l | Yɛ-l | 2nd | n, l | /n/ | l | |
| D d | Dλ-d | knife | d | /t/ | d | |
| T t | Qɛ-t | 7 | t | /tʰ/ | t | |
| G g | Mɑ-g | horse | g | /k/ | g | |
| K k | Fə-k | reverse | k | /kʰ/ | k | |
| H h | Jꮾ--h | 9 | kh, h | /x/ | h | |
| 4 ꜭ | Qə-ꜭ | thousand | gh | /j̈/ | 4 | |
| ᛋ ꝇ | Xɛ-ꝇ | evening | ngu | /ŋʷ/ | 5 | |
| V v | Jꮾ-v | (unknown) | nu, lu | /nʷ/ | v | |
| ヲ[4] ꜰ | Zɛ-ꜰ | son | du | /tʷ/ | F | |
| ᒣ г | Dər৪-г | Qian('er) | tu | /tʷʰ/ | 7 | |
| B ʙ | Wə-ʙ | 10,000 | gu | /kʷ/ | B | |
| C c | Wө-c | death | ku | /kʷʰ/ | c | |
| F f | Xɑ-f | down | f | /f/ | f | |
| U u | Wᵾ-u | noon | u | /ʷ/[5], [u̯], [y̯] | u | |
| A ɑ | A-dɑ | big | a | /a/ | a | |
| O o | O-kꮾ | mouth | o | /o/ | o | |
| 巳 e | 巳-sɛ | si | e | /e/ | e | |
| E ɛ | E-yλ | youngest | i, yi | /i/[6] | E | |
| Ɐ ᵾ | Ɐ-nᵾ | female | u, yu | /u/[7], [y] in final position | A | |
| Ɣ ɤ | Ɣ-nə | 20 | ai | /æa/ | Y | Might be evolved from ᛠ. |
| Ⲗ λ | λ-rᵾ | enter | au | /ɐo/ | L | |
| 6 ꮾ | 6-sɛ | si | ou | /əʊ/ | 6 | |
| Ƌ ə | Ƌ-yꮾ | again | aenn | /æ̃/ | 2 | |
| Ɵ ө | Ɵ-rɛ | day | ann | /ɐ̃/ | T | |
| ꓭ ৪ | ꓭ-yue | moon | enn | /ẽɨ̃/ | 8 | |
| Ǝ ɜ | Ǝ-liλ | "got it" | onn | /ə̃ʊ̃/ | 3 | |
| Ⲗ ʎ | Ⲗ-r৪ | people | ei | /eɪ/ | V | |
| 1 ı | 1-yɛ | 1 | ir | /ɯ/ | 1 | |
| I i | Gɜ-i | work | i | /i̯/[8], [i] in name | i |
Deprecated
| Closest Unicode Equivalent | Name | Possible name meaning | Transliteration | IPA | Notes | Encoding on xdi8.top |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ị ı̣ | Sө-ı̣, Sө-tı | superior | (unknown) | /ɰ/, [ɯ] in name | ![9] | |
| ¿ | Wᵾ-¿ | wu | ng | /ŋ/ | Historical equivalent to ᛋ | |
| 5 ƽ | Z巾-ƽ | Qian('er) | du | /tʷ/ | Historical equivalent to ヲ | |
| لو | (unknown) | if | (unknown) | The manuscript fragments around 2007 still have letters that are very different from the existing Xiding alphabet, including many glyphs similar to لو. | ||
| 尤 | 夕o-尤 | you? | nz, z | possibly [nz~nǀ] word inital & /z/ final | Ꮀ is "You" in the manuscript, which is consistent with the "Interview Draft". | |
| 夕 | 夕ɤ-夕 | evening | b | /p/ | Historical equivalent of ㄛ | |
| 门 | 卜৪-门 | door | m | /m/ | Historical equivalent of M | |
| 乂 | L巾-乂 | (unknown) | sh | /ɕ/ | Historical equivalent of X | |
| 牛 | 牛ɑ-牛巾 | ox | y | /j/ | Historical equivalent of Y | |
| 卜 | 牛巾-卜 | predict | n, l | /n/ | Historical equivalent of L | |
| 口 | 口λ-口 | mouth | d | /t/ | Historical equivalent of D | |
| 兀, 上 | 乂巾-兀, 乂ɛ-上 | wu, superior | ngu | /ŋʷ/ | Historical equivalent of ᛋ | |
| 白, 及 | Wə-白, Wə-及 | white, and | gu | /kʷ/ | Historical equivalent of B | |
| 日 θ | 日-kꮾ | day | o | /o/ | Historical equivalent of O |
Not in the alphabet, but used as a letter
| Closest Unicode Equivalent | Name | Possible name meaning | Transliteration | IPA |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ', - | (unknown) | possibly ' | possibly /ʔ/ |
Current Status
Shidinn remains an incomplete language. While the phonology and vocabulary are established, grammar is largely missing. Huáng reportedly developed a grammar system, but has lost most of his manuscripts. Subsequent Shidinn texts by Huáng are essentially transliterations of Chinese.
Several Shidinn communities have emerged online[10][11] , with some members attempting to adapt Huáng's phonology to newly created grammar systems. Poetry of all types that have been written in Shidinn have formed a distinct culture for the language.[12] Linguistics have added on to Shidinn by creating many dialects[13], e.g. Common Shidinn, Standard Shidinn, and Shidio-Zhiyuanian. Technology related to Shidinn have also been created, such as fonts and translators. [14]
Further Research
Due to the lack of a finalized grammar and the obscurity of the language, further research is needed to fully understand Shidinn's capabilities and potential as a constructed language.
References
- ^ [1], The Shidinn alphabet (Shidinn：Xdi8 aho fꮀת mᴜ̵) which is a full-phoneme text commonly used in Shidinn language and various dialects. There are 45 standard Shidinn letters, invented by Huang Quefei, 此外社区也提出扩充字母和希吕字母.
- ^ "Shidinn alphabet - 希顶维基".
- ^ [2], z D s r H j q x y n b p m d t l g k h 4 N F 7 v B c f w 5
- ^ [3], ヲ，这个希顶字母，我一直等了20多年，她发音du，犹如病毒一样缠绕着我，我思索，等待，遥望很久，用了无数的符号，总无法让我心里完美，一直到去年，我得了重大疾病，差点死去，在死神镰刀的切割下，我淡然一笑，毒，解放了，ヲ出现了，F的反写，却完美出现了，因为所有的手机特殊符号无法打出来，只有用这个ヲ代写，实际和ヲ也有差别，在我病重里，我濒危的这个du字母降临，给我希顶最后一个符号，完美的诠释了，成功了，却是用身体折磨，生命换来的，一切都是神奇天注定，我笑了。美丽最后一杯du酒，喝了永远醉。.
- ^ [4], 在声母j、q、x、y、n、ᶉ、ɑ`后的发音为/y̯/. 要想在这些声母后发原本的/u̯/介音, 需要在声母和u之间加一个分隔符, 如jua为/t͡ɕy̯a/, j'ua为/t͡ɕu̯a/. 详见希顶标点中分隔符的用法.
- ^ [5], 在声母z、ƾ、s、r、ㅏ、ͱ、ທ后的发音为/ɹ̩/, 在声母ʒ、♁、ʃ、я、þ̵、ʀ、ѫ后的发音为/ɻ̩/. 后的发音为/ɻ̩/. 要想在这些声母后发原本的/i/音, 需要在声母和E之间加一个分隔符, 如zE为/t͡sɹ̩/, z'E为/t͡si/. 详见希顶标点中分隔符的用法.
- ^ [6], 在声母j、q、x、y、n、ᶉ、ɑ`后的发音为/y̯/. 要想在这些声母后发原本的/u̯/介音, 需要在声母和u之间加一个分隔符, 如jua为/t͡ɕy̯a/, j'ua为/t͡ɕu̯a/. 详见希顶标点中分隔符的用法.
- ^ [7], 在声母z、ƾ、s、r、ㅏ、ͱ、ທ后的发音为/ɹ̩/, 在声母ʒ、♁、ʃ、я、þ̵、ʀ、ѫ后的发音为/ɻ̩/. 后的发音为/ɻ̩/. 要想在这些声母后发原本的/i/音, 需要在声母和E之间加一个分隔符, 如zE为/t͡sɹ̩/, z'E为/t͡si/. 详见希顶标点中分隔符的用法.
- ^ [8], 希顶字母 !
- ^ [9], The subreddit about Shidinn, a constructed language made in Zhihu.
- ^ [10], Ꮀᏺhꮾ rᴜ̵ j8 mioɛyuꮾꮀ xꝇᏺho, wo piəꮀ sɛ wᏺoꝇᏺ de ʙɵ.
- ^ [11], Lantern riddles, prose, poetry, novels and songs written in the language have formed a distinctive Shidinn culture.
- ^ [12], Linguistic enthusiasts have added bricks to the Shidinn edifice by inventing many Shidinn dialects.
- ^ [13], Technologies related to the language have also been developed, such as computer fonts, translators, input methods and operating systems. Although no sovereign state has yet granted official status to the language, academic research on the Shidinn language is ongoing.
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